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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Avaiojet on December 01, 2011, 08:02:45 PM
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In all honesty, I have this thing for British stuff. Maybe I'm drawn to their Flag as art, possibly, because I've used it plenty. I also ran a Morgan Plus4 for 30 years! British enough?
Anyway, I hate to dig out all my Aeromodeller's of yesteryear's, because the first one I looked at had a photo of the All American. April 1990, page 201.
Plus, what I'm looking for won't be there.
British CL Forum. British CL Clubs.
Any British CL enthusiasts out there?
CB
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http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
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Try:
www.fuelsoaked.me.uk/index.html
http://www.the.elmores.btinternet.co.uk/telmore.html
http://www.the.elmores.btinternet.co.uk/articles/_cat001.html
http://www.iroquois.free-online.co.uk/cl.htm
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All great sites. Don't let the British know he's coming. They already know about me. Have quite a few of the short kits from the UK Bay site. H^^
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Yes !
One of the best control line sites on the web is the Barton Forum. Just Google it and you should find it no problem. Be warned that this is not just a Stunt Forum. It covers every control line discipline, plus old time stuff and lot lots more!
Note I said "one of the best" so I am not being rude to Stunthanger! You might even recognise some "in cognito" US flyers lurking around too!
Regards,
Andrew
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Yes,
Possibly second best.
CB
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The Brit Taurus is one of my favorite planes. Designed by John Coasby in the 40's, it is a fun plane to build and fly. I have had several engines in it, and it has had an Anderson Spitfire in it for quite some time.
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Jim,
WOW! Spark driven!! ELASTICS!!
You old timmer you.
Got any other spark stuff? Photos?
Thanks for that.
CB
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Oh Yeah! I love flying sparkers, and fly them about as much as I do my glo stuff. Just to much fun. This is my Humongous with a Spitfire, and my stripped down Super Zilch with a Super Cyclone. The Zilch now has an Atwood 63 Super Champion on it.
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Jim,
Did you build these models?
Probably purchased the sparkies new.
Nice "ring."
What elae ya got!
CB
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I build almost all of my models from plans. All are covered with either silk or silkspan, and finished with brushed on dope. Kinda like doing it the old way. LOL. I have acquired most of my old engines off of e-bay over the last 15 years, and bought a few from friends. I also fly a few old time free flights with radios and spark motors, mostly just for fun when I'm not flying control line. After flying R/C Pattern competition for 25 years, I really enjoy the old stuff. One more picture of my other Humongous with a Spitfire.
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I could fill up this section with pictures of my spark ignition planes. Maybe I have from time to time.
p.s. My own Taurus wasn't a barn-burner. I found it to be squirrely in the wind.
Floyd
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Floyd; Mine doesn't do to well in the wind either even though it is a little on the heavy side. But in a light breeze it fly's so slow that you just guide it around where you want it to go. I do fly it a lot in 15 to 18 mph winds, but I don't do vertical 8's and overhead 8's. I do crank up the power on the Anderson when it is windy. I run the timer up one more notch, and lean the needle into a wet 2. Rusty Brown had a light one with a Fox 59 that he use to fly in PA. It did a pretty good job with Rusty at the handle. In gusty wind I have seen the top of the wing a few times, but it always straightens itself out. I have flown it quite a bit over the last 10 or 12 years, and it has not been repaired yet.
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Some of the UK planes are neat! I'm building a model called the SPECTRE. Sharp looking old time flare with open cockpit.---LOUIE H^^ D>K
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Mine is the Peacemaker which is still waiting for me to get some ether. The other is the Thunderbolt which I am finally getting some flying done with it. Both from the short kits on the UK Ebay site. Heve a bunch more still in the packages to build. H^^
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No photos of the Eifflaender Freebird yet?
Here's one I found on a German site.
Plans are available at least from PAW ( http://www.eifflaender.com/modeller.htm ) and myhobbystore ( http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/15465/am1520-freebird-plans ).
Obviously, it should be run with a .35 PAW diesel...
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Some of the UK planes are neat! I'm building a model called the SPECTRE. Sharp looking old time flare with open cockpit.---LOUIE H^^ D>K
Here's a couple of shots of mine. About 42" span, 23 oz, and powered by a PAW 19TBR. Apart from having a certain vintage charm, it's a lovely model to fly and very capable.
Steve
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Steve,
Nice!
The Octopus? 007?
CB
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Beautiful plane Steve. Great colors and trim scheme.
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The Octopus? 007?
Yeah, just a shame I couldn't find a little bald fella with a white cat to stick in the cockpit!
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Steve,
Ya got that graphic flat? I could scan it and send you some vinyl stickers. Is it on line?
CB
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Thanks Charles, the graphic actually started out as a .bmp - I usually just mess around a bit on the computer and make myself a couple of waterslide decals. Not a patch on your vinyl stuff I'm sure, but good enough at my level of modelling. Will attach a jpg, which you're welcome to use as you see fit. (The .bmp is probably better, but it's over 1Mb).
Cheers
Steve
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Steve, Nice job. Love the open cockpit. I hope mine turns out as good. Thanks ofr the pic's.---LOUIE H^^ D>K
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Steve, Not to be a kit basher but what would you think of wing mounted landing gear on the Spectre?--LOUIE #^ D>K
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G'day Louie,
You could certainly go down that path if you wanted, although you'd have to bear in mind that the spars are pretty slender and some beefing-up of the centre section might be warranted. What would still look pretty sharp, and would be an awful lot simpler to do, would be to keep the fuselage-mounted gear but put spats and strut covers on it. Very easily done, and well worth the trouble (which has me wondering why I didn't do it myself?!).
Cheers
Steve
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Howdy Steve, You are right that would look good and make things easier also. Cheers!---LOUIE
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No photos of the Eifflaender Freebird yet?
Here's one I found on a German site.
Plans are available at least from PAW ( http://www.eifflaender.com/modeller.htm ) and myhobbystore ( http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/15465/am1520-freebird-plans ).
Obviously, it should be run with a .35 PAW diesel...
This is mine
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That is one good looking model(the plane). The British and Australians do have a way with designs that is different in a way I can't explain. H^^
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... Australians do have a way with designs that is different in a way I can't explain. H^^
That reminds me:
I just saw a 60s Aussie design called Angelique on the Barton Club forum.
http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7084 (http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7084)
The file is too large to post in most places and, for some reason, my only SW that can edit PDF files refuses to open it.
Maybe a couple of pictures I found ...
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That reminds me:
I just saw a 60s Aussie design called Angelique on the Barton Club forum.
http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7084 (http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7084)
The file is too large to post in most places and, for some reason, my only SW that can edit PDF files refuses to open it.
Maybe a couple of pictures I found ...
Go here and click on the plan pic to download and save the full PDF of the Angelique. Adobe Reader opens without any problems.
http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7084
HH
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Go here and click on the plan pic to download and save the full PDF of the Angelique. Adobe Reader opens without any problems.
http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7084
HH
Yes, I have that file. My computer doesn't usually struggle with files of that size, or twice as big, but it does struggle with this one.
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The file that was on the Barton site I down loaded some time back. Very nice looking design. H^^
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You can check out my post of Pete Tindal on 4 stroke forum.
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Any of you guys know how to get a hold of Graham Swallow ? I do belive he's across the Pond? Not sure.
I do know he builds a great wing, which is what I'd like to talk to him about.
Here's his work.
CB
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gswallow@global.co.za
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South African. I think I have pictures of his wings...
I understood you make it out of square ribs and sand to airfoil, unless you are handy with CAD and laser cutting.
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South African. I think I have pictures of his wings...
I understood you make it out of square ribs and sand to airfoil, unless you are handy with CAD and laser cutting.
PM,
Yes, that's exactly what I had in mind. Sand with templates. Interlocking rectangles, laser cut.
Nice model!
Cb
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gswallow@global.co.za
John,
I dn't thing that E address is working?
Graham can save me a lot of work. He already perfected the construction and design.
CB
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Here's what I'm working on - the Icarus Jr by John Coasby.
As many of you know, I like to fly something different.
For the photos, the plane is held together with tape and pins.
Weight as shown is 18 ounces.
Power is the ETA 29 as shown on the original plans.
Has anyone ever flown or even seen one of these?
OTS legal of course.
Bob Z.
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Robert,
Great design and it looks like you have your building under control.
What year was the model first designed?
Is this an over the Pond model, or was it popular in the US also.
I like it a lot!!
CB
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Hi, CB.
Never saw or heard of the Icarus Jr till recenly. A fellow from England was working for me and he sent me the plans.
The plans show the ETA 29 and I found a brand-new one in my "stuff" so that's what will fly the model.
The plans state 1952 but I'm not sure when it was designed.
Bob Z.
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Small pic from internet of nice "Freebird". I have more recent plans, which show bubble canopy, slightly different outer rib structure and not such a pleasing fuselage shape. It seems like a good concept though.
Edit: My plans also show side mounted engine.
SK
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OOPS!... Sorry Charles, I should have checked it first.
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Small pic from internet of nice "Freebird". I have more recent plans, which show bubble canopy, slightly different outer rib structure and not such a pleasing fuselage shape. It seems like a good concept though.
Edit: My plans also show side mounted engine.SK
Serge,
Will you be building the Freebird? Looks light! Do you know the span.
Palmer Thunderbird wing? Kinda.
CB
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There is a larger Icarus. Rusty Brown built one. I understand that no two ribs are the same.
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There is a larger Icarus. Rusty Brown built one. I understand that no two ribs are the same.
Jim,
The same on each side. I will be building a wing like this. Every rib is different, except there's two of each. ;D
CB