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Title: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on May 05, 2021, 07:09:52 AM
As some of you know, I am composing a book documenting the Brodak Fly-In.

The text will include chapters on various subjects including general information, history, couples, music, crazy events, sad days, workshops, outstanding Fly-In attendees, father/son teams, clubs, hobby shop information, banquet, manufacturing facility tours, lodging, food, museum and preparation for the Fly-In.

There will be some selected photos interspersed in the text and included with the book will be a CD with around one thousand photos from every Fly-In. Many of you will see yourselves in the photos.

I am trying to get a feel for what kind on interest this type of publication will have to the general CL community.

I estimate the cost to be around $25.00 for the book and CD.  An SDHC card will be available for a slight extra charge.
Profits, if any, will go to the museum fund.

Feel free to post or e-mail me with any questions.

Since the initial financial burden will be mine, I really need to get an idea of how many people would be interested.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Roger Vizioli on May 05, 2021, 08:47:42 AM
Hi Bob,
I'll start it- I am interested.Talk soon.
Roger V.



Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: De Hill on May 05, 2021, 09:09:52 AM
I'm in.
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Post by: Steve Berry on May 05, 2021, 09:10:26 AM
I'm in.

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Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Roy DeCamara on May 05, 2021, 09:50:43 AM
I would like one.  Hope it isn't like Winn Paul's because I don't think I have enough years left to get that one.  Just a heads up.  Thanks for your efforts Bob.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: John Paris on May 05, 2021, 10:27:34 AM
Bob,
I would be interested.
John
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Gordon Van Tighem on May 05, 2021, 10:36:34 AM
Interested, so I’ll take a copy.
G
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Post by: Tony Drago on May 05, 2021, 11:11:23 AM
I'm In...
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Post by: Joe Gilbert on May 05, 2021, 11:21:18 AM
Yes I am in
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Post by: John Tate on May 05, 2021, 11:33:19 AM
I am in.
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Post by: Ed Carlaw on May 05, 2021, 12:01:10 PM
Hi Bob, count me in. Ed.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Mark Mc on May 05, 2021, 12:21:37 PM
Me, too.
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Post by: john e. holliday on May 05, 2021, 12:58:47 PM
Count the old DOC as I missed a lot.  Only made it one year. H^^
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: jfv on May 05, 2021, 01:54:56 PM
I'm in for sure.
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Post by: Paul Wescott on May 05, 2021, 03:54:55 PM
Mr. Z - If you post or PM a PayPal address I’ll send you my $25 now.

Thanks...

Paul W.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 05, 2021, 07:56:55 PM
Sign me up
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Post by: Leonard Bourel on May 05, 2021, 08:29:30 PM
Hi Bob Naomi and I are in for sure Thanks Len
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Post by: bob whitney on May 05, 2021, 09:03:10 PM
add me also
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Post by: Mike Danford on May 05, 2021, 09:08:30 PM
Me three.
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Post by: Carl Cisneros on May 05, 2021, 10:13:39 PM
count me in.

Carl Cisneros
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on May 06, 2021, 05:13:31 AM
IN
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Post by: Fredvon4 on May 06, 2021, 05:49:06 AM
I would buy 1
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Dalton Hammett on May 06, 2021, 08:08:42 AM
Hi Bob

   I would definately like to have one.
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Post by: Joe Bowman on May 06, 2021, 10:29:41 AM
I'm in.
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Post by: Tom Taylor on May 06, 2021, 12:32:10 PM
I'm in y1
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Warren Wagner on May 06, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
Bob,

Sounds good....I'll take one.

Warren Wagner
Clay, NY
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Whitley on May 06, 2021, 10:55:44 PM
I’m in.
Thanks for doing this.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Allen Goff on May 07, 2021, 06:23:37 AM
Bob, very interested, I’m in.
Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: George Waters on May 07, 2021, 04:24:00 PM
Bob Put me down for one. George
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Post by: John Miller on May 08, 2021, 10:11:06 AM
Count me in also.

John Miller
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Ted Fancher on May 08, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
You bet, Robert.  Never got there myself but read about it annually with great interest.  John's legacy for CLPA will, in so many ways, live on..in part as a result of your efforts.

Ted Fancher
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Phil Spillman on May 09, 2021, 07:47:51 PM
Hi Bob, I am thrilled to hear that this effort will be coming to fruition! Count me in for sure!

Phil Spillman
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: peabody on May 10, 2021, 06:59:49 AM
Hey Zman....great work!

I'll have a couple when ready....
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Brad Smith on May 10, 2021, 09:52:44 AM
I would like a book too
Thanks
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: john e. holliday on May 10, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
Seeing this and the number of replies,  is this going to be in house publication at the Brodak print shop?  Also is $25.00 going to be enough? D>K
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on May 10, 2021, 03:08:37 PM
Unfortunately, the Brodak print shop no longer exists.   :'(  :'(

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Alan Buck on May 11, 2021, 07:00:57 PM
Diane &  I would like one
    thanks  you  Bob   
     Alan Buck
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on May 19, 2021, 06:27:30 PM
Thanks to all of you who responded with enthusiasm to acquire the book.
Unfortunately, things are not looking all that well at this point.
I'm more than a bit disappointed at how few responses I received from the Northeast, in particular the Philadelphia area - NONE.
I'm assuming (and hoping) that a substantial number of people who do not subscribe to Stunt Hanger will be interested.

But, I will persevere. I will be meeting with a publisher in Charleston next week to discuss out-the-door pricing for the published book as well as minimum quantity required.
Right now, I'm looking at a softbound 5 1/2 by 4 1/4 format. I will of course entertain suggestions from the publisher.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: De Hill on June 01, 2021, 02:41:11 PM
Bob,

I hope you get the book published.

It will be  a permanent record of one of the greatest contests ever held.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: the original Steve Smith on June 02, 2021, 10:20:21 PM
Bob,

I was not able to attend before John's passing.  I have eagerly read reports in Stunt News and Flying Models on the events through the years.  If you have anything to add to what has already been published I would definitely be interested in such a book!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Ty Marcucci on June 02, 2021, 10:44:05 PM
Bob, I need to change my order from one to three. Thanks, Ty M> H^^
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 03, 2021, 06:47:08 AM
Gentlemen - As I stated before, thank you for all the positive feedback and interest in the book.

I will be meeting with a publisher in Charleston, SC on June 8, to discuss the nuances of getting the book into print. I'm sure they require a minimum order so I will probably go with that. It may, in fact, be the only printing.

I did mention my disappointment with the lack of response from many of the  Fly-In attendees, especially those from the biggest club in northeast Philadelphia (zero responses).
I even called a number of people who do not frequent Stunt Hanger, asking if they might be interested - they did not return my calls so I guess no interest.

So far, around 40 people have responded.

In any case, I will do all I can to deliver an informative and interesting publication along with a CD containing many photos.

THANKS again, Bob Z.









Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Gerald Arana on June 03, 2021, 07:43:23 AM
Bob, count me in too.

Jerry
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Elwyn Aud on June 03, 2021, 04:49:44 PM
In
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Skip Chernoff on June 10, 2021, 01:32:25 PM
Bob I for one would be interested in the book and will order one should it come to fruition. I see that you pulled no punches and called out the Philly Fliers for not participating in this venture. As most here know, for ALL of the time that the Brodaks meet was on, the Philly Fliers were a fixture there and most of the time had more representation than any other group attending. That's fact. So why would a wonderful group of enthusiastic,helpful,fun guys not "buy into" your book? Only you can answer that. PhillySkip
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 10, 2021, 02:23:59 PM
Skip - you made my day!! THANKS.

However I cannot understand your quote "So why would a wonderful group of enthusiastic,helpful,fun guys not "buy into" your book? Only you can answer that."
Actually, no, I cannot answer it - I have no idea what you're implying.

For those still interested, I will meet with the publisher tomorrow in Charleston (ANY excuse to visit Charleston - my favorite city!).
After looking at the manuscript, they can tell me lead time, cost and minimum quantity required for production.
So far, around 45 people have expressed interest.
Hopefully, that number will increase, as I will have to front the publishing cost out of pocket.

In any case, the book is quite nearly done but I still welcome any photos that you might have for me to include, either in the main text or in the CD.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Elwyn Aud on June 10, 2021, 02:34:54 PM
Maybe some fly-in enthusiasts just don't spend a lot of time on the C/L forums.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: BillP on June 10, 2021, 03:59:03 PM
Just saw this for the first time...I'm in.
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Post by: denny thomas on June 11, 2021, 06:24:31 AM
BOB, I WILL TAKE ONE. THANKS
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 11, 2021, 07:12:36 AM
OK, Denny - you and your Wife are part of the "Couples" chapter.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Matt Colan on June 11, 2021, 07:38:17 AM
I’m in
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: De Hill on June 11, 2021, 08:53:46 AM
If you have the faintest interest in the Brodak Meet, I would suggest that you buy this book.
Usually, a book like this is published, all copies are sold, and a short time later, people want the book... but no extra copies can be had.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 11, 2021, 09:04:08 AM
HOW TRUE!!!!!

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: M Shipman on June 14, 2021, 02:21:39 PM
Bob,
Put me down for one.
Mike S.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: john e. holliday on June 15, 2021, 10:45:31 AM
Do we pay for the book now or make a down payment?  Also can we use PayPal? ???
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: De Hill on June 15, 2021, 11:08:30 AM
Hi Bob,

Make that 3copies of the Brodak Book for me.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 15, 2021, 12:24:34 PM
OK, met with the publisher and things are looking good.

The cost should be below $25.00 per copy which includes the assortment of photos. Lead time around 3 weeks, depending on their backlog.

Regarding the photos, I have decided to put them on a flash drive instead of a CD – much more room and of course, compact. There will be a number of folders on the flash drive to isolate some of the more numerous items, like Junkyard Wars and T-Shirts.

US shipping will be by priority mail (around $8.00) or first class (around $5.00). Out-of-country depends on the “ship to” location.
I have had around 50 positive responses and since the minimum order is 75, unless I receive at least 25 more responses, I will order 75. I truly hope that more people respond so that I can order 100 copies.
 
I do not anticipate an additional order.

I will also donate copies to the wonderful people in Carmichaels who worked so hard to make the Fly-In a reality.
When ready for delivery, I will post on Stunthanger and require a prepayment.
I prefer a personal check as opposed to Pay-Pal.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Tom Taylor on June 16, 2021, 11:51:24 AM
Bob, I will take 2 copies
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Post by: John McFayden on June 16, 2021, 03:03:28 PM
Hi Bob,

I will take a copy.

John McFayden
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Mike Bush on June 17, 2021, 10:18:00 AM
Bob,
I will purchase one when they are ready
Mike
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Post by: dale gleason on June 17, 2021, 12:19:30 PM
A copy for the Gleasons, dale and Linda, please.
Thank you, Robert
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: john e. holliday on June 17, 2021, 10:07:43 PM
Robert, double the old mans order to two books.  I have a friend I will give a copy to. D>K
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Fredvon4 on June 18, 2021, 05:48:27 AM
me too "Robert, double the old mans order to two books.  I have a friend I will give a copy to"
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Steve Berry on June 18, 2021, 08:56:38 AM
Same. Up mine from 1 to 2 copies, please.

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Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 18, 2021, 09:56:07 AM
Thanks to all!
I now have orders for around 65 books.
If it gets to 75 before I commit to the publisher, I will increase my order to 100.
I'm very busy with the photos - turns out, I have over 4000 to edit and categorize.

So for, the different categories are:

Just people
Engines
Pets
Planes
Planes and people
T-Shirts
Stuff (kind of a catch-all for photos not fitting a particular category)
Junkyard Wars

I'm really putting some serious time into this effort.
Hope it pleases!

Bob Z.





Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: jfv on June 18, 2021, 07:24:52 PM
I can really appreciate the effort involved as I had a book on skiing published.  Took 4 years to get it finalized.  Don't want to count the hours spent.  However, when it was finally finished, I would do it all over again.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: RC Storick on June 18, 2021, 07:44:50 PM
I’ll take one


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Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Roger Vizioli on June 19, 2021, 09:40:01 PM
Hi Bob,
     Bring my order total up to three!

Delete this post, see next post. HB~>

Roger.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Roger Vizioli on June 19, 2021, 09:41:16 PM
Hi Bob,

Bring my total up to three!
Thx,
Roger V.

Ooops, double post. Does not mean six total, three is Great!
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Joseph Patterson on June 20, 2021, 10:10:51 AM
     Bob put me down for 2. I hope the response picks up. I appreciate the great effort you've made!
           Doug
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: David Russum on June 21, 2021, 05:48:53 PM
I will take 1 copy.
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Post by: Bob Hudak on June 25, 2021, 08:39:22 AM
I'll take a book of the Brodak Fly In.
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Post by: Elwyn Aud on June 28, 2021, 03:20:19 PM

"Regarding the photos, I have decided to put them on a flash drive instead of a CD – much more room and of course, compact. There will be a number of folders on the flash drive to isolate some of the more numerous items, like Junkyard Wars and T-Shirts."

Good idea. I've had photos on a CD that eventually the computer couldn't open for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Art Jessup on June 29, 2021, 11:51:27 AM
Hi Bob, I would like a book also.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Robert Zambelli on June 29, 2021, 01:13:04 PM
OK, Thanks again for all the positive responses.
Between Stunt Hanger and a few private calls, I received around 70 positive responses.
The names are all written down and these people will, of course, be guaranteed a book and thumb drive.

If all goes as planned, the first draft will go to the publisher in a few weeks.
I will probably order 100 copies and hope that I can sell the rest.
When the copies are in my hand, I will announce here on Stunt Hanger and checks can be mailed to me.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Tom Taylor on July 01, 2021, 12:56:47 PM
Thanks Bob, for taking this adventure on!!!!
Title: Re: Book on the Brodak Fly-In
Post by: Alan Hayes on July 01, 2021, 07:35:22 PM
I will buy one....