Bay Area stunt flyers ?

[Kevin M. Smith]

Is there any stunt flying going on in the SF Bay Area ?  Is there a local field still active ?

[Larry Fernandez]

There are a few of us that fly at Gilroy High School in Gilroy.
Every now and then I have twisted Bretts arm to get him down here.

We suck but we do have fun.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

[Kevin M. Smith]

I was hoping for San Jose Area. I know there used to be some circles near redwood shores but they are long gone I think .

[Balsa Butcher]

Bill Osborne field in Alameda is active on the weekends. It is next to the Oakland Airport. 

[BYU]

The Gilroy field is less than 30 mins from San Jose, I can recommend them as friendly if irreverent bunch, ask nicely and they will keep you in the email loop of when they are flying. (I obviously didnt ask nicely) ooh and don't mention monocote to Larry, it makes him shake uncontrollably and turn green.

[Mike Scholtes]

Aside from 20 or so Nats Open wins, at least one world championship win, multiple front-row 20 point models, concours winners at the Nats, and a full contest season, no, not much stunt going on in the Bay Area.

Do you live in the Bay Area now or just contemplating a move? If already here, where? I live about a mile from the Alameda field and can brief you on how to find it. City park dedicated to CL flying only.

Aside from Gilroy (which tends to be an unmowed high school grass field) and Alameda (paved circle) there is a beautiful paved circle at Napa. If you are San Jose based that is a bit of a drive, but there is normally a contest there in October that is very worth making the trip.

[Larry Fernandez]

I also live in San Jose.
Give me a call so we can get together and do some flying

(408) 227-1693

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

[BYU]

I also live in San Jose.
Give me a call so we can get together and do some flying

(408) 227-1693

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

If you get to fly with Larry, be forewarned, your pattern will improve immensely and if you let him loose with his exacto, the trim of your plane will be improved also.

[Brett Buck]

If you get to fly with Larry, be forewarned, your pattern will improve immensely and if you let him loose with his exacto, the trim of your plane will be improved also.

   Forget Exacto knives and trim adjustments, how is Kevin's throwing arm?  I am surprised at you guys, missing the stunningly obvious like that.

    Brett

[Larry Fernandez]

   Forget Exacto knives and trim adjustments, how is Kevin's throwing arm?  I am surprised at you guys, missing the stunningly obvious like that.

    Brett

Sorry Brett I was kinda keeping this under wraps until I got a feel for his athletism.
I know it sounds like something Dave would do, but if I had the impression he could "out-hurl" me, I would keep Kevin in the dark about the event.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

[BYU]

   Forget Exacto knives and trim adjustments, how is Kevin's throwing arm?  I am surprised at you guys, missing the stunningly obvious like that.

    Brett

What? without the "Hurls" mandatory induction procedure and 72 hours of rules reading?

[Kevin M. Smith]

Aside from 20 or so Nats Open wins, at least one world championship win, multiple front-row 20 point models, concours winners at the Nats, and a full contest season, no, not much stunt going on in the Bay Area.

Do you live in the Bay Area now or just contemplating a move? If already here, where? I live about a mile from the Alameda field and can brief you on how to find it. City park dedicated to CL flying only.

Aside from Gilroy (which tends to be an unmowed high school grass field) and Alameda (paved circle) there is a beautiful paved circle at Napa. If you are San Jose based that is a bit of a drive, but there is normally a contest there in October that is very worth making the trip.

Hi Mike,  I currently live in the Bay area very close to downtown San Jose.  C/L flying was an obsession for me in the 70's when I was a teen but have not flown -any- C/L since. Built a pretty good hangar of various models at that time - mostly full-flap stunt.  Number of periods over the years where I became interested in model aviation again and got involved for about 10 years with R/C sailplanes - mainly slope.   I know quite a bit about C/L flying but my knowledge is dated :-) ... I have purchased in the last few years a Brodak Ares kit and Super Clown Electric (ARF).  They are waiting for me on the shelf if I choose to jump in again.  Never built or flown an Areas but always thought it was a masterpiece in terms of the design.

At any rate,  if there is a full-fledged control-line field with real circles in Alameda, I was thinking about driving over there this weekend to check it out.  Is there a chance some people might be flying there ?   Is sunday AM the best day ?  I doubt I could get the clown ready by then, but I'll see what I can do.

[Kevin M. Smith]

I also live in San Jose.
Give me a call so we can get together and do some flying

(408) 227-1693

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

thank you for offering that Larry... I'll give you a call, but I need to get a plane ready.  I have a super clown waiting for me (it is an ARF version).  I also have recently purchased an Brodak Ares, but I need to set up a shop before I start that one.  I probably wouldn't want to fly a plane like that anyway until I re-learn how to fly again.

[Larry Fernandez]

Hey Kevin, you wouldn't happen to live on Bangor Ave. would you?

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

[Brett Buck]

thank you for offering that Larry... I'll give you a call, but I need to get a plane ready.  I have a super clown waiting for me (it is an ARF version).  I also have recently purchased an Brodak Ares, but I need to set up a shop before I start that one.  I probably wouldn't want to fly a plane like that anyway until I re-learn how to fly again.

   We might be able to come up with an (semi-disposable) airplane for you to fly. I have one that I considered disposable when I first built it -almost 30 years ago.

    Brett

[Mike Scholtes]

Hi Kevin: The Alameda field is at intersection of Doolittle Drive and Harbor Bay Parkway near Oakland Airport. I suggest a Google Earth search for that location, or even Bill Osborne Model Field, Alameda CA. Or, I can tell you in non digital words how to find it.

The larger circle is an asphalt donut with concrete center pad and grass infield (dead until seasonal rains start again). The asphalt is cracked but serviceable for all but the most precious models. We are agitating to have the City repave the circle. City says the work is scheduled but no firm date has been provided. We are aware this is a pretty low priority for the City of Alameda.

Any Sunday morning with flyable weather there will be 3 or 4 serious pattern flyers there by 8 a.m. and often some sport flyers and combat guys. The field hosts carrier contests several times a year. If the runway is repaved we expect a return of many more flyers in the greater bay area. We only ask that you not show up and start telling us how great everything was in 1952 and that ignition engines are really better than all that newfangled stuff.

Oh, and no particular reason for this question, but how good are you at throwing a baseball, or a rock, or any small solid object you can hold in one hand? How many rotator cuff surgeries on the throwing arm? Just curious, no reason.

[Brett Buck]

Sorry Brett I was kinda keeping this under wraps until I got a feel for his athletism.
I know it sounds like something Dave would do, but if I had the impression he could "out-hurl" me, I would keep Kevin in the dark about the event.

      Rule 41 "Conduct Unbecoming an Official of The Hurl".

      You are supposed to be a role model! What about all the kids across the world who idolize you as a *4 Time Champion*? What about the as yet unborn children, who will now grow up in a world where integrity no longer exists?

     Brett

[Kevin M. Smith]

Hey Kevin, you wouldn't happen to live on Bangor Ave. would you?

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Hi Larry,  I live off of Lincoln Ave in Willow Glen area....

[Kevin M. Smith]

   We might be able to come up with an (semi-disposable) airplane for you to fly. I have one that I considered disposable when I first built it -almost 30 years ago.

    Brett

if someone has a ringmaster/flightstreak or equiv..   19-35 ready-to-fly...I'd be willing to buy it just to get started. I don't even have lines/handle, so I'd have to conjure up that as well. I'm sure there are no hobby shops around that sell "Pylon Brand" anymore :-)  (maybe there are ?)

[Ted Fancher]

Hmmmm.  Do I note Kevin getting just a bit hesitant about tossing (ooops, there's that word again) his lot into Larry's circle of casters?

Can I blame him?   hmmmmmm.

Ted

[Kevin M. Smith]

Hi Kevin: The Alameda field is at intersection of Doolittle Drive and Harbor Bay Parkway near Oakland Airport. I suggest a Google Earth search for that location, or even Bill Osborne Model Field, Alameda CA. Or, I can tell you in non digital words how to find it.

The larger circle is an asphalt donut with concrete center pad and grass infield (dead until seasonal rains start again). The asphalt is cracked but serviceable for all but the most precious models. We are agitating to have the City repave the circle. City says the work is scheduled but no firm date has been provided. We are aware this is a pretty low priority for the City of Alameda.

Any Sunday morning with flyable weather there will be 3 or 4 serious pattern flyers there by 8 a.m. and often some sport flyers and combat guys. The field hosts carrier contests several times a year. If the runway is repaved we expect a return of many more flyers in the greater bay area. We only ask that you not show up and start telling us how great everything was in 1952 and that ignition engines are really better than all that newfangled stuff.

Oh, and no particular reason for this question, but how good are you at throwing a baseball, or a rock, or any small solid object you can hold in one hand? How many rotator cuff surgeries on the throwing arm? Just curious, no reason.

Thanks Mike,  I think I will show up there this Sunday as a spectator..... My wife is going to be traveling down south to visit our daughter for the weekend - so its a good day for me.

[Larry Fernandez]

      Rule 41 "Conduct Unbecoming an Official of The Hurl".

      You are supposed to be a role model! What about all the kids across the world who idolize you as a *4 Time Champion*? What about the as yet unborn children, who will now grow up in a world where integrity no longer exists?

     Brett

You are absolutely right about this and I am so ashamed.
I recall the committees discussion about morals and ethics after Dave tried to pull a fast one with his proxy "Hurl". As commissioner I have to remind myself that I am to be held to a higher standard.
Thanks for calling me out on this.

Larry Buttafucco Stunt Team

[Fredvon4]

Larry you suck up!

The self appointed commissioner of rules committee has violated rule 41 at least 3 times in the past on various media and forums

I have set my Ham Radio gear to monitor and record any and all announcement-- or ---other pertinent info -from the Power That Be, relative to the (Fox 15) Hurl and any events leading up to the official event

The defacto (albeit self appointed)  keeper of the rules has overtly...perhaps even covertly... intimated several times in the past 5 years...all the various (Legal?) ways to limit participation

Some of the exclusionary tactics transmitted in the various broadcasts relate to location;  I seem to detect that there is a distinct bias against any "East of the Mississippi" entrants.

And a demand that any "remote Hurl" for competition be accompanied by no less that three official witnesses, all documentation be notarized.
But more ominous, scientific proof that the remote Hurl location was NOT outside to prescribed perimeters for air density, gravity, Coriolis effect, corrected for location, to within .0003% of the official sites condition for the time of the "Attempt"

On face this sound reasonable.... EXCEPT....the remote Hurler has no practical way of know the conditions at the Official site and is thus will be eliminated and the attempt deem Not Official

I also have inferred many parentage (or more precisely, country of origin) biases from the keeper.
Examples
 " but our CIAM rep has one vote just like Lower Slobbovia"
OR
"why French aviation buffs should be able to declare themselves the arbiters of international aviation (despite having contributed nothing of consequence to the development of fixed-wing aviation aside from being really enthusiastic about it) and later space (where they contributed exactly nothing, consequential or not)

NOTE I am on the same page as relates to Slovenians or the French....relative to the WC events

And more to the point...especially as relates to another American event-- we invented ---such as the infamous Fox 15 hurl

None the less, the bias it there, so I feel the Self appointed Commissioners chastisement of a member in good standing is  without merit and an apology is necessary

As always...relating to all things Fox 15 hurl upcoming annual competition...Keven must first find, read, and understand the Rules..

IMO if the committee would just be much more consistent with the CW/AM/FM and PSK broadcasts
I think there would be a much more diverse or perhaps more eclectic number of participants

[john e. holliday]

Kevin, too bad you don't live close to the old DOC Holliday.  I could have you flying almost immediately with a Ringmaster or a Sky Ray.   All I would ask is that you fly with me and Dave.  Of course with a grand daughter that thinks she owns my Suburban I have to know a head of time when to fly.

[Richard Walbridge]

thank you for offering that Larry... I'll give you a call, but I need to get a plane ready.  I have a super clown waiting for me (it is an ARF version).  I also have recently purchased an Brodak Ares, but I need to set up a shop before I start that one.  I probably wouldn't want to fly a plane like that anyway until I re-learn how to fly again.

Kevin...you need to ask Larry about his awesome monokote skills...

[BYU]

      Rule 41 "Conduct Unbecoming an Official of The Hurl".

      You are supposed to be a role model! What about all the kids across the world who idolize you as a *4 Time Champion*? What about the as yet unborn children, who will now grow up in a world where integrity no longer exists?

     Brett

Yes and what about the unborn parents of the unborn children who will grow up in a world where Evil Larry brought about the end of integrity.

[Paul Walker]

Kevin,

Make sure to have Larry show you his PT-19. It has a pretty fair Monocoat job!

Worth the look, and he can give you some tips on his ironing procedures.

[Kevin M. Smith]

Kevin, too bad you don't live close to the old DOC Holliday.  I could have you flying almost immediately with a Ringmaster or a Sky Ray.   All I would ask is that you fly with me and Dave.  Of course with a grand daughter that thinks she owns my Suburban I have to know a head of time when to fly.

Thank you very much for that invite.  As it turns out, we also have a new baby granddaughter that has me driving 400 miles every other weekend to see her (and it's worth it. )....     You're profile says you live in Kansas - That's pretty far from here :-).    Kansas is one state I have not visited and I do want to go there sometime.

[Kevin M. Smith]

Kevin,

Make sure to have Larry show you his PT-19. It has a pretty fair Monocoat job!

Worth the look, and he can give you some tips on his ironing procedures.

I definitely need some tips.  I have done a fair amount of MonoKote stuff in the past (C/L when I did it in 70's, sailplanes etc.) but honestly  I'm not very good at it. I never had a heat gun, so I think that is probably a good addition -. I often wonder how these guys get all the nice trim and color schemes - some amazing stuff.  I used to just stick with one color for the wings and another for the fuse.   

[Brett Buck]

I definitely need some tips.  I have done a fair amount of MonoKote stuff in the past (C/L when I did it in 70's, sailplanes etc.) but honestly  I'm not very good at it. I never had a heat gun, so I think that is probably a good addition -. I often wonder how these guys get all the nice trim and color schemes - some amazing stuff.  I used to just stick with one color for the wings and another for the fuse.

  They are already sucking you into their bizarre world! You have made a good impression, they must like you!

    Larry does not use monokote on any serious project, he is one of the best conventional (dope/silkspan) finishers in the stunt world. His original PT-19 may be the single finest model airplane I have ever seen, although I may not have seen the current one, which could be better.

     They give him grief because they are trying out for Larry's "Biggest Smart-Alecs in Stunt list. Paul Walker, while arguably the best stunt flier in the history of the event (although that other guy is making a pretty good case, too), barely makes the Top 10 in terms of the wise-guy list. And they have run the "Larry Fernandez 'Monocote Rite' class and associated comments completely into the ground. Leading to the former first-placer (one Mr. Eric Rule, owner/operator of RSM Distribution) to displaced from his former #1 ranking. Get a new writer, guys!  Paul has even intentionally used Monokote on a real airplane (as have I, as it turns out).

    Modesty forbids mentioning who replaced Eric at #1*. Of course, Larry has never spent much time around Bill Werwage, while also in the argument for the best ever and certainly the one with the most "mileage" on him, so he doesn't know that Werwage is also a world-class smart-ass even into his 70's.

  Now you might question why someone would bother to keep such a list, that is, someone not in an accredited mental health facility. I think when you meet him, you will quickly understand. Larry is also Commissioner of The Hurl, although the central Hurl committee is racing back to Hurl HQ for a vote of "no confidence" even as we speak.

  Hope that clears everything up.


Brett

* current list, to my knowledge (February 2017 with known updates)

 

• Brett Buck **##++ reached the top through a combination of prodigy-level natural skills, daily masters classes in smart-assery from his father, and relentless dedication to his craft for 56 years. All aided by suppressed rage and lack of social adjustment
• Eric Rule ++  Owner/Operator of RSM Distribution, one-trick pony in this context
• Antone Kephart ++  another one-trick pony but shows potential when he makes an appearance, routinely wears a hipster hat but without the irony
• Larry Renger **  ( probably doesn't even realize he is being a smart-ass, inventor of the front-engined boost glider and many hobby innovations)
• Dave Fitzgerald ** AKA "Wonder Boy" occasionally cracks off a good one, but with the subtlety and wit of a brick through a plate-glass window.
• Uncle Bob  **## AKA 'Bob's your Uncle", real identity unclear, man of mystery
• Uncle Jimby AKA Jim '20 point buns' Aron AKA "Trumpet Jimby" (another worthy competitor but without having perfected his craft like Howard and I, also producer/director of award-winning short subject "Leave it to Shareen"*1 that included extensive and largely gratuitous cross-dressing by a 4-times NATS champ, also star of an inexplicable German TV special*2, also recorded a children's record - I am not kidding!)
• Howard Rush **  (Ultimate deadpan snarker, to the point most people miss it completely -one of the few I consider a worthy competitor in this Top 10, charter member of the Jive Combat Team, recipient of endless marginally cruel jibes from Paul Walker including being called "Sheldon Cooper", once wore a clown suit all day at a combat contest - and he doesn't even meet the ++ criteria)
• Steve Helmick **## (has his moments, something to do with fish, we don't ask...)
• Paul Walker ** (A for effort, otherwise, need to learn to develop material, once painted an airplane flourescent yellow and fluorescent pink and then made people put it on a bunch of magazine covers)

   

** = frequent stunthangar poster
## = Gilroy regular
++ = dangerously psychotic/"interesting"/possibly senile

*1
*2

[Dane Martin]

Kevin,

Make sure to have Larry show you his PT-19. It has a pretty fair Monocoat job!

Worth the look, and he can give you some tips on his ironing procedures.

Not only a belly chuckle worthy 'kote joke, but that it's also only "fair"..... ouch

[Brett Buck]

Thanks Mike,  I think I will show up there this Sunday as a spectator..... My wife is going to be traveling down south to visit our daughter for the weekend - so its a good day for me.

   Sunday at Alameda?  Sounds like a plan, you may be able to do more than watch.

   Mike - what time do you guys usually show up?

    Brett

[Mike Scholtes]

The early arrivals are flying by 7:00 a.m. which, due to God's Law of Sun Placement Vis a Vis Wind Direction, minimizes the staring directly into the sun. Certainly by 8:00 at the latest. Since I live the closest, I am usually a later arrival, but the joint is jumping by 9:00 especially if combat guys show up.

The field is entered from Doolittle Drive just northwest of (i.e. just past) the T intersection with Harbor Bay Parkway. There is a large soccer field on the west (other) side of Doolittle at the same approximate location, so don't drive into their parking lot and conclude no model flyers showed up today. Wrong place.

The exciting news is the City of Alameda maintenance manager contacted me today to say the field will indeed be repaved. He got one estimate last week that is too  high and is looking for another contractor. He also has a commercial 30-inch mower for us to keep in our storage container. Once the runway is repaved, flyers with first-row models can show up again, as this will also raise the pavement surface relative to the grass infield and minimize line snags. Even modelers who just don't like ripping off their landing gear may return to using the field.

[Ted Fancher]

snip

The exciting news is the City of Alameda maintenance manager contacted me today to say the field will indeed be repaved. He got one estimate last week that is too  high and is looking for another contractor. He also has a commercial 30-inch mower for us to keep in our storage container. Once the runway is repaved, flyers with first-row models can show up again, as this will also raise the pavement surface relative to the grass infield and minimize line snags. Even modelers who just don't like ripping off their landing gear may return to using the field.

Mike,

That is awesome news!  I might even try to scrape the dust off something and fly again.  The lack of a safe site that doesn't require all day to get to and from (combination of  miles and traffic) has kept me pretty much inactive for some time.

Ted

[Mike Scholtes]

Hi Ted: I was thinking of you specifically when I wrote that. I have emphasized to the City that many flyers with art-museum-quality models have stopped coming out to Alameda due to the runway condition, that there is a large untapped pool of users who would come back if repairs are made. I ripped the gear off my less than museum quality Vector, and it was really strong gear!

This could be a good central location for a lot of flyers. The wind can be a little odd, as at Napa, but nothing we can't deal with. We could even host contests, on a limited scale like at Napa with just one circle (not counting the half-A circle).

Of course, I will believe it when I see it, but the City is not using weasel words when talking about repaving. Seems pretty certain to happen. Kevin will be one of the first to benefit.

[Brett Buck]

The exciting news is the City of Alameda maintenance manager contacted me today to say the field will indeed be repaved. He got one estimate last week that is too  high and is looking for another contractor. He also has a commercial 30-inch mower for us to keep in our storage container. Once the runway is repaved, flyers with first-row models can show up again, as this will also raise the pavement surface relative to the grass infield and minimize line snags. Even modelers who just don't like ripping off their landing gear may return to using the field.

   We'll see, I guess. I went over there right after the original paving, and while the circle itself was fine, the fact that it was raised was a real issue - the width of the donut is so narrow that it was almost  impossible to keep on it on landing, and then, it would roll off the side and scrape up the bottom of the outboard wing. it was orginally back-filled to prevent that issue, but then you have the snagging problem.

    Brett

 

[tom brightbill]

Shareen- brings a tear to my one good eye . Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Ted Fancher]

Shareen- brings a tear to my one good eye . Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Tom,

Were you aware "Leave it to Shareen" was a reasonably faithful recreation of an actual event...with just a few "flourishes" (the Shark fin, etc) added from the fertile mind of Uncle Jimby?

Ted Fancher

[Paul Walker]

Tom,

Were you aware "Leave it to Shareen" was a reasonably faithful recreation of an actual event...with just a few "flourishes" (the Shark fin, etc) added from the fertile mind of Uncle Jimby?

Ted Fancher

But your comversation with Mikey WAS factual?

   

[tom brightbill]

Were you aware "Leave it to Shareen" was a reasonably faithful recreation of an actual event...with just a few "flourishes" (the Shark fin, etc) added from the fertile mind of Uncle Jimby?

Ted Fancher
[/quote]

Having spent the teeniest amount of time with Uncle Jimby, it's easy to appreciate that!  I'm sure that Brett will help with my recovery.
Tom

[Mike Scholtes]

Re the runway edge, the maintenance chief is aware of the situation and the need to avoid line snags. One suggestion is to not have grass but some other surface for 10 feet or so on inner aspect next to pavement. I favor short mowed grass, which we can keep under control with our own mower, but City is open to suggestions. At present there is no real problem with running off the runway, a non-event with lines under 70 feet and the pilot staying in the center concrete pad.

[Brett Buck]

Were you aware "Leave it to Shareen" was a reasonably faithful recreation of an actual event...with just a few "flourishes" (the Shark fin, etc) added from the fertile mind of Uncle Jimby?

Ted Fancher

Having spent the teeniest amount of time with Uncle Jimby, it's easy to appreciate that!  I'm sure that Brett will help with my recovery.
Tom

   It's a hard-hitting, uncompromising, documentary.

     Brett
   

[Kevin M. Smith]

Thank you all for your information (and entertainment !) .  This is a bit of an experiment for me.  Just looking to check C/L again after not flying anything since 1976 at the age of 16 (41 years ?) .   I have had periods of R/C slope soaring (10 years) ,  R/C electric heli's (just learning) and flying full size. I am not even sure whether i will find C/L appealing after that many years, but the nostalgia and fun I had with C/L certainly is locked into my long-term memory  :-) .  When I was flying C/L as a teen, it was a bit of a struggle as i was completely unsupported (my parents had no idea what i was up to), but in each location where we lived (including Trinidad) there was always a small club/group to draw inspiration from.  My learning curve was very long back then as I made a lot of mistakes (my first model was a McCoy 35 powered Voodoo ..what was I thinking)..   I really like stunt, but my piloting skills are very novice...

[Randy Cuberly]

[ When I was flying C/L as a teen, it was a bit of a struggle as i was completely unsupported (my parents had no idea what i was up to), but in each location where we lived (including Trinidad) there was always a small club/group to draw inspiration from.  My learning curve was very long back then as I made a lot of mistakes (my first model was a McCoy 35 powered Voodoo ..what was I thinking)..   I really like stunt, but my piloting skills are very novice...
[/quote]

Never fear!  If you get mixed up with that bunch of Crazies out there you can be sure of two things...

Your skills will improve miraculously fast and you will become just as CRAZY as the rest of them! 

Must be something in the Air on the West Coast!

Randy Cuberly

[Brett Buck]

Thank you all for your information (and entertainment !) .  This is a bit of an experiment for me.  Just looking to check C/L again after not flying anything since 1976 at the age of 16 (41 years ?) .   I have had periods of R/C slope soaring (10 years) ,  R/C electric heli's (just learning) and flying full size. I am not even sure whether i will find C/L appealing after that many years, but the nostalgia and fun I had with C/L certainly is locked into my long-term memory  :-) .  When I was flying C/L as a teen, it was a bit of a struggle as i was completely unsupported (my parents had no idea what i was up to), but in each location where we lived (including Trinidad) there was always a small club/group to draw inspiration from.  My learning curve was very long back then as I made a lot of mistakes (my first model was a McCoy 35 powered Voodoo ..what was I thinking)..   I really like stunt, but my piloting skills are very novice...

   Kevin - in case it was unclear, I plan on going to Alameda and bringing an airplane that you can fly (and possibly crash, but hopefully not) on Sunday morning. Come find me, the airplane is a yellow/blue Skyray 35 and will be probably be driving a black Porsche Cayman.

   But certainly don't expect me at 7:00 AM, that's way too early for me. 9ish is more like it.

    Brett

[BYU]

I’ll try and be there as well with an orange skyray 37.5 but will “probably” be driving my Silver Bentley or Gold Rolls Royce, (whichever takes my whim).

Don’t expect to see Larry before 11:00am or so if he deigns to come, and then only if he has the accompaniment of a catwalk model on either arm.

[Brett Buck]

I’ll try and be there as well with an orange skyray 37.5 but will “probably” be driving my Silver Bentley or Gold Rolls Royce, (whichever takes my whim).

    I thought you guys all drove Aston-Martin DB-5s, but if you can get an ejector seat in the Rolls, then, OK, I guess.

    Brett

[Ted Fancher]

But your comversation with Mikey WAS factual?

   

yes, Paul.  Mikey Pratt was responsible for my smushed Nobler.  And do you think I ever got an apology? Nooooooooooooooooo!

Terribly annoyed Ted.

[Mike Scholtes]

Then I guess I just HAVE to bring the Jag XKR.

Saw a Maserati in a golf course parking lot last weekend with plates "007." Told the owner only A-M DB-5s are eligible for that plate. He says he got the plate 40 years ago when he actually had a DB-5, which did not live as long as its license plate. I suppose the Maserati is a near-replacement.

[Paul Walker]

    I thought you guys all drove Aston-Martin DB-5s, but if you can get an ejector seat in the Rolls, then, OK, I guess.

    Brett

BYU has probably already updated to a DB11 by now!