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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Warren Leadbeatter on January 03, 2007, 02:48:04 PM
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Hi all,
I just had the pleasure of competing in my first ever F2B competition, the Australian Nationals, after only learning to fly the full pattern a few weeks ago.
Results and pics as follows
F2B Expert (14 entries)
1st Paul Turner 1020.3
2nd Reg Towell 1007.63
3rd Joe Parisi 998.25
F2B Advanced (11 entries)
1st Steve Masterton 834.17
2nd John McIntyre 773.5
3rd Steve Todd 748.59
I came 8th in F2b Advanced with a score of 548.34
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Congratulations, Warren! That first one is always the toughest. y1 Not even moving to Expert will be as tough. :)
Say hello to all my friends from "OZ" next time you see them. I am planning on wearing my autographed (Herbie Hanna, Paul White, Ken Dowell, and Paul Turner) for my Officials at this years NATS, if it ain't raining!
Burn the fuel, as some great US flyer said, "the only way to get better is to see the bottom of a lot of empty gallon fuel jugs!"
Bill <><
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Anybody notice that Brian Eathers scores do not add up. When I add then he should have been second.
RO
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Anybody notice that Brian Eathers scores do not add up. When I add then he should have been second.
RO
HI
I get 983.38.? That is taking the 2 scores in yellow , 1 from each round? I am missing something?
The 935 score sort of looks like a 985 maybe thats it, lots of the scores are a little hard to read in the photo
Randy
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That's great, Warren! Maybe next time the girls will give you pointers!
Joe Mader
sshobbies
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HI
I get 983.38.? That is taking the 2 scores in yellow , 1 from each round? I am missing something?
The 935 score sort of looks like a 985 maybe thats it, lots of the scores are a little hard to read in the photo
Randy
Lets try this picture.
(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3364.0;attach=5784;image)
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Richard and Randy
This may make the scores easier to follow. THe Final Score is the Average of "best of Rounds 1 & 2" plus "best of Rounds 3 & 4". It isn't exactly the FAI requirement, but it caters for lower numbers rather than qualifying and final procedures.
1 Paul Turner WindWiper / ST 46 .. 1011.50 - 985.25 - 992.50 - 1029.50 / 1020.50
2 Reg Towell Sea Fury / Saito 72 .. 1008.00 - 955.50 - 1007.25 - 950.00 / 1007.63
3 Joe Parisi ? / Saito 72 .. 968.75 - 974.00 - 918.00 - 1022.50 / 998.25
4 Murray Howell .. 973.75 - 973.25 - 1000.50 - 500.00 / 987.13
5 Brian Eather Firecracker / Stalker 61 .. 1031.00 - 983.25 - 934.25 - 935.75 / 983.38
6 Herb Hanna Grondal Nobler / MVVS 51 .. 932.75 - 906.00 - 946.75 - 1002.50 / 967.63
7 Frank Battam Yatsenko Acrobat / Retro 60 .. 963.75 - 191.00 - 842.25 - 969.50 / 966.63
8 Doug Grinham .. 933.50 - 887.50 - 965.50 - 959.25 / 949.50
9 Tony Bonello Enigma / ST 60 .. 910.75 - 873.75 - 965.50 - dnf / 938.13
10 PJ Rowland Nobler / Stalker 61 .. 951.75 - 847.50 - 899.25 - 914.00 / 932.88
11 Bruce Hoffmann Firecracker / ? .. 903.00 - 907.00 - 907.50 - 944.50 / 925.75
12 Mark Ellins Jazzer / Stalker 61 .. 767.75 - 896.75 - 879.25 - 914.50 / 905.63
13 John Elias .. 872.00 - 820.50 - 606.50 - 653.25 / 762.63
Edited for booboo in Brian's last flight
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when I blow up the pic I see 985 not 935. When I right click on the pic it comes up larger but there is also a zoom that makes it even large. The number to me is 985. But I can certainly not be seeing it right.
RO
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Rich
The 983.38 in the last column is the Final score .. the 4th round is clearly 935.75, and being the highest of rounds 3 & 4 is the one that is added to Round 1's 1031.00 (highest of Rounds 1 & 2) for a total of 1966.75 ... then averaged to the Final Score of 983.38.
This system has it's downsides, but it results in Final Scores that are relevant to a single perfect flight of 1310. Personally, I believe it provides a better idea of each flier's success (or otherwise) in meeting the pattern's requirements rather than comparing one individual's score to another. The actual ranking of the competitors for the event as a whole doesn't change, of course, regardless of however the Final Score is calculated.
After so many years of viewing the event as "who" scored higher that "who", in the sense of personal competition between fliers, perhaps it seems strange to revert to as it should be - "who" conformed closest to that elusive perfect flight - "who" did best when competing against the Book's Pattern. That is the ultimate goal for every flier, and the Results are better when reflecting that element of competition.
What may be discerned from the complete scores is the variance in wind conditions through each of the 4 days of competition - meaning who drew the short straw and had to fly later in the day when the wind strengthened. Brian did exceptionally well on Day 4 in quite strong winds, considering he (once again) forgot the triangles. Had he had better fortune in the flight order draw (and a better memory? - the potential for a maximum 140 points), he certainly would have been in the top 3. Had the judges averaged 7 (out of 10) for those missed triangles, that would have been an additional 98 points to his 935.75. Who is to say what might have been. There is never any escape from the "luck" elements in any and all competitions.
That said, Paul Turner's 12th Australian Nationals win was well deserved. Paul has that happy knack of being able to connect his lines and fly very competitive patterns with virtually no practice whatsoever. Let's call it experience. I wasn't there myself, so am deliberately making no comment to standards of judging.
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Hi All,
Joe, Hopefully next year Kayla will be there as well in F2B... her confidence is growing and she's doing wingovers and loops now. I just need to give her more flying time now that the Nats are over...
Ken, I must say I did feel better after seeing Brian forget his triangles, as on my first flight I was so nervous, I forgot the outside squares plus to make matters worse I went over time with the Vector 40. On my subsequent 2 rounds I forgot how to do a reverse wingover! Nerves again. I finally got it all together in the last round flying the Saito 30 powered Twister.
I really do prefer my Vector 40, it is a very nice aircraft, but the engine was leaning out too much during the flights and I could get it right so I switched to the Twister for the last round.
The pressure was really on for Brian, he didnt even realise he had left the triangles out until after the flight and someone told him.
Cheers
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That scoring system sounds fair to me. That way one super flight with a couple of mediocre flights can't put you in the win column. Consistancy is what should win in any competiton. DOC Holliday