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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Mike Keville on October 20, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
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Need e-mail addresses for Jeff Reeves and Dennis Percival.
Thanks, mates!
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Mike,
I got one. Gets ya 50% there.
Charles
jeffreeves@optusnet.com.au
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Thanx, Charles. I'll give it a shot.
Mike
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Mike, Check your PM...
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Got 'em both. Many thanks for everyone's fast responses!
I'm a bit concerned about the latest wildfires in NSW, and just wanted to be sure they're both okay.
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Got 'em both. Many thanks for everyone's fast responses!
I'm a bit concerned about the latest wildfires in NSW, and just wanted to be sure they're both okay.
See http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/dsp_content.cfm?cat_id=683
They should be OK Mike. Dennis is up the coast towards Newcastle and Jeff is just north of Sydney although he is on the edge of bush. The fires are all the way down from the Queensland border to near the Victorian border and west of Sydney about a hundred miles or so. We are at Richmond and burnt leaves were falling from the Lithgow fire which is about 50 miles from here. It has since burnt east and is about 30 miles from here. About 200 homes gone up there in the mountains already but could get worse with forecast high temps to around 100F plus high winds. Parents should be proud of their kids as a couple of the fires have been started by kids aged from 11 to 15 y/o!! Don't ask as to who has been suggested as the culprit for the big fire at Lithgow!!!!!!
We just hope that the west/n.west winds stay away to keep the fire away from the lowlands where I am. The bloody wind a couple of months back was bad enough as that lot blew a tree down on my workshop and totaled it.
Regards from hot and dry OZ
HH
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Dennis is ok.
He's a regular at our club field at Mannering Park on Wednesdays and was there last week. Coincidentally on Thursday/Friday the field was burnt out by the Rutley Road, Wyong fire. Complete destruction except not one of the club buildings was even singed thanks to the Wyong branch of the NSW Fire Brigade.
The fire went on to cause some serious damage closer to the coast. Nowhere near where Dennis lives though.
The big one may happen later this week, with Apocalyptic conditions forecast on Wednesday.
Don't let them tell you that Global Warming isn't real!
Ray
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Lets hope you guys down under get some rain to put those fires out. I too was wondering about our fellow modellers.
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There's some more news today about the fire that devastated the south eastern side of Lake Macquarie.
It was indeed started at our flying field but a few weeks ago. Late one Wednesday morning we arrived to find the surrounding bush burning fiercely.
The fire brigade put it out and commenced investigations about possible arson. A man had just been bailed that morning for a series of fires in the
Hunter Valley and around the lake. Coincidentally he lived locally. He may had done the deed on the way home from court.
It seems that the fire had got into a coal seam on our flying site. The place is next to a coal mine, was an old coal washery site and because it's
seriously undermined (long wall mining) is full of cracks.
Current thought is that the blaze restarted last thursday/friday (a really hot windy day) with a discharge of Coal Seam Gas (CSG).
Here's the local Newspaper report.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1855852/coal-seam-fire-ignites-arson-inquiry/?cs=305 (http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1855852/coal-seam-fire-ignites-arson-inquiry/?cs=305)
Ray
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So, Ray, you are now telling us that it wasn't causesd by gerbil worming at all! HB~> HB~> n~ n1
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So, Ray, you are now telling us that it wasn't causesd by gerbil worming at all! HB~> HB~> n~ n1
No Geoff it wasn't global warming that started the fire, it was a **** with a lighter.
BUT Global warming did have a part to play in the fire season beginning so early.
Are you living in some kind of A/C delusion, or did you actually notice that we have just had the hottest September on record, and the polar ice cap has shrunk to an extent where polar bears are considered at risk of extinction.
Read this article PLEASE!!
http://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/global-warming-linked-to-wildfires-un-climate-chief_884917.html
Greg
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So, Ray, you are now telling us that it wasn't causesd by gerbil worming at all! HB~> HB~> n~ n1
Geoffrey,
your stubborn refusal to open your eyes to what's happening around you is becoming a little tedious.
Didn't they teach you Science at St Joey's?
n1
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St Joey's?????? What's this St Joey's you gibber about, Ray? HB~> I'm ex selective high school and Uni of NSW.
And Greg, the conditions were the worst we've seen in 50 years.
Ergo, things were worse 50 years ago and today, the green tape you have to fight with to get approval for a hazard reduction burn is stiffling—more stiffling than the current heat.
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Jeff,
What's this 50 years? My quote was that September was the hottest on record. Our records do go back beyond 50 years you know!
I hear of no evidence that preparations were stifled by excessive regulation, the fact is that the preparations were probably well in hand given our usual fire season starting around December. Also if there is a preponderance of so called green tape there is surely a desperate need to have a clear conversation about all of the issues based on current science.
I doubt that you'll bother reading this information from the Government - it was probably sponsored by the previous lot and therefore suspect. http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/
Wait a little while and the current lot will be able to sack all the scientists and get their info from Wikipedia - a la Minister for denying climate change Hunt!
Greg
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What would happen if you cut down 80 % of the forests in Australia ?
http://fennerschool-associated.anu.edu.au/environhist/links/publications/anzfh/anzfh1evans.pdf
Bugger . They allready have . :X %^@
Wilcannia is a small town located within the Central Darling Shire in north western New South Wales, Australia. This was the third largest inland port in the country during the great river boat era of the mid-19th century.
(http://www.dpmc.gov.au/annual_reports/2008-09/images/murray_darling.jpg)
(http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/marohasy/goolwa_barrage_no%20boating.jpg)
eight years ago you could walk across the Murry at Burke without getting your shorts wet , unless you sank in the mud .
Egghead Media were whineing why they build a dam at Qld as it had no water , till the big wet at the Dalby Nats . n~
(http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2013/01/15/TDH150113flood11_online_fct768x473x134_t460.jpg)
was about a foot lower , the bridge in the middle of town . dropped of there at 11pm from a 4wd , hitching to the Nats .
Not to worry , its bound to rain again in the next seven years . H^^
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St Joey's?????? What's this St Joey's you gibber about, Ray? HB~> I'm ex selective high school and Uni of NSW.
the green tape you have to fight with to get approval for a hazard reduction burn is stiffling—more stiffling than the current heat.
Well then how come that you present "facts" like a Libtard redneck?
Facts are the over the past twenty years or so, the onset of the bushfire season has moved from early December to mid October.
What green tape would that be then? Sounds like the sort of garbage you get from the 2GB Institute of Climate Change!
:)
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Bloody hell Ray, I thought you were an academic—not a retarded follower of the left. Your comments sound like a sermon from a high priest of the Church of Climatology.
Just one simple fact is that when the area covered by national parks in NSW was substantially about a decade ago, the National Parks and Wildlife Service were given no additional funds to enable them to adequately manage the greatly increased area of bush. Also, access to the national parks was restricted—for example, grazing was banned so cattle didn't eat the under storey.
For the record, my knowledg of the issues of getting approval for hazard reduction burns came from the time a few years ago when, working as a consultant to the NSW Fire Brigade, I worked with a mixed team of operational Fire Brigade and Rural Fire Service people to review the standard operating guidelines for hazard reduction burns in NSW.
Then there's Liberal Senator Christopher Back who was CEO of the Bush Fires Board of Western Australia and says bushfires are best prevented not with a carbon tax but a fuel-reduction burn. 'In WA, the aim is to cool burn around 10% of the jarrah forests annually. In many Eastern Australian forests it is estimated the figure achieved is around 2% or less. It is simply not enough.'
And former CSIRO bushfire researcher David Packham said, 'we had to burn our bush every 10 years to cut the leaf litter that turns our fires into infernos, a level of burning NSW doesn’t come close to reaching.'
This is largely a domestic topic from NSW which I think inappropriate for an international forum—but you were told that several times before you were banned from the Barton Forum.
Had it not been for the personal attacks, I would have ignored your puerile remarks and I will not respond any further.