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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Gary Anderson on February 03, 2008, 12:52:11 AM
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Hi guys, I was having one of my dreams about the ares. I have the prints, I purchased from Brodak. I like bigger ships (sixty size) anyway I'm sure someone has done this before, I've been thinking about running the print through a plotter and increase bye 10% or maybe 15%. I'm sure there is prints out there that is the sixty size I beam wing. I was just wondering how many people have used this method to make bigger ships? I never really studied the math on doing this, just figured that everything would increase evenly proportionally. I build my smoothie this way and she flew great.
Some times I wonder just how critical the different spacing are, I have some that the distance from flaps to elevator difference quite a lot and some are really close coupled. It seems like to me trim is the most important issue, in almost all set up's. Most fuselage I build I have change according to which engine I'm using. Most of the older type ship had there fuel tank glued in solid, which is really a bad idea, I believe most metal tanks need service after a period of use. If you ever cut a tank out of a nobler you'll find out how much fun that can be. I usually redraw most prints to fit the rib spacing I want, I find after most print have been reprinted several times they seem to change spacing. I usually redraw my wing on good old brown paper and lay it out under my wing and what ever jig I'm using. I waste a lot of time doing nothing but I have fun. If it don't quit raining I'm going to go crazy, have a great day and I would appreciate any input about using the plotter method, Gary
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hi Gary.
I believe there is a Super Ares that was designed and built by Bill Werwage that was 60 sized - others will correct me on this I bet... you can also guarantee that someone here will have the plans for it.
as for enlarging the plans ... I do this on a number of airplanes and they seem to work fine - the rib spacing etc is proportionate to the percantage you enlarge the plans so should be fine/ I do the same thing to make airplanes smaller - the only difference here is that the airfoil needs to get thinner generally - but that is another story...
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Gary
Randy Smith's "Aero Products" site lists the 60" span "Super Ares" in the plans section...
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Gary,
Ken Cerney from Florida competes with the Bill Werwage designed Super Ares in Expert and Classic . Powered by a Four Stroke , He won on the Pilots choice award at the KOI this year,A well deserved award, His Super Ares is a very clean and the workmanship is top level .. Good flying plane too .
A good choice if someone wanted a Bigger Ares with proven numbers..
Will