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Title: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RC Storick on February 13, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
Found it here http://www.pennvalleyhobbycenter.com/rubber/supplies/tissue.htm

Let us know if you ordered here?
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Balsa Butcher on February 13, 2014, 09:33:12 PM
I have ordered kits from them, both C/L and Free Flight. They have been around a long time and are a reliable vendor.  8)
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Jason Greer on February 13, 2014, 10:16:19 PM
Thank you sir!  I was just asking around this evening trying to locate some. Do you recommend the 00 or SMG?

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RC Storick on February 13, 2014, 10:22:32 PM
Thank you sir!  I was just asking around this evening trying to locate some. Do you recommend the 00 or SMG?

Thanks,
Jason

I use 00
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Mike Palko on February 13, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Penn Valley was my local hobby shop since I started flying in the 1990's. The Philly Fliers met there every Thursday evening for 20+ years. They closed their doors last year and became on online business. When they closed I was under the impression they were only going to sell items they had stock piled or manufacture in house. Most of their sales are now through eBay.

They had no silkspan in stock for as long as I can remember. I believe Banjock ordered through them once or twice and they said SIG can no longer supply it. I'd be curious how they respond if an order was placed.

It was a real shame to lose an old time hobby shop like theirs.

Mike
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Jason Greer on February 13, 2014, 10:26:27 PM
Thanks guys. I'll give them a call tomorrow and see if they do indeed have stock.
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Mike Palko on February 13, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
I thought SIG was specified in Roberts original post. They started to carry K&S when SIG was no longer available.

Mike

Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Dennis Moritz on February 13, 2014, 11:09:14 PM
It's always possible that Penn Valley discovered more silkspan somewhere in their storage. If they did, it would be a lucky find. We picked through their shelves thoroughly before they shut their doors. At that time there was no silkspan left. Order it quickly if any is available. John Brodak still advertises silkspan on his website. I believe he has a current source. But I haven't check that out. There were questions about quality sometime back. All I can say is some high point finishes were made using the silkspan John sells.
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: wwwarbird on February 13, 2014, 11:21:05 PM
 I've always used Sig medium for all of my silkspan work, for me it's always been of a consistent quality. Since discovering Polyspan roughly ten years ago though I've used it from Tom Morris exclusively for all open bay wing work, but I still use Sig silkspan for finishing compound curve wingtips and covering all other areas of the model. Being nervous about Sig's continued availability I tried Brodak's medium once a few years ago but it sucked and I literally threw away what I had left. The weight of it was more like Sig's lightweight silkspan (toilet paper) and the stuff was ridiculously full of holes. I didn't even like it for use over solid areas. I still have some Sig medium left, but I also have my fingers crossed that I can get more of it.
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RC Storick on February 14, 2014, 07:35:26 AM
I ordered 15 sheets and here is the response.

Expect a delay as we are under Blizzard conditions.

Hi, Order/Paypal payment confirmed. Thank You. Bill Shive, Owner, PVHC.

You should receive an Email from Stamps.Com when the item is shipped.
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Mike Griffin on February 14, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
I was going to order some heavy silkspan from them but shipping is $10.00.  The price is $2.25 per sheet for the silkspan.  I think the shipping is just a tad high.

Mike
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RC Storick on February 14, 2014, 03:11:21 PM
They do have it and this is the message I got

Expect a delay as we are under Blizzard conditions.

Hi, Order/Paypal payment confirmed. Thank You. Bill Shive, Owner, PVHC.

You should receive an Email from Stamps.Com when the item is shipped.

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This message was sent to you at the request of Penn Valley Hobby Center, to notify you that they have shipped a package to you. For details about your shipment or to track your package, please refer to the information below.


Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: wwwarbird on February 14, 2014, 10:24:00 PM

 Whose silkspan is Penn Valley selling? Sig? Brodak? or...?
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Balsa Butcher on February 14, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
If you click on the link it states "K&S". If it is old stock, that's the good stuff. If it is the more recent offering it is still OK and similar to what Sig was selling until they ran out. 8) 
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RknRusty on February 16, 2014, 07:44:04 AM
I used silkspan recently for the first time, left over from old 1/2A kits. Not for covering wings, but for the profile fuselage. It cuts down on sanding, but is there any other advantage? I didn't know if it added any significant strength and would like to know if wrapping paper tissue or anything else more readily available had other benefits that would make my builds better in any way.

I put it on with Polycrylic, which I hear is heavy. A buddy who's opinion I respect suggested thinned white glue, and though I've never tried dope, I see my LHS has small bottles of Aerogloss clear #65-4 for about $5 or $6 bucks.
Just curious.
Rusty
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: George on February 17, 2014, 12:51:58 AM
II see my LHS has small bottles of Aerogloss clear #65-4 for about $5 or $6 bucks.
Just curious.
Rusty 

Rusty, over the years many have had compatibility problems using Aerogloss with other dopes...proceed with caution.  I would try test pieces with whatever else you intend to use.

George
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RknRusty on February 17, 2014, 02:57:48 AM
George, considering you're not the first person to tell me that, Aerogloss is officially off the list. Thanks,
Rusty
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: RC Storick on February 17, 2014, 09:27:30 AM
Wicks aircraft sell Randolph dope this is what I use and I recommend.
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: john e. holliday on February 17, 2014, 12:20:57 PM
Again I posted  this on another thread, but last Friday I seen two boxes  of 00 silk span at Mike's Hobby Shop in Carrolton Tx.   I don't  use it so it may still be there.
Title: Re: Are you looking for silkspan?
Post by: Bill Little on February 17, 2014, 12:27:15 PM
Wicks aircraft sell Randolph dope this is what I use and I recommend.

I like Randolph the best also and have used a lot of Sig but almost no Brodak.  Simply because there was no close source for it in anything larger than a 4oz. bottle.  From what I understand, Sig and Brodak are made using Randolph components. (could be wrong about Sig, but Brodak is definitely made from Randolph products)

Plus, Randolph is definitely cheaper!

BIG Bear