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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Craig Beswick on April 24, 2021, 10:37:03 PM

Title: ANZAC day
Post by: Craig Beswick on April 24, 2021, 10:37:03 PM
To the Aussies and Kiwis out there. In fact to all the fallen.

"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."

Peace to all.
Title: Re: ANZAC day
Post by: Robert Whitley on April 24, 2021, 11:06:58 PM
As Craig quoted: we will remember them.
Title: Re: ANZAC day
Post by: John Carrodus on April 25, 2021, 04:42:40 PM
Yes a day to thank God for all those old Aussie and Kiwi "Diggers" who gave us the freedoms we enjoy ( and take for granted) now.  A weekend too, to remember and thank the thousands of US GI's who formed up in Wellington and Auckland before setting off into the Pacific, many of whom will also "....not grow old." The Japanese had flown over Auckland at night looking for warships, then went on to attack Sydney Harbour with midget subs, and bomb the hell out of Darwin on many occasions. German raiders were active off NZ and the AUS coast. The enemy was indeed on our doorstep. Those of us who know our history and are proud of our friends and neighbours deeply appreciate and are forever grateful to the US for helping us remain free.
Title: Re: ANZAC day
Post by: Air Ministry . on April 25, 2021, 06:34:11 PM
Mind boggling .

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/World_War_II_Casualties2.svg/1920px-World_War_II_Casualties2.svg.png)

27.000 Australians , 12.000 New Zealandeers killed .  :(

Though accounts vary

DEATHS BY COUNTRY
 
Country   Military Deaths   Total Civilian and Military Deaths
Albania   30,000   30,200
Australia   39,800   40,500
Austria   261,000   384,700
Belgium   12,100   86,100
Brazil   1,000   2,000
Bulgaria   22,000   25,000
Canada   45,400   45,400
China   3-4,000,000   20,000,000
Czechoslovakia   25,000   345,000
Denmark   2,100   3,200
Dutch East Indies   --   3-4,000,000
Estonia   --   51,000
Ethiopia   5,000   100,000
Finland   95,000   97,000
France   217,600   567,600
French Indochina   --   1-1,500,000
Germany   5,533,000   6,600,000-8,800,000
Greece   20,000-35,000   300,000-800,000
Hungary   300,000   580,000
India   87,000   1,500,000-2,500,000
Italy   301,400   457,000
Japan   2,120,000   2,600,000-3,100,000
Korea   --   378,000-473,000
Latvia   --   227,000
Lithuania   --   353,000
Luxembourg   --   2,000
Malaya   --   100,000
Netherlands   17,000   301,000
New Zealand   11,900   11,900
Norway   3,000   9,500
Papua New Guinea   --   15,000
Philippines   57,000   500,000-1,000,000
Poland   240,000   5,600,000
Romania   300,000   833,000
Singapore   --   50,000
South Africa   11,900   11,900
Soviet Union   8,800,000-10,700,000   24,000,000
United Kingdom   383,600   450,700
United States   416,800   418,500
Yugoslavia   446,000   1,000,000
WORLDWIDE CASUALTIES*
 
Battle Deaths   15,000,000
Battle Wounded   25,000,000
Civilian Deaths   45,000,000

*Worldwide casualty estimates vary widely in several sources. The number of civilian deaths in China alone might well be more than 50,000,000.

USSR .

(The population decline during the war years themselves was more drastic, from almost 200,000,000 on July 1, 1941, to some 170,000,000 in 1945.) (3) If there had been no war, the population of 194,000,000 in 1940 would have reached a total of about 224,000,000 in 1950.

You need to watch who you let have your scrap metal .

Title: Re: ANZAC day
Post by: Craig Beswick on April 25, 2021, 10:02:34 PM
You never cease to amaze me Matt!

Craig Beswick
Title: Re: ANZAC day
Post by: John Carrodus on April 25, 2021, 10:42:27 PM
Air Ministry( Matt?) ...Your research figures absolutely stagger me. Thanks to the Allies this wholesale barbarism was curbed ( at the time) and almost, but not entirely halted. Is there is enough will in the world to pull this alliance together again if and when it is ever needed.(I'd prefer to leave this as a thought, not a question.)

I am certain about one thing for the future, the world would be a lot happier if more folk flew control line! Tight lines!
Title: Re: ANZAC day
Post by: David Murrell on May 04, 2021, 02:38:39 AM
Thank you John, and Matt, from a returned serviceman, (Wallaby Airlines, Vung Tau), the original Anzacs fought insurmountable odds in a battle that should have never been fought (thanks Churchill et al) and never gave up. Later WWI battles in France were much more successful, mainly due to better (mainly Australian) leaders.

Yes, we owe a great amount to the selfless people from all the Allies in both WWI and WWII

Is there enough appreciation in today's world for the general, younger people to appreciate just how they have the freedom (and ability) to live the lives they do.

As said many times, lest we forget - their sacrifices and selfless efforts, from cooks to pilots and the women who supported everyone

Can we please educate the next generation as to just how their freedom was achieved.

And thanks to everyone here on this forum for allowing me to let off some steam, and Matt, see you at Muswellbrook soon