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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Craig Beswick on April 24, 2021, 10:37:03 PM
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To the Aussies and Kiwis out there. In fact to all the fallen.
"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."
Peace to all.
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As Craig quoted: we will remember them.
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Yes a day to thank God for all those old Aussie and Kiwi "Diggers" who gave us the freedoms we enjoy ( and take for granted) now. A weekend too, to remember and thank the thousands of US GI's who formed up in Wellington and Auckland before setting off into the Pacific, many of whom will also "....not grow old." The Japanese had flown over Auckland at night looking for warships, then went on to attack Sydney Harbour with midget subs, and bomb the hell out of Darwin on many occasions. German raiders were active off NZ and the AUS coast. The enemy was indeed on our doorstep. Those of us who know our history and are proud of our friends and neighbours deeply appreciate and are forever grateful to the US for helping us remain free.
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Mind boggling .
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/World_War_II_Casualties2.svg/1920px-World_War_II_Casualties2.svg.png)
27.000 Australians , 12.000 New Zealandeers killed . :(
Though accounts vary
DEATHS BY COUNTRY
Country Military Deaths Total Civilian and Military Deaths
Albania 30,000 30,200
Australia 39,800 40,500
Austria 261,000 384,700
Belgium 12,100 86,100
Brazil 1,000 2,000
Bulgaria 22,000 25,000
Canada 45,400 45,400
China 3-4,000,000 20,000,000
Czechoslovakia 25,000 345,000
Denmark 2,100 3,200
Dutch East Indies -- 3-4,000,000
Estonia -- 51,000
Ethiopia 5,000 100,000
Finland 95,000 97,000
France 217,600 567,600
French Indochina -- 1-1,500,000
Germany 5,533,000 6,600,000-8,800,000
Greece 20,000-35,000 300,000-800,000
Hungary 300,000 580,000
India 87,000 1,500,000-2,500,000
Italy 301,400 457,000
Japan 2,120,000 2,600,000-3,100,000
Korea -- 378,000-473,000
Latvia -- 227,000
Lithuania -- 353,000
Luxembourg -- 2,000
Malaya -- 100,000
Netherlands 17,000 301,000
New Zealand 11,900 11,900
Norway 3,000 9,500
Papua New Guinea -- 15,000
Philippines 57,000 500,000-1,000,000
Poland 240,000 5,600,000
Romania 300,000 833,000
Singapore -- 50,000
South Africa 11,900 11,900
Soviet Union 8,800,000-10,700,000 24,000,000
United Kingdom 383,600 450,700
United States 416,800 418,500
Yugoslavia 446,000 1,000,000
WORLDWIDE CASUALTIES*
Battle Deaths 15,000,000
Battle Wounded 25,000,000
Civilian Deaths 45,000,000
*Worldwide casualty estimates vary widely in several sources. The number of civilian deaths in China alone might well be more than 50,000,000.
USSR .
(The population decline during the war years themselves was more drastic, from almost 200,000,000 on July 1, 1941, to some 170,000,000 in 1945.) (3) If there had been no war, the population of 194,000,000 in 1940 would have reached a total of about 224,000,000 in 1950.
You need to watch who you let have your scrap metal .
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You never cease to amaze me Matt!
Craig Beswick
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Air Ministry( Matt?) ...Your research figures absolutely stagger me. Thanks to the Allies this wholesale barbarism was curbed ( at the time) and almost, but not entirely halted. Is there is enough will in the world to pull this alliance together again if and when it is ever needed.(I'd prefer to leave this as a thought, not a question.)
I am certain about one thing for the future, the world would be a lot happier if more folk flew control line! Tight lines!
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Thank you John, and Matt, from a returned serviceman, (Wallaby Airlines, Vung Tau), the original Anzacs fought insurmountable odds in a battle that should have never been fought (thanks Churchill et al) and never gave up. Later WWI battles in France were much more successful, mainly due to better (mainly Australian) leaders.
Yes, we owe a great amount to the selfless people from all the Allies in both WWI and WWII
Is there enough appreciation in today's world for the general, younger people to appreciate just how they have the freedom (and ability) to live the lives they do.
As said many times, lest we forget - their sacrifices and selfless efforts, from cooks to pilots and the women who supported everyone
Can we please educate the next generation as to just how their freedom was achieved.
And thanks to everyone here on this forum for allowing me to let off some steam, and Matt, see you at Muswellbrook soon