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Offline frank mccune

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What class would these two planes qualify?
« on: August 17, 2016, 01:01:35 PM »
     Hello All:

     I have two beautiful planes hanging in my attic that have never been flown.  The engines have never been started and are equipped with custom mufflers.  I am wondering what class of stunt would the be flown in to meet the requirements.  I am a beginner.

     One is a Sterling P 51 and the other is a CG Shoestring.  Both have new McCoy .35 Red Head engines installed and are ready to fly.  I feel that I should get hem into the air.  They will waste away while in the attic.

     Suggestions or comments?

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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 01:05:19 PM »
Foxberg  racing and OTS or Classic stunt.
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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 01:10:20 PM »
Foxberg  racing and OTS or Classic stunt.

Check the dates for OTS.  I'm almost certain that the P 51 is later than the cutoff date for OTS.  I'm less sure about the Shoestring.

If nothing else they're fondly remembered planes with lots of nostalgia behind them -- just getting them in the air and flying them for sport, or in Classic Stunt would be fun.
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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 01:17:03 PM »
According to Outerzone, the Goldberg Shoestring is from 1962 -- here's the link.  So it's classic-legal, but not OTS.

I looked for the Stirling P-51, didn't find anything.
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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2016, 01:37:07 PM »
Sterling P-51 (F-51) should be OTS legal while the Shoestring is Classic legal.  Both are Profile legal if you are looking the stunt competition route.  Certainly both are great models to take out and fly for fun and perhaps even race.
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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 02:15:33 PM »
These models can be very competitive, I believe the Mustang was flown to a first place at Brodaks this year in OTS (phase II) and  one of our clubs younger flyers, Chris Fretz, took a second plane in Beginner Profile with one.    Definitely take them out and fly them !!!!!!!
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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2016, 05:40:48 PM »
Give them a pull test.


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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2016, 05:46:15 PM »
Sterling Mustang is definitely OTS-legal.  Goldberg Shoestring: Classic.

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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 07:29:59 PM »
No one should ever try to fly an unrun McCoy 35. They had no quality control and range between scrap and fairly good, but must be bench run on high castor fuel or you are looking for trouble.

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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2016, 11:57:13 AM »
     Hi Garf and others:

     I will break in the McCoys  prior to attempting any flights!

     I have a couple of McCoy 1948 .29 Sportsman engines with new Bowman rings that I think would have more impact than the Red Heads.  I also have  1949 and a 1951 Fox .35 and .29 engines that are in great shape.  Perhaps these would be a better engine choice.  The Sportsman engines with their rear intakes, do have a larger bit of nostalgia for me. Lol If I remember correctly. the Sportsman engine were quite weak when compared to the Fox engines.

     What would be the better choice for old times sake?

     Suggestions and /or comments?

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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2016, 12:15:36 PM »
Go with the Fox's.  Of course Jim Kraft beats all of us with his McCoy Redheads in Old Time and in Profile. H^^
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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2016, 01:03:10 PM »
If the McCoys have good compression run them on 28% all castor oil fuel with 10 to 15% nitro and they will be far better than the other engines.  If they don't have good compression (good piston cylinder fit) you can have them chromed and fitted and they will be great!

If you don't want to fiddle with them and they don't have good compression there may be some folks around that will buy them (cheap of course)...then use the Foxes although they are poor choices for profiles!  Vibration and the infamous BURP can get ya'.

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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2016, 02:48:59 PM »
Hi Frank, Both models are certainly "Legal" for N-30 as well!!!

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Re: What class would these two planes qualify?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2016, 09:37:01 AM »
I have 2 of the McCoy Sportsman .29 with 45* rear rotor. One was ringed and one was a rare lapped model. According to George Aldrich, the lapped models were chromed and took forever to break in. The ringed one was a total mess. Not even Frank Bowman was able to fix it. The lapped one was almost new. I flew it a few times on a Guilliows Galaxy. It wouldn't run steady. Most likely not broken in. Plenty of power for the Galaxy.


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