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Title: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Bob Zambelli on April 14, 2008, 09:51:38 AM
A friend from Denmark sent me these. Looks like quite the ultimate ARF!!!

Anyone know what they cost??????

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: RandySmith on April 14, 2008, 10:19:07 AM
HI Bob

About 3000 bucks

Randy
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: linheart smith on April 14, 2008, 10:22:08 AM
Bob,

This is what Jose had to say about the price of a Shark in my thread on Ukraine Take Apart.

Linheart



"The model in the photos is a replica of the Shark the controls, pushrod ends,belcrank hookup, interior Molded  wood constuctions minus the built-uo wing very similar.
  the price of 1,700 dollars is 1/2 the price of a skark.
     JOSE MODESTO"



Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Wynn Robins on April 14, 2008, 02:21:52 PM
Linehart - I think you will find that this one IS the shark and as Randy said - they are aroung $3kUS.

the one Jose refered to as half the price if the one in the classifieds - which is in no way, shape or form a Yatsenko shark.
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: jose modesto on April 14, 2008, 05:57:52 PM
Just to be clear I own two (2) Yatsenko Sharks. The Purchase and delivered price of a Shark at todays rate is $3,400.00.
 My statement of the new model being a clone or similar to the shark is acurate. The maindiferences are the 1/4 molded wing panels and the eliptical wing plan form.

                             JOSE MODESTO
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: linheart smith on April 15, 2008, 04:54:41 AM
Photo of Orestes Hernandez with his Shark named Legacy on L pad 2006 Nats. He kept flying that Shark until it was dark.


Linheart
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: proparc on April 15, 2008, 10:34:16 AM
Photo of Orestes Hernandez with his Shark named Legacy on L pad 2006 Nats. He kept flying that Shark until it was dark.


Linheart

If I paid $3000 for a stunt ship, I would kiss my wife and kids goodbye and fly that thing 24 hours a day. y1
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Richard Grogan on April 15, 2008, 11:41:08 AM
If I paid $3000 for a stunt ship, I would kiss my wife and kids goodbye and fly that thing 24 hours a day. y1

Hmmmm...never thought about that... mw~ :!
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Bill Little on April 15, 2008, 11:44:06 AM
If I paid $3000 for a stunt ship, I would kiss my wife and kids goodbye and fly that thing 24 hours a day. y1

Now, Milton, you GREW UP with Jose!   He has two....... what does HE do?? ?? ?? ??

Bill
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Steve Fitton on April 15, 2008, 03:53:04 PM
If I paid $3000 for a stunt ship, I would kiss my wife and kids goodbye and fly that thing 24 hours a day. y1

I would get thrown out of the house and have nothing left to do but fly it 24 hours a day.  Actually, my wife would probably run the Shark over and THEN file for the divorce! mw~
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Randy Cuberly on April 15, 2008, 06:36:18 PM
I would get thrown out of the house and have nothing left to do but fly it 24 hours a day.  Actually, my wife would probably run the Shark over and THEN file for the divorce! mw~

Just for comparison, I just calculated how much I have in materials in my new Tempest II.  It comes to $1053.50.  Mind you, that is just materials and doesn't include any costs for other assembly necessities like jigs, knives, drills, nuts and bolts, sandpaper, jig saws, compressor and spray equipment, etc., etc., etc.

Not to mention the many months of sweat over the Balsa.

Looking at it from that perspective $3400.00 seems pretty cost effective for a complet ready to fly competitive stunter and engine.

Yes I prefer to build because I enjoy that part of the sport also, but if I just wanted to fly I would definitely spring for the Shark and save all the many months of building, painting, maintaining tools, etc.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Bill Little on April 15, 2008, 07:09:38 PM
Just for comparison, I just calculated how much I have in materials in my new Tempest II.  It comes to $1053.50.  Mind you, that is just materials and doesn't include any costs for other assembly necessities like jigs, knives, drills, nuts and bolts, sandpaper, jig saws, compressor and spray equipment, etc., etc., etc.

Not to mention the many months of sweat over the Balsa.

Looking at it from that perspective $3400.00 seems pretty cost effective for a complet ready to fly competitive stunter and engine.

Yes I prefer to build because I enjoy that part of the sport also, but if I just wanted to fly I would definitely spring for the Shark and save all the many months of building, painting, maintaining tools, etc.

Randy Cuberly

Hi Randy,

I don't count the total cost of the powertrain for each build.  ;D  We use an engine until it turns to dust and can no longer be rebuilt! (then I find another used one)  I would definitely say I am the poster child for *PO* Stunt!   LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

Got to get you to doing some *comparison shopping*!  y1  S?P  :##

Man, if I spent $1000 on a model airplane, my wife wouldn't BOTHER with a divorce, she'd just get the shotgun (she grew up in the country, too, and can use it!) load it with OO buck, and empty it in me!  mw~  #^  ~>  ~^  :o

Bill
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: jose modesto on April 15, 2008, 07:38:24 PM
Bill I work as a construction senior project manager in New York City. The pay is very good for a regular guy like me.

Steve my wife actualy had to send the check for the first model. the second Shark was purchased from a $5,000 cash gift dont tell my wife.

My wife was very happy to have a model that could travel on an airliner with the Huntenrsville contest as one of her favorites as her good friend lives in Charlote N C

At the time of the Shark purchase I was getting very sick from the model products like balsa,CA,paint etc. wen i mentioned the Shark to her she was happy for the purchase as my averse reactions to the hobby products was getting to her. Having a cold everytime i touched balsa or CA was geting to me so the purchase of one of the kits from Orestes Hernandes was a good choist for me.
PS The plane flies great better than all my other 10 planes.
                      jose modesto
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Larry Cunningham on April 16, 2008, 03:51:25 AM
What a magnificent model. I'd like to study it in more detail, to learn as much as I could
about the construction features.

I've always liked the way some engines run at the "9 o'clock" position, and I also have had
this notion for years that a ship could be constructed with modules, that would allow
take apart and easy finishing of course. But also I think it would be possible to make it
with interchangeable modules for various components, so that perhaps a different wing,
longer nose, etc. could simply be plugged in, for repair, or for trimming and/or different
engines, etc.

Great stuff! Clearly, it's a new paradigm for CL Stunt.

L.

"If we weren't all crazy, we would go insane!" -Jimmy Buffett
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Doug Moon on April 16, 2008, 08:13:24 AM
Sharks are cool!
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Bill Little on April 16, 2008, 11:13:55 AM
Bill I work as a construction senior project manager in New York City. The pay is very good for a regular guy like me.

Steve my wife actualy had to send the check for the first model. the second Shark was purchased from a $5,000 cash gift dont tell my wife.

My wife was very happy to have a model that could travel on an airliner with the Huntenrsville contest as one of her favorites as her good friend lives in Charlote N C

At the time of the Shark purchase I was getting very sick from the model products like balsa,CA,paint etc. wen i mentioned the Shark to her she was happy for the purchase as my averse reactions to the hobby products was getting to her. Having a cold everytime i touched balsa or CA was geting to me so the purchase of one of the kits from Orestes Hernandes was a good choist for me.
PS The plane flies great better than all my other 10 planes.
                      jose modesto

Hi Jose,

As I know of your profession, I was justr picking at Milton.... as to what HE said about having just ONE!  So if you have two, I was wondering what he thought you should do. LL~

Hope to see you again, soon.  Huntersville in May is out for me, but since I will be retared (or is it retired??) starting in June, I *might* make it up to Flushing and sleep on Champione's Futton! LL~

Bill
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Randy Cuberly on April 16, 2008, 11:36:36 AM
Hi Randy,

I don't count the total cost of the powertrain for each build.  ;D  We use an engine until it turns to dust and can no longer be rebuilt! (then I find another used one)  I would definitely say I am the poster child for *PO* Stunt!   LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

Got to get you to doing some *comparison shopping*!  y1  S?P  :##

Man, if I spent $1000 on a model airplane, my wife wouldn't BOTHER with a divorce, she'd just get the shotgun (she grew up in the country, too, and can use it!) load it with OO buck, and empty it in me!  mw~  #^  ~>  ~^  :o

Bill


Bill,
I had a wife like that once...kept looking and found one that's supportive of my interests.   There's a lot of them out there.
I usually have two identical engines set up for a given stunter, with a complete fuel tank pipe set up.  Actually I didn't include that in the material cost.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: ptg on April 16, 2008, 12:52:50 PM
In a world where everything looks like everything else, the Shark is ART.  Jose is a collector, soon to be a Curator of fine art!
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Ralph Wenzel (d) on April 16, 2008, 01:34:23 PM
If I paid $3000 for a stunt ship, I would kiss my wife and kids goodbye and fly that thing 24 hours a day. y1

You'd have to, Milt - - She'd see to it!
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Wynn Robins on April 16, 2008, 02:17:04 PM
my only fear is that after I die, my wife will sell all my models for what I told HER I paid for them.!
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: linheart smith on April 16, 2008, 02:42:51 PM
Wynn,

I am LOL so hard at your joke,  I damm near choked.

Linheart

Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Bill Little on April 17, 2008, 09:31:27 AM

Bill,
I had a wife like that once...kept looking and found one that's supportive of my interests.   There's a lot of them out there.
I usually have two identical engines set up for a given stunter, with a complete fuel tank pipe set up.  Actually I didn't include that in the material cost.

Randy Cuberly

Hi Randy,

My wife HAS been tolerant of my hobbies for close to 40 years..... but she DOES have her limits. ;D  (and I do, too! LOL!!)

Bill
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: Will Hinton on April 17, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
Although I don't want to start a move away from the subject of this thread, Jose's situation is one that every modeler should look at very closely before knocking the advent of ARFs.  Not even taking into consideration the time element involved that would keep many from flying, the health issue is ligitimate!  We all either know or know of Jose and the builder/flyer he has proven himself to be, yet here he is with this Shark.  Jose, thanks for your candor about your reason for the Shark, maybe a few people will rethink their opposition to ARFs.  A side note, I build all my ships from scratch that I compete with, but I still support the ARF concept.  Who knows, I may be the next one with allergies!  Then where would I be if I had railed against the ARFs?!
Blessings,  (Even if ya flies ARFs!)
Will
Title: Re: Anyone for a Shark?
Post by: jose modesto on April 17, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
PTG are u selling me a Skinny Diva for my collection of flying art.
I will attend this years Nats hope to see you there.
                 JOSE MODESTO