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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Paul Taylor on April 19, 2009, 06:57:42 AM
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Leo? Richard?
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cant load then will try when get home from todays funnnnnnnnn
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Thanks Geoffrey !!!!
Can't wait for the rest of them.
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WOW,
Lookit all those turbulence creators around the circle! Betcha don't fly in a 25 MPH wind!
Jim Pollock %^@
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Well, the weather was beautiful and pretty calm for Portland (flying at Delta Park is kinda like sticking your head in a washing machine when there is even just a little wind). Pete Ferguson splatted his many times rebuilt Strega. I think it's safe to say that it's seen it's last rebuild. And Art Zehner found out why it's better to land inverted than try to save it when the engine quits in the clover. But overall, a very fun contest. The profile Ringmaster Deluxe flew pretty well (for only having 6 or so flights on it and still needing some trim). The new PA plane confirmed what I already knew; it has a great future as a hanger queen unless I decide to strip off the great multitude of paint and refinish it. And for the most part, folks got sunburned, laughed and had a great time.
As usual, a complete success and a ton of fun. I also found out that Scott Riese's floor is very confortable (with the use of an air mattress - ;D ) and that hanging out at the local sports bar was a very good time even if Mark Scarborough and I were dead tired. Scott's a great host and a great guy.
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I rode with Howard, and forgot my camera. But I think Howard had his along. I didn't forget anything else...like the horizontal 8, for which I seem to have a penchant for skipping. I woulda got PP's, if they'd still been passing them out... LL~ But I pulled off a pretty fair flight for me, so I was pretty happy.
As I judged Expert, I didn't look at the Expert scoreboard, but the 25 points less was a bit of sticker shock! I'd been thinking that the judges (thanks!) were pretty mean, but the 25 points explains it. It'll take awhile to get used to the lower scores, but I'm ok with the no PP's rules. There's no more double jeopardy, and arguments mostly eliminated.
The pulltest rules worked ok, too. I may have ruffled Richard's feathers, when I axed (sic) him how he made the chart (a fine idea, OBTW!). The simple and quick way to get the pulltest calculated is to multiply the weight in ounces by .625! The on-field weighing wasn't a huge deal, but made the PTO (Pull Test Officer) do a lot more walking. Having a team of two would have made it a lot easier and faster. Most elected to hang their plane by one or both LO's, but some did hang from the tailwheel or stooge loop. NOT a problem. It would help a lot if the scale reads out in ounces or pounds and tenths (some do & some have optional settings). I really, truly, wasn't trying to be a PITA, Richard! I was just wondering, for information sake, being a CD, and likely CD of the Roundup in August/September. H^^ Steve
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I took a few, and as usual don't have names to go with the faces. I'll post the pics and the guilty parties can stake their claim to fame - or be outed by their friends and fellow fliers.
It was a great way to spend a week-end away from home- even if Sat was in a sleep deprived zombie like state. I spent most of Sunday down at the Carrier deck - I really enjoyed that and it got the juices flowing even more to get to work on my 20 year old Sturdi-Built Martin AM-1 Mauler project!
Here is what I know / remember of the pics below
1. The hardworking Chief Cook - bottle washer/ Preisdent / CD and some of his loyal staff catch some shade
2. Prep for a combat match
3. Un-timely end to the combat final- both planes descending vertically- check the streamers! A lucky shot if I ever took one.
4. Carrier prep for the profile class Seafire- love the graceful lines of this plane, and flew really good!
5. Seafire in slow flight- amazing watching that thing in slow flight, rising and falling at a snails pace around the circle.
6. An example of some of the beautiful PA planes that were flown
7. PA judging on Sunday
8. The awards
I want to give a big "Atta-boy" to the club, the contest was relaxed, fun, and well run.
I will take credit for the weather- I promised I would bring some FL / AZ sunshine with me. I was not there Friday- ask the gang what that was like!
I showed up Sat via Phoenix from New Mexico and all was right with the weather gods! ( Hey what do you expect from a rank beginner- flying wise, not smelling - who didn't even bring a plane!)
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I had so much fun this week end Leo and I went back out today a flew some more. There where eight flyer's. TWO brought out planes that have never been in the air. AND the flyer's..there first time in 40 years!
Jim...We really don't get 25 MPH winds at Delta Park. If we do it's 20 degrees or over 95 because of the Columbia river gorge. YES the trees do play with the planes...However, when it's a washing machine out there GO HOME!!
Randy thank you so much...it was lots-o-fun.
TO THE NW FIREBALLS.....First....I had fun. A good contest. With some speed bumps that can be ironed out you all did a great job. STUNT went super and you had a good turn out. Geoff...I hope your felling better...you had lots of people worried.
The weather Gods blessed us Light breeze and 80 degrees on Sunday.
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Here are a few pictures. John Thompson will have a complete report in the next few days at flyinglines.org.
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"I may have ruffled Richard's feathers"
Steve, my feathers aren't ruffled. I'm sorry if I gave that impresion. When I'm wound up tight at a contest I come across that way, sorry. My logic for using a Pull Test Chart is that there is no need for someone to be using a calculator on the stage line after the plane is weighed. Find the weight of the plane on the chart and next to it is the pull test force. The poor pit guy already had his hands full with a weighing scale and a pull test scale. Having to do one or two calculation on the line looks like error time to me.
Thanks for judging expert. If it wasn't for guys like Steve and the others who step up and take on the tough job of judging, contests just wouldn't happen. It would be just one big fun fly without you guys. Thanks again to all of you who judged at our contest.
Later
Richard
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I'll post some pictures here as soon as I get my computer up and running again. I'm installing a new OS and ran into some problems. What I get for going with the bleeding edge stuff.
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wow, any my new vista OS loaded fast and simple,, boy, glad your a linux kinda guy,, grin,,
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All my stunt pictures seem to be of Randy's planes.
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I guess I don't know how to post multiple pictures. I'll try some more.
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Bill, I'm the fat guy on the left watching the combat collision. It looks like the plane with the red LE got a kill, but the string didn't break. Had it broken, I'd be the Portland Spring Tuneup 80 MPH Combat champion.
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Howard...
Those photos you shot of Randy's new work of art models are BEEEEEEUUUUT'S!
Keep those stories and great photos coming.
(I am not having much luck with my teenie cheapie little Fugifilm J150W 10.0pixie handme down camera. Seems like I have to unlearn a lifetime of film knowledge and have entered some straaaaaaaaaaaange new world of photography~ n~
Now that I think about it Howard...I wonder if anyone checked that unbroken string? A few years ago before the NEW AGE fibers such as Spectra-Kevlar...With that in mind?
Perhaps you'd be the new "Portland Spring Tuneup 80 MPH Combat Champion of 2009? LL~ #^
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Shultzie,
Get a good look at the PA toad. It's in for a makeover. The profile, on the other hand, will get flown. A lot.
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Now Howard- don't go saying you are fat, you're profile closely matches my own- and I keep telling my wife that living on the road and eating out everyday is good for me!
It is amazing that the string on the other plane didn't break- it looks like it is wrapped around your prop.
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Coming in dead last in Classic doesn't bother me a bit! Especially since I opted to bring a new plane with some significant trim problems. I have planes which are all trimmed out, but what's the challenge in that?
At least I got a couple good flights in OTS with my sparkie Orwick 64 WILDMAN 60, making lots of noise!
Floyd
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"I may have ruffled Richard's feathers"
Steve, my feathers aren't ruffled. I'm sorry if I gave that impresion. When I'm wound up tight at a contest I come across that way, sorry. My logic for using a Pull Test Chart is that there is no need for someone to be using a calculator on the stage line after the plane is weighed. Find the weight of the plane on the chart and next to it is the pull test force. The poor pit guy already had his hands full with a weighing scale and a pull test scale. Having to do one or two calculation on the line looks like error time to me.
Thanks for judging expert. If it wasn't for guys like Steve and the others who step up and take on the tough job of judging, contests just wouldn't happen. It would be just one big fun fly without you guys. Thanks again to all of you who judged at our contest.
Later
Richard
Richard...the CHART is essential...in fact, our own Dave Gardner came up with a "bracketed chart", which groups models that weigh between x oz. and y oz., to be weighed to the nearest 5 pounds. Theory being that the pull test scale is only accurately operated to about that amount of accuracy anyway...the scale maybe, but the actual operation being the problem. He might just be right, too. Something to think about, anyway.
I meant to bring a doggie cookie for your little pooch...but didn't. My apologies to him/her. H^^ Steve