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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Garf on July 16, 2014, 05:20:22 PM

Title: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Garf on July 16, 2014, 05:20:22 PM
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Near-Collision-Between-Drone-And-Helicopter-Rattles-Pilots-267400371.html
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: kenneth cook on July 16, 2014, 06:01:26 PM
          This one was in Philadelphia.          https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=690686131001524&set=vb.513140418756097&type=2&theater
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Jim Roselle on July 16, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
 
          This one was in Philadelphia.          https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=690686131001524&set=vb.513140418756097&type=2&theater
LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 16, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
Ok.....

1) There are dozens of close-calls and near-collisions PER DAY in NAS between manned aircraft.  Those don't make the news...

2) Any time there is a manned/unmanned incursion, initial blame is almost ALWAYS placed on the unmanned platform for some reason. Sitting in an aircraft makes a pilot no more safe then when he is operating from the ground.  Of all of the Hazardous Aircraft Reports that I have seen/read in my 10 years, NINETY NINE PERCENT of the incidences are the fault of the manned pilot being in the wrong place, not communicating, or otherwise not following the rules.  From what I've read regarding this latest "incident", the "I'm an innocent pilot trying to dodge the evil robot airplanes" routine doesn't hold up.

3) Despite the "Fantastic Aviation Administration"'s best planning, regulating, and rule making, mid-air collisions between manned and unmanned aircraft, unfortunately, WILL happen.  Accidents will occur, planes will collide, and people will get killed.  While that prediction sounds macabre and genuinely is tragic, that has been the story of aviation since before the Wright Brothers got off the ground.  If you don't have one, get a copy of the FAR-AIM (Federal Aviation Regulations/Aeronautical Information Handbook) and flip through it.  Just about every regulation in that book is there because somebody's death pointed out a need for it. The same is going to be true in the countless rule/regulation revisions that will take place in the next 15 or so years as UAS is integrated into the NAS. It's not going to be , by any means, quick and painless...

4)...or fast. First Wright Brothers' flight was in 1903.  The first pilots license wasn't issued until 1927.  I imagine the regulation lag will be shorter, but there will still be untrained, uneducated yahoos flying their creations around willy-nilly just as their great grandfathers did 100 years ago.

....so can we stop going nuts every time one of these "stories" pop up on the "news"??
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: 55chevr on July 16, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
The stories are posted because they are news that concern all of us.   The potential for additional restrictive legislation is great as we can all be
"painted with the same brush".
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 16, 2014, 09:02:13 PM
The stories are posted because they are news that concern all of us.   The potential for additional restrictive legislation is great as we can all be
"painted with the same brush".

 See #4

Also, part of the word "news" is the word "new". This looks like every other such story to me...
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Mike Keville on July 16, 2014, 09:13:02 PM
All of which is nearly guaranteed to raise temperatures at the Academy of Multirotors and ARFs.
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Dan McEntee on July 17, 2014, 01:09:23 AM
    Quadcopters ain't nothin'! Wait until them terrorists start taking over those Google driver-less cars! Land based "drones"!!!!!
    This all to shall pass.
     Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: RC Storick on July 17, 2014, 02:53:10 AM
I am way more afraid of our government than any guys that are sitting in caves.
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 17, 2014, 12:50:41 PM
I am way more afraid of our government than any guys that are sitting in caves.

Those "guys that are sitting in caves" are more tech and computer savvy then most people in our government.
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: dave siegler on July 17, 2014, 02:36:44 PM
so when I watched the video, something hit me.


5 lb quad copter vs 2000 lb news chopper over my house.  I will take the multi rotor all day.  Choppers crash all the time.

the chopper pilot said the quad nearly hit it but chased it anyway.

If the chopper pilot felt he was in danger why did he follow it?  

The mult rotor guy was avoiding and trying to get to the ground.

While the multi rotor guy is clearly in the wrong he is flying in the wrong place at the wrong time, but he made better decisions that the news chopper crew.

Ban news choppers. 

The chopper pilot was not very responsible.  



Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Dwayne on July 17, 2014, 07:08:53 PM
I am way more afraid of our government than any guys that are sitting in caves.

X10
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 17, 2014, 11:09:39 PM
X10

    I'd be more worried about this...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-plane-disappears-over-ukraine-feared-shot-down-by-missile/2014/07/17/0fffe1e6-0dcb-11e4-8341-b8072b1e7348_story.html
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: 55chevr on July 18, 2014, 03:54:26 AM
While this a concern as the former Soviet Union doesn't care who they sell munitions to, I doubt that will result in an FAA reg that restricts model airplane flying.
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 18, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
While this a concern as the former Soviet Union doesn't care who they sell munitions to, I doubt that will result in an FAA reg that restricts model airplane flying.

 HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~>
Title: Re: Another Drone Incident
Post by: John Stiles on July 18, 2014, 01:09:15 PM
I am way more afraid of our government than any guys that are sitting in caves.
Hail yeah...you and me both.