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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Paul Taylor on January 19, 2025, 10:24:52 AM
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We were sitting around between flights with Jim Barry and the topic of Ambroid glue came up. Jim said he had a guy for that.
So if you like Ambroid glue or still want use it here is the source.
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The free flight guys are using it.
Here is the email that Jim received from the guy that’s making it.
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This is as close to ambroid as i have been able to concoct..
https://www.indoorffsupply.com/shop/fine-tip-glue-applicator-5oz
It is slightly thinner than Ambroid since i am not putting it in foil tubes, but as long as you have an applicator (https://www.indoorffsupply.com/shop/fine-tip-glue-applicator-5oz) you like, its so much like Ambroid you wlll never know the difference.
David Lindley
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It very similar to the fletching glue that traditional archers use to glue the feather on when building arrows. It's been available for a long time, and most cities have some sort of archery shop that carry things like this. Volare products has been selling a similar product also. I still have my stash of original Ambroid in the big tubes and have been using it.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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How does Ambroid compare to Sigment? About the same formulation? I heard that there is a product available from places like Aircraft Spruce. It is used for attaching covering (Ceconite?) to structures like homebuilt aircraft or other fabric covered aircraft. I do not know the name of it. Has anyone else heard of this?
If Sig is coming back, maybe the Sigment returns. I do not have high hopes for that since not enough demand due to the low number of people actually building anymore.
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Try this link:
https://www.indoorffsupply.com/shop/nice-indoor-model-cement-4oz
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Try this link:
https://www.indoorffsupply.com/shop/nice-indoor-model-cement-4oz
That’s it. Thanks!
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How does Ambroid compare to Sigment? About the same formulation? I heard that there is a product available from places like Aircraft Spruce. It is used for attaching covering (Ceconite?) to structures like homebuilt aircraft or other fabric covered aircraft. I do not know the name of it. Has anyone else heard of this?
If Sig is coming back, maybe the Sigment returns. I do not have high hopes for that since not enough demand due to the low number of people actually building anymore.
SIGment is WAY different from Ambroid, in both smell and substance!! I have seen people compare Sigment to Duco Household Cement. Some don't think Sigment is as good but mileage may vary. We always had tothin Ambroid for building indoor models anyway, so this product from Indoor F/F Supply is more in line what they need anyway.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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WAY back, I built a Starduster X FF model with Sigment...well, I started with Sigment. I double glued all the joints in a wing panel, but when I took it off the building board, it all fell apart. I reassembled it with Ambroid and was a happy camper. Never used Sigment again, and never will. D>K Steve
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Before the stuff from Indoor FF Supply came around, this was supposedly the 'go to' stuff for old Ambroid addicts....
https://volare-products.myshopify.com/products/vps-am-droid-cement
I was never much of a Ambroid user so I can't comment on how close it is to the original. Maybe one of you guys can try it and let us know.
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In retrospect, Testors was the basic glue and Ambroid was the higher-priced upgrade.
But maybe we just believed that because Ambroid had better advertising.
Later on, Elmers came into favor and has been, for me at least, replaced by Titebond II.
Of course, epoxy for high stress and Hot Stuff when you're in a hurry.
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I guess that it is just what one is used to and for preference sake. Seems to have a larger use with the ultra lightweight rubber powered modelers.
Back in the 1960's and 1970's, I used Ambroid, Sigment, Testors, Duco, Comet, I think Pactra and a few others that escape my attention.
Latter times, being older and more patient, better time managing, resorted to the carpenter water based glues. Found that they work in situations even where I used to resort to Epoxy for like in bulkhead firewall ply, maybe except for the most demanding cases, or where the glue is unsuitable for. Plus, it is easier to clean off the hands.
But I thank the OP for posting this, bookmarked that website. I have a stash of rubber powered stick and tissue kits, may have a go at them later on. When I was younger, they were a joy to build.
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It's worth mentioning that Dave Lindley at Indoor FF Model Supply is a super guy, and was an integral part of making last summer's CLWC a success.
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It's worth mentioning that Dave Lindley at Indoor FF Model Supply is a super guy, and was an integral part of making last summer's CLWC a success.
AMEN!!!
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Has anyone done a real test comparison between Ambroid and Sigment? Coat your right index finger with Ambroid and your left with Sigment. Let dry. Now, which is the better "chew"? :P
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The last time I used Ambroid was in the 70s, right before I quit the hobby. When I returned in the late 90s, I could not find Ambroid, so I used Sigment. I never had any problems with Sigment. It works well for me. I can't remember having any issues with Ambroid, either. I guess both taste about the same. LOL.
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SIGment is WAY different from Ambroid, in both smell and substance!! I have seen people compare Sigment to Duco Household Cement. Some don't think Sigment is as good but mileage may vary. We always had tothin Ambroid for building indoor models anyway, so this product from Indoor F/F Supply is more in line what they need anyway.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
If you needed to thin Ambroid, you would really need to thin SIGMENT/DUCO/UHU. The smell is definitely different than Ambroid, and the plastic is different - I think Ambroid is nitrocellulose and SIGMENT/DUCO/UHU is polystyrene or some harder plastic.
I always used Ambroid, because that's all I was allowed to use. Later I used the others, they are all pretty OK for what they are good for, but not really something I would consider for general construction.
Brett