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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: peabody on March 30, 2011, 04:13:44 PM

Title: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: peabody on March 30, 2011, 04:13:44 PM
Helluva job! The Academy sent surveys to Leader Members.....due back at the mother ship by 28 March. I got mine today....I can understand if they don't care about me, but another LM that I know called me last night saying that he had received his yesterday (the 29th)...

And we wonder why they can't cut the grass.....
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: Trostle on March 30, 2011, 05:06:21 PM
Now, for the rest of the story that Mr. Peabody may not bother to explain.

The same day I got the AMA survey, I received the following e-mail.

quote:

Date:     March 28, 2011

TO:         AMA Leader Members
FR:          AMA Public Relations
                publicrelations@modelaircraft.org
RE:          Leader Member survey

May we have your forgiveness, please? A US mail survey was recently sent to you from AMA Headquarters with an incorrect return date of March 28. Please disregard that. We value your opinions very much and hope that you will return the completed survey in the postage-paid envelope at your earliest convenience. Apologies for the miscommunication.

Unquote.

"Things hapen."  Whatever the problem was, the AMA recognized it and has attempted to make things right.

Keith

Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 30, 2011, 07:46:23 PM
That sounds Very un-peabody to not give us all the details..  ::)
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: Brett Buck on March 30, 2011, 07:55:51 PM
That sounds Very un-peabody to not give us all the details..  ::)

   An oversight, no doubt.

    Brett
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: Marvin Denny on March 30, 2011, 08:18:06 PM
  I got the same notification.  Done filled mine out and mailed it back.
  Perhaps AMA doesn't have Mr Peabody's correct E-Mail address.

 Bigiron
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: peabody on March 30, 2011, 08:45:48 PM
they must have forgotten to send my friend and I the email...

I found it amusing...
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 30, 2011, 09:53:46 PM
No doubt..
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: Hoss Cain on March 30, 2011, 10:10:57 PM
Now, for the rest of the story that Mr. Peabody may not bother to explain.

The same day I got the AMA survey, I received the following e-mail.
quote:

Date:     March 28, 2011

TO:         AMA Leader Members
FR:          AMA Public Relations
                publicrelations@modelaircraft.org
RE:          Leader Member survey

May we have your forgiveness, please? A US mail survey was recently sent to you from AMA Headquarters with an incorrect return date of March 28. Please disregard that. We value your opinions very much and hope that you will return the completed survey in the postage-paid envelope at your earliest convenience. Apologies for the miscommunication.

Unquote.

"Things hapen."  Whatever the problem was, the AMA recognized it and has attempted to make things right.

Keith

Well Keith, Old Buddy from many years ago, let me tell you just why you received that Notice of Recognition

My mail arrived in the late AM of the 28th. I fired this email back and then the next AM AMA's  "Recognition" was dispersed.

>>>>>>>>>>>
TO: rustylm@verizon.net

Copy: jhager@modelaircraft.org, dmathewson@mindspring.com, District8VP@SATX.RR.Com, pwillcox@mac.com


Leader Member Survey, March 28, 2011.

Dear Mr. Rusty Kennedy: et.al.

Congratulations on being selected as the current Leader Member Committee Chairman. I am certain that you take your responsibilities seriously.
 
On the other hand, perhaps you are asking the impossible. Your letter came today with a Leader Member Survey. You asked for it to be returned, "....by March 28." If that request was for year, 2012, perhaps you should have stated such. However if it was for this 2011 I think you may presume the impossible. Not being a US Marine, that is not within my ability.

Why cannot I do as you requested? Mainly because your request was mailed at ZIP 47302 (coincides with the AMA ZIP) on 03-25-2011. It arrived at my mailbox on March 28, 2011. Now can you conceive of a clue why it will not arrive back on this very day, 03-28-2011? You may need to consider that mailing a USPO mail letter on a Friday and asking for a return on the next Monday is rather like a hallucination, you know that item defined as a perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder of the nervous system, or just simply an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion, a delusion.

Now to further your agitation, as an AMA Leader Member (LM) since March 1964, in my opinion, your Survey is very amateurish. To me, this "survey" displays a perception of an AMA Leader Member as an individual possessing not more than a two-digit intelligence quotient (IQ). Now that IQ may well be adequate to be a Leader Member, however I do not think it is descriptive of the vast majority of LMs.

Just to provide you with some background, there was a period that anyone becoming a Contest Director, held a Sanctioned Contest, and submitted a proper report was offered Leader Member status one year later. I became a CD in early 1963, did a "AA" FF and CL event. One year later I was offered and accepted Leader Membership.

Now back in the late '80s AMA President Don Lowe and interim Technical Director Bob Underwood decided to purge the ranks of Leader Members. When I was notified of the action, I called Underwood. He was in a tither, and neither he or Lowe could find the reason so many CDs received LM a year after their first event. Now after reading the past two sentences, do you have a clue just who directed him to the document authorizing such? Yes, I did it. Very easy, and in plain view. Well, yes it wasn't long before the EC changed all that. HA!

However you may still find Leaders that are the result of the old days and have no real interest in being one other than the membership status. That is one possible reason that AMA gets so little response from "Leaders". In my not-so-humble opinion, I think the EC likes these LMs simply because they seldom take any interest in AMA Politics, vote as the EC wishes, when they might vote, and simply are not a source to question anything AMA does or wishes to do.

I will answer your Survey with suitable remarks where it does not contain a suitable answer. It won't be there today.
I have already CDed one event this year, flown in another one, and belong to 4 major clubs in SE Texas. Jetero RC Huffman TX, which I made possible for them to own 50 acres of flat prime farmland, Bomber Field, Monoville, TX, the ARF RC Club (Always Ready to FLY), Livingston, TX and Bayou City Flyers, sw Houston, TX. I think that is above the normal interest whether anyone else does or not. HA!

Sincerely
Horrace Cain AMA L-93
31619 Bohlssen Rd.
New Caney, TX 77357
281-399-5627

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdF2S_au1hM&feature=channel

Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: Bill Mohrbacher on March 31, 2011, 05:01:24 AM
The best part of this thread was hearing from Marvin Denny!  See you at Brodak's this summer Marvin!
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on March 31, 2011, 11:03:33 AM
I'm flattered that the AMA wanted my opinion on anything!  This has to be the first time in 40 years they have asked for my input.  So, I gave them a piece of my mind (what little is left).

F.C.
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: Joe Just on March 31, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
Me too floyd!  I have never been sent any information regaurding any AMA position in the 29  years I have been a Leader member. I too raised a question or two about not ever hearing from our VP.
Joe Just
Title: Re: AMA Leader Member survey
Post by: john e. holliday on March 31, 2011, 04:53:18 PM
Thanks Horace for the explanation of how we became leader members.   I got my CD license back when you had to have three CD's sign the form for you.  Ran several club meets, been an assistant event director and finally event director at the NATS for racing and carrier.  So I guess I had better get in gear and fill out the form.    D>K