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Title: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Alan Hahn on September 22, 2008, 01:57:19 PM
We had great weather yesterday for Jim Renkar's Its only a hobby 1/2 a contest. We fly 1/2A stunt in the morning and 1/2A race in the afternoon.

Here's the action from the 4th heat of yesterday's 1/2A Coxy Hazel Race.

[youtube=425,350]uiu63cKg27U[/youtube]


The rules are that you must fly a "stock" 1/2A Skyray (the "Hazel" part), and it must be powered by a Cox Reed Valve engine using an integral tank from a BlackWidow or Golden Bee engine (the "Coxy" part). You must start the engine by hand flipping---no spring or electric starters allowed.

The race is 100 laps on 35 foot 0.012 lines (supplied by organizers) using Sig 15% Champion fuel (also supplied by organizers).

You can see it is a hoot. Fred Krueger organizes the race and probably will chime in with the final times and winners.

Also one can't let this event go by without commenting on the food supplied by Rich Tupper---Biscuits, Gravy and eggs in the morning followed by pulled pork sandwiches with corn on the cob for lunch. Rich actually arrived at the site at 1AM and setup his smoker.
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: fred krueger on September 22, 2008, 09:25:39 PM
Here are the final results for the Coxy-Hazel 100 lap 1/2A sport race:

Rich Tupper (Bill Smith-pilot) - 5:41.07
Fred Krueger (Alan Hahn - pitman) - 6:03.87
Mike Schmitt (Dennis VanderKuur, pitman) - 6:18.73
Jim Schuett (Bill Calkins, pitman) - 6:29.07
Glenn Lee (Jim Schuett, pilot) - 7:26.19
Dennis VanderKuur (Mike Schmitt, pilot) - 7:39.02
Alan Hahn (Fred Krueger, pitman) - 8:06.15
Larry Lindburg (Floyd Layton, pilot) - 9:48.25
Bill Calkins (Jim Schuett, pitman) - 12:14.87
Art Johnson (Bill Calkins, pilot) - 79 laps
Floyd Layton (Larry Lindburg, pitman) - 49 laps
Bill Smith (? pitman) - 47 laps

I should be posting (YouTube) more video in a couple days. I recorded 5 or 6 stunt flights and 3 of the 4 racing heats.

Alan forgot to mention that Rich also smoked a beef brisket which was unbelievable!

Fred
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Alan Hahn on September 23, 2008, 08:06:39 AM
I knew I left out something!
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Michael Boucher on September 23, 2008, 09:23:36 AM
Looks like tons of fun.  Good man Rich, 1am, amazing :o
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: john e. holliday on September 23, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
That looks like too much fun to pass up.  May have to try it here in my part of the country.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: fred krueger on September 29, 2008, 02:31:46 PM
Here's part 1 of a short video on the entire contest, starting with breakfast, then a morning of 1/2A stunt:

Fred
[youtube=425,350]PazRfz_BLb4[/youtube]



Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Bill Smith on September 29, 2008, 05:56:54 PM
keep the pics coming guys.
show em the trophy's
most fun I have all year
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Jeffrey Olijar on September 29, 2008, 06:13:34 PM
this may be a stupid question but I thought you were supposed to run 25 to 35% with the cox .049 engines?  I am curious what props were used as well.
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Alan Hahn on September 29, 2008, 06:18:33 PM
this may be a stupid question but I thought you were supposed to run 25 to 35% with the cox .049 engines?  I am curious what props were used as well.

For our racing we use 15% nitro (Sig) and it works just fine. In the race I used an APC 5.7x3 since my Black Widow isn't a real high rev'er. If it hadn't been for my down line snagging the top of Bill Calkin's hat when I tried to pass him, I would have done a bit better.

For Stunt, the popular engine is the Norvel Big Mig 049.
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: fred krueger on September 29, 2008, 08:22:51 PM
Jeff,

We allowed commercial props (no fiberglass or carbon fiber) of 5x3 to 6x3 with any size in between.  I will be posting more of the race.  You can readily see how well the Cox engines run on 15% nitro.

Fred

Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: fred krueger on September 29, 2008, 09:31:45 PM
Here's the rest of the expert fliers.  I was unable to record the advanced guys since I was judging.  Also included is a short take of Rich Tupper's cooking area.  Parts 3 and 4 will have my shots of the racing action.

Fred
[youtube=425,350]NvpZcYNR26Q[/youtube]
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: fred krueger on September 30, 2008, 08:53:11 PM
Here's the first 2 heats of the 1/2A 'Coxy-Hazel' sport race:

[youtube=425,350]W38T5YvipcM[/youtube]

Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Alan Hahn on October 01, 2008, 03:45:58 PM
Hmm, that cap clipping and smackdown occurred at 3:32 into the movie cost me 1:35 (took off again @4:58). So if that hadn't happened I would have had a time @6:21---still out of the money at 4th fastest. So I still need some more speed!
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Alan Hahn on October 03, 2008, 09:00:37 PM
Some club wimps (  LL~) think we should go to 40-42 foot lines to slow down the lap time in the Coxy Hazel race (which will increase the total time of course). For those of you who participated, what do you think? Would you like to slow down the lap speeds?
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Dennis Vander Kuur on October 04, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
Alan,
The short lines are OK with me VD~. I was smart (devious) enough to quickly choose to be the pitman for my races. I knew that if I had to run around in the center circle fast for 100 laps that I'd be laying dead on the ground. Even my relatively younger designated pilot, Mike Schmitt, got pretty winded by the end of the race. Us old f_rts are finding it's getting harder and harder to keep up with you young whipper-snappers n~.
DennisV
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Alan Hahn on October 04, 2008, 05:00:01 PM
We just need to train Mike to stop walking backwards during the race--it's equivalent to whipping!

One object of this event is to let the poor PA pilots actually have some fun for a change, so it is important to make everyone happy!
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Bill Smith on October 05, 2008, 08:23:17 AM
That race is the only exercise I get each year. we need to go to shorter lines, say 30 ft. and MORE NITRO.
Just kidding I don't know if I could live though that.
Keep it the way it is.
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: john e. holliday on October 05, 2008, 06:36:37 PM
Alan, the longer lines sound like a good suggestion.  All that is needed is a little more tip weight.  It would also give them more time to learn what racing is about with three up.  Having fun,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Action from It's Only a Hobby Coxy Hazel Race
Post by: Larry Lindburg on October 08, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
How about 60 foot lines and a couple bottles of oxygen?