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Title: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Air Ministry . on February 05, 2017, 05:11:18 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411gl79t2aL._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

Not a bad read , if a bit long winded . Griffon ( Big Block ) Spitfires .
Flight Anaylisis / Performance , and foibles of the vasrious models , mark by mark . And Seafires .
Other Half seems to be multitudinal pilot accounts / action etc etc .

So for the technically inclined , or those intrested in Aerodynamic Dynamics , engineering , and durability / development ,
Itsa notta too a the bad , eh .

From the Library , of course . A E book comes up on google , if your that way inclined .
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on February 05, 2017, 01:08:32 PM
I have a WWII copy of the Spitfire Pilot's Manual.  In addition to showing the location of all the cockpit controls, it has a section related to the peculiarities of the Spit.  One advised, in case the landing gear doesn't come down properly, to attain altitude and perform a "Split-S" maneuver.  This is supposed to generate enough "G" force to pull the gear down.
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Richard Logston on February 05, 2017, 06:40:48 PM
Floyd, Did it say to have lot's of altitude before doing a split S? Back when I was learning aerobatics in my single place Starduster I split S out of my first slow roll and lost allot of altitude and pushed close to redline. Richard
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Skip Chernoff on February 06, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
Might be a good time to look at Joe Adamusko's Seafires and Spitfires...enjoy! PhillySkip
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Bill Johnson on February 07, 2017, 06:31:12 AM
Might be a good time to look at Joe Adamusko's Seafires and Spitfires...enjoy! PhillySkip

Looks like the first one would be Griffon powered by the bulge at the exhausts.

I have a Walter Umland Spitfire kit waiting for my building and flying skills to come up to the task.
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on February 07, 2017, 10:07:15 AM
When it comes to scale exhaust stacks, this one is about as far from scale as you can get.  These exhaust stacks were salvaged from a smaller model, and are laughingly small!  Fortunately, it doesn't detract from flying.
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Bill Johnson on February 07, 2017, 01:15:11 PM
It's still a great looking plane, Floyd.

The Spitfire is my favorite plane, by far. I think I have 6 models of it waiting to be built, from CL to 1:72 plastic.
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Skip Chernoff on February 07, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
Bill I think Joe's Spitfires and Seafires were built in collaboration with "Windy". One of them is powered by a .90! They fly beautifully!....PhillySkip


Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Chris McMillin on February 21, 2017, 09:56:38 PM
It's still a great looking plane, Floyd.

The Spitfire is my favorite plane, by far. I think I have 6 models of it waiting to be built, from CL to 1:72 plastic.

I hear ya, Bill. I've got flying, pladtic, foam , Seafires, Spitefuls, Sea Fangs, Spitfire float planes, so many models of the gorgeous Spitfire.

If I win the lottery my friend in England said he'd restore me his Attacker wing, we'd convert it to boil off reservoir for a Griffin Unlimited racer Spiteful hybrid!
Chris...
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Air Ministry . on February 24, 2017, 06:28:43 PM
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If I win the lottery my friend in England said he'd restore me his Attacker wing, we'd convert it to boil off reservoir for a Griffin Unlimited racer Spiteful hybrid!
Chris...

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBB02gS83vqej1ttyUidUV9KeczeeeN3AqmvL3-Q7C5O-WdYH2)

Think the " Hawker Spitfire " cooling system might be the trick !

A Mk 18 fuse , teardrop canopy , intermediate size empenagge , and the attacker wings ( Gimme ) would likely be ' the most efficent ' Reno Racer
( as its smaller area would be adquate in turns , as would the ailerons , at those speeds . Build in a bit of washout though . S?P )
one could come up with , which is why I was going to scour Pakistan for some Attacker wings , as there were a few there once .

A Napier Sabre might be a hotter set up though , as late series got 3050 Hp .Thing Above got about 485 with full military equipment ,

(http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Spiteful014.jpg)

(http://www.adam-lisa.supanet.com/images/Seafang/seafa3.jpg)
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Chris McMillin on February 24, 2017, 10:45:01 PM
Boil off is the best, easily lowest drag and with the latest tech well controlled.
Griffons aren't the best race engine but I like them and good for 3200 hp. The contra-props off of the Shackelton have at least proven to be fast in modern terms with proper shaping of the blades.
Smallest stab, man. Low wetted area , adequate vertical area with a Sea Fang vertical and ventral fins.
Griffon Tempest and Tornados are good looking though air cooling is no way to race a liquid cooled engine these days.
Chris...
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Trostle on February 25, 2017, 05:45:20 PM

Griffons aren't the best race engine but I like them and good for 3200 hp. The contra-props off of the Shackelton have at least proven to be fast in modern terms with proper shaping of the blades.

Chris...

Hey Chris,

I can't wait to see you in a Spiteful. 

Keith
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Air Ministry . on February 27, 2017, 10:26:15 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/1-N17-01-001.jpg)

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Speed-Spitfire-1.jpg)

(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/xplane/speedspit/speed-6.jpg)
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Air Ministry . on February 27, 2017, 10:33:19 PM
ETC .

(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af225/Sacktime_2010/Spitfire%20XIVe/WIP25_zpsxfuccqeo.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdaeropress.com/images/Cleveland1949/Race80Spitfire01.jpg)

If anyones stuck for a paint scheme ,

(http://www.britmodeller.com/reviews/thunderbird/72/racingspits/racingspit2.jpg)

(https://cdn2.cdnme.se/28197/9-3/15977144_10155638379623881_3057136719367686662_n_587dea26e087c310bd64003c.jpg)
Title: Re: ACHTUNG Spitfire .
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on February 28, 2017, 11:50:24 AM
I have the Brodak Spitfire waiting to be built and I live just outside of Edmonton, Alberta.  I have looked at this particular paint scheme for some time now but couldn't figure out the colours....you just solved that for me!  Thanks! H^^