Author Topic: A good day at the field (Read 4051 times)

RC Storick · « **on:** May 13, 2013, 10:15:42 PM »

There were 4 of us today at the field, Light winds and some good trimming sessions. Ted Winterman got his engine runs sorted out and I got 8 flights in on my new plane. Its coming around lots of elbow grease and some touch up and I think it will be fine at building 180 this year. Photo's courtesy of Ted

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2013, 10:34:13 PM »

So, you kept all the smoke in the wires?

How do you like electron power so far? Too quiet, huh?

Steve

Douglas Ames · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2013, 10:38:21 PM »

The added "Yeller" looks good! Perfect finishing touch.

RC Storick · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2013, 10:45:39 PM »

Quote from: Steve Helmick on May 13, 2013, 10:34:13 PM

So, you kept all the smoke in the wires? How do you like electron power so far? Too quiet, huh? Steve

The smoke stayed in today. Electric is different for sure. I am just getting use to it now.

afml · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2013, 04:58:17 AM »

"I think it will be fine at building 187"

AWESOME job on the new plane!
SUPER CONGRATS!
If not mistaken, Appearance Judging is usually at Building 180.

"Tight Lines!"

Wes

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2013, 05:09:58 AM »

Looking Great Sparky!

Can't wait to see it! And maybe launch it for ya.

RC Storick · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2013, 09:16:42 PM »

Last of my batteries came today. Now I have 12. I think that will be enough for a good day of flying.

RC Storick · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:28:59 PM »

Another trim day at the field. I put in 4 flights between flights at our speed contest today. I have been rubbing on my plane getting it ready for building 180. I think it shines pretty good. I needed to steam the wing. Slight warp and I think I got it out now. I will try again tomorrow. Picture by Ted with wrong date on his camera.

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2013, 09:01:20 PM »

Looking good boss.

James Mills · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2013, 09:20:06 PM »

Hey Sparky, how about a pic of what Ted is flying.

James

RC Storick · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2013, 09:38:39 PM »

Quote from: James Mills on May 18, 2013, 09:20:06 PM

Hey Sparky, how about a pic of what Ted is flying.

James

I don't think he took one of himself or his plane. Sorry

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2013, 07:26:51 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on May 18, 2013, 09:38:39 PM

I don't think he took one of himself or his plane. Sorry

Robert that's because Ted knows its bad luck to photograph your airplane!!! Your ship does look great. Hope you can undo that photo-spell thing...

Dave

Larry Renger · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2013, 11:38:06 AM »

Nope, failure to photograph your model before the first flight will guarantee at least some visible damage, if not total destruction.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2013, 05:44:54 PM »

Quote from: Larry Renger on May 19, 2013, 11:38:06 AM

Nope, failure to photograph your model before the first flight will guarantee at least some visible damage, if not total destruction.

It is an old fighter pilot's superstition that goes back to WW-1, to never have your photo taken with your airplane. It held true with lots of WW-1 pilots, including Baron Von Richthofen, who refused all requests for photo ops, until just before the sortie in which he was killed. I read this in a book long time ago, and still have the book. I ought to reread it again someday.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2013, 05:55:09 PM »

Quote from: Larry Renger on May 19, 2013, 11:38:06 AM

Nope, failure to photograph your model before the first flight will guarantee at least some visible damage, if not total destruction.

I have two airplane carcass that testify to that,, no pictures,, not more airplane,, both within a few flights like less than 5,,

now I always take a picture at the field before I fly it,,

as to WW1 pilots,, agreed, do not get your picture taken with the plane before you fly, now after,, thats ok,,

RC Storick · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2013, 07:45:51 PM »

Another trimming session was today (sunday) Gary Hajek and Dan McEntee were there to help. Gary spotted a slight twist in my stabilizer and I steamed that out when I got home. I was having a weird power issue so I stopped off at Shaffer's Hobby and got a new motor. I have went through the whole wiring system and re soldered everything. Weather permitting try again tomorrow. If not then the next break in the weather should get it really close to trimmed.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2013, 08:15:36 PM »

Yeah, I think you are done trimming until you get more confidant in the power plant. I still have to wonder if you are getting any air over the motor. Even with holes in the spinner back plate, the opening in the front of the fuse is completely blocked off by the spinner. You get no prop thrust through the holes, and the airflow can't change directions around the spinner, then the prop hub, then turn left through the hole. Air is a liquid that takes the path of least resistance, and you have no direct path for air to get to the motor. All you may need to do , if you can, is pull the prop adapter forward, and make a gap between the back plate and the front of the fuse, and see if that helps the situation. You have a better chance of air flowing in the fuse opening there than getting through holes in the back plate, in my opinion. Even with the stab warp, the airplane was looking pretty good, especially at the slower lap time.. Hope to get out some next weekend and just fun fly and we can work on it some more.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

RC Storick · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2013, 09:03:44 PM »

Quote from: Dan McEntee on May 19, 2013, 08:15:36 PM

Yeah, I think you are done trimming until you get more confidant in the power plant. I still have to wonder if you are getting any air over the motor. Even with holes in the spinner back plate, the opening in the front of the fuse is completely blocked off by the spinner. You get no prop thrust through the holes, and the airflow can't change directions around the spinner, then the prop hub, then turn left through the hole. Air is a liquid that takes the path of least resistance, and you have no direct path for air to get to the motor. All you may need to do , if you can, is pull the prop adapter forward, and make a gap between the back plate and the front of the fuse, and see if that helps the situation. You have a better chance of air flowing in the fuse opening there than getting through holes in the back plate, in my opinion. Even with the stab warp, the airplane was looking pretty good, especially at the slower lap time.. Hope to get out some next weekend and just fun fly and we can work on it some more.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Air over the motor is fine. After talking to Will and going over the solder joints I think it will be fine. I think I found the exact spot. Of coarse the new motor won hurt either. I could hold my hand on it after flying so it was not melting.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #18 on:** May 20, 2013, 04:26:00 AM »

Charger,12 batteries, multiple motors, ESCs/timers. So how much have you invested in switching to electric? (if you don't mind me asking)

Derek

RC Storick · « **Reply #19 on:** May 20, 2013, 07:34:55 AM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on May 20, 2013, 04:26:00 AM

Charger,12 batteries, multiple motors, ESCs/timers. So how much have you invested in switching to electric? (if you don't mind me asking)

Derek

This was kind of like my Bike and Snap-on tools. I have no idea and I don't want to know. So sorry I don't know.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #20 on:** May 20, 2013, 08:08:22 AM »

Never divulge the price of your toys. If I could get what everything is worth in the shop I would, well I don't know what I would do.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2013, 08:12:48 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on May 20, 2013, 08:08:22 AM

Never divulge the price of your toys. If I could get what everything is worth in the shop I would, well I don't know what I would do.

John, if your wife knew I'm sure I know what she'd do.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #22 on:** May 20, 2013, 08:26:41 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on May 20, 2013, 07:34:55 AM

This was kind of like my Bike and Snap-on tools. I have no idea and I don't want to know. So sorry I don't know.

I understand, just trying to get an idea of how much it would cost to built an electric ship. I would not waste time or money on the cheap stuff. I would have to know what I was using had been proven and I flew Hunt's so I know it works. IF I did build one I would not be selling any of me PA stuff so it would cost me the full amount.

I guess I could look up all the prices and add it up myself...

Derek

RC Storick · « **Reply #23 on:** May 20, 2013, 08:44:15 AM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on May 20, 2013, 08:26:41 AM

I understand, just trying to get an idea of how much it would cost to built an electric ship. I would not waste time or money on the cheap stuff. I would have to know what I was using had been proven and I flew Hunt's so I know it works. IF I did build on I would not be selling any of me PA stuff so it would cost me the full amount.

I guess I could look up all the prices and add it up myself...

Derek

I have followed Hunt's lead so whatever he's using so am I. Or close to it.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #24 on:** May 20, 2013, 09:07:16 AM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on May 20, 2013, 08:26:41 AM

I understand, just trying to get an idea of how much it would cost to built an electric ship. I would not waste time or money on the cheap stuff. I would have to know what I was using had been proven and I flew Hunt's so I know it works. IF I did build one I would not be selling any of me PA stuff so it would cost me the full amount.

I guess I could look up all the prices and add it up myself...Derek

I might do the opposit. Start with the cheap seats, entry level stuff?

Especially for my scale GBZ. No point in spending money on TOTL, Top Of The Line, equipment while learning? Not sure about that though, but I'm sure the GBZ will be electric.

A Thread would be nice on the cost of this stuff, plus an in depth list of on board equipment. That's been asked before.

YEA HA ELECTRIC!

Quiet as a mouse. They don't know your there.

Many advantages with electric. I'm paying attention.

Charles

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #25 on:** May 20, 2013, 09:58:47 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on May 19, 2013, 09:03:44 PM

Air over the motor is fine. After talking to Will and going over the solder joints I think it will be fine. I think I found the exact spot. Of coarse the new motor won hurt either. I could hold my hand on it after flying so it was not melting.

What was "the exact spot"? Just curious. Solder joints can be tricky, but generally if they look good, they will be good. Round and lumpy with no look that it "flowed' is a good indication of a cold solder joint
Hope to see it fly again soon,
Dan

RC Storick · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2013, 11:53:31 AM »

Quote from: Dan McEntee on May 20, 2013, 09:58:47 AM

What was "the exact spot"? Just curious. Solder joints can be tricky, but generally if they look good, they will be good. Round and lumpy with no look that it "flowed' is a good indication of a cold solder joint
Hope to see it fly again soon,
Dan

I used the wrong flux and one spot was corroded I also eliminated to bullits and soldered direct to plugs. Hard to explain.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2013, 02:42:46 PM »

If you used flux on any kind of electrical joint, be sure to clean/neutralize the flux when you are finished. Flux is corrosive, and can migrate. You should not have to use flux on any kind of properly prepared electrical joint, unless it's silver solder, and even then I try not to use flux. I do this more in my line of wkr than in modeling, but the same principles apply.
Dan McEntee