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Title: 42% RC plane
Post by: RC Storick on May 19, 2014, 09:20:51 AM

I know we are control line but I promised I would post this for my friend and it is cool. I have also figured out I was filming in the wrong aspect ratio so the next videos will be better.

http://youtu.be/mNDEI1p2XJA

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Gerald Arana on May 19, 2014, 09:32:41 AM

And that is exactly why I quit flying R/C...............Seeing airplanes flop around like that turns me off!  n1

But at least he is using the right prop..........A Vess. y1

Thanks for showing us that Sparky, Jerry

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Matt Colan on May 19, 2014, 05:27:25 PM

I've flown the 37% version of that airplane and it is an awesome 3D airplane! It won't draw lines, but it will tumble with the best of them.

I've flown and watched so much 3D over the past year, I get bored if I watch or fly anything else RC related. A bunch of my buddies say you aren't flying low enough until you're scraping covering off the airplane dragging along the ground  ;D

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Mike Griffin on May 19, 2014, 05:37:46 PM

I guess there is something wrong with me.  3D flying just leaves me cold.  I do fly RC Sailplanes but this just does not get me going for some reason. 

Mike

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Matt Colan on May 19, 2014, 06:18:14 PM

Quote from: Mike Griffin on May 19, 2014, 05:37:46 PM

I guess there is something wrong with me.  3D flying just leaves me cold.  I do fly RC Sailplanes but this just does not get me going for some reason. 

Mike

Mike,

That was a very mild 3D flight. Here's a video I took of a friend of mine thats faster, harder, lower, and more stressful on the airframe

http://youtu.be/P0eLHN0Jj7w

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Paul Taylor on May 19, 2014, 09:20:31 PM

That was crazy Matt.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Mike Griffin on May 19, 2014, 09:37:41 PM

I don't see what keeps the plane from flying apart. Takes a lot of skill to do this I am sure.

Mike

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Mike Keville on May 19, 2014, 09:46:30 PM

Quote from: Mike Griffin on May 19, 2014, 09:37:41 PM

<snip> . . . Takes a lot of skill to do this I am sure.
Mike

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No doubt it does.  I certainly couldn't do it.  (More accurately, wouldn't WANT to do it.)  That's not 'flying', it's more like an airborne video game. 

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Matt Colan on May 19, 2014, 10:57:24 PM

Quote from: Mike Griffin on May 19, 2014, 09:37:41 PM

I don't see what keeps the plane from flying apart. Takes a lot of skill to do this I am sure.

Mike

I can do all of what he did, just haven't dared to do all of it during a flight or that low, but I'm getting closer. I have watched him rip the canopy off doing a rudder wall with that airplane. It was spectacular to watch.

Sorry Sparky, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: wwwarbird on May 19, 2014, 11:37:32 PM

Quote from: Mike Keville on May 19, 2014, 09:46:30 PM

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That's not 'flying', it's more like an airborne video game.  

 That's a good way to describe 3D Mikey, more like a video game than actual "flying". These things are basically just overpowered thrust generators with air deflectors to aim them, all put together in a package to look like an airplane. These guys could sit on their couch and do the same thing on the flat screen, in most cases for a lot less money. Obviously it takes a level of talent, but to me it's "seen one, seen 'em all". I definitely don't consider it "flying". Consistent four foot C/L bottoms impress me a lot more. To each his own I guess, but I'll pass.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Curare on May 20, 2014, 12:42:01 AM

Nice round bottoms impress me more.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: wwwarbird on May 20, 2014, 09:04:37 AM

Quote from: Curare on May 20, 2014, 12:42:01 AM

Nice round bottoms impress me more.

 Well, that too. LL~

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Paul Smith on May 20, 2014, 11:32:58 AM

33%,,,42%,,,,50% Scale?

I saw a 60% Piper Cub at the Toledo RC Show.  This is not rocket science or nuclear physics, it's just money at work.  The closer to full scale, the better the model flys - because it becomes not a "model" just a slightly smaller airplane.

So build a 1/3 scale Pitts Special with a 6-foot wingspan and fly it at true airplane speed.  It will work well but circumvent the essence of modeling - miniaturization.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Phil Krankowski on May 24, 2014, 08:31:26 PM

Quote from: Mike Griffin on May 19, 2014, 05:37:46 PM

I guess there is something wrong with me.  3D flying just leaves me cold.  I do fly RC Sailplanes but this just does not get me going for some reason. 

Mike

The indoor 3D where the pilot/airplane is choreographed very precisely impresses me much more.  (Although these planes are pretty cool, it strikes me as more "Hey watch this!") 

There are some youtube videos of mall performances where the pilot is performing corkscrew rolls, and uses his head as an obstacle to avoid, without flinching, as well as full stage shows. 

I like RC gliders too, I started RC with slope gliding. 

Phil

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on May 24, 2014, 09:16:44 PM

Quote from: wwwarbird on May 19, 2014, 11:37:32 PM

That's a good way to describe 3D Mikey, more like a video game than actual "flying". These things are basically just overpowered thrust generators with air deflectors to aim them, all put together in a package to look like an airplane. These guys could sit on their couch and do the same thing on the flat screen, in most cases for a lot less money. Obviously it takes a level of talent, but to me it's "seen one, seen 'em all". I definitely don't consider it "flying". Consistent four foot C/L bottoms impress me a lot more. To each his own I guess, but I'll pass.

I have to agree, but it probably reveals my age ...

I was drawn to real airplanes as a kid - didn't mind walking a few miles out to the airport to hang on the fence and watch J-3 Cubs takeoff and land in the post-war era, and when the Air National Guard or Naval Reserve boys buzzed the town, some of us kids were in heaven!  And I confess: never saw a J-3 Cub or P-51 Mustang hang on its prop.    :)

I've known guys who took a leave from CL flying and became real wizards flying RC helicopters inverted just off the deck, etc., etc.  Never have I seen a real helicopter perform that kind of flying though.    :)

In other words, I'm hooked on models that fly somewhat like the airplanes that first attracted my attention.  Yes, I've watched many aerobatic performances at air shows - but give me a high speed flyby by the Blue Angels any day!

No offense to the folks who spend time, money and energy perfecting their skills in that type of flying - and become very good at it - it just doesn't appeal to me at all.

Dennis
 n1

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Paul Smith on May 25, 2014, 07:20:54 AM

Simply flopping an airplane or helicopter about high in the sky does not show much skill.

If these RC'ers want to impress people they need to build an obstacle course like Red Bull  and take some chances. 

Somebody who can do CL stunts down to 5 feet off the ground or fly a combat plane one foot off the ground inverted with the other pilot harassing him shows some skeels.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Douglas Ames on May 25, 2014, 08:14:39 AM

Next up... Knife-edging a Quadcopter.... with smoke.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Brian Massey on May 25, 2014, 11:45:13 AM

Quote from: Paul Smith on May 25, 2014, 07:20:54 AM

Simply flopping an airplane or helicopter about high in the sky does not show much skill.

If these RC'ers want to impress people they need to build an obstacle course like Red Bull  and take some chances. 

Somebody who can do CL stunts down to 5 feet off the ground or fly a combat plane one foot off the ground inverted with the other pilot harassing him shows some skeels.

Couldn't agree more. I watched a guy "flying" helo at a park one day and have to say I was left wondering "what?". It looked like nothing more than a motorized chicken with it's head cut off flopping around in the air.

I don't get it.

Brian

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Douglas Ames on May 25, 2014, 02:29:32 PM

3D flying is kinda like the Auto sport of "Drifting"... I don't get it?

What ever happened to RC Pattern?

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: john e. holliday on May 25, 2014, 07:04:13 PM

3D flying reminds me of the people that can't do precision work.

Title: Re: 42% RC plane
Post by: Chris McMillin on May 25, 2014, 08:22:39 PM

There still is Pattern, and Classic pattern which I like. Matt Colan is the age thet really digs 3D, not so much old guys like me (55), but some of the 3D champs are Pattern guys too and Andrew Jesky has flown at some our contests in SoCal and is helpful and friendly like most modelers.

Pattern planes look like this now, in the first picture. Mine is a smaller 90 sized version with a Hacker A50-12S on 6 cells, has a 62 inch span.
Bottom pic is my Classic Pattern Tiporare with an OS61FSR on a Macs pipe with MK retracts just like in the early 80's.

Chris...