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Title: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 26, 2014, 06:16:18 PM
Just completed my 38 Special profile. Was a fun project. Cover is ultracote cream with Rust-oleum Navajo White on fuselage and tail. power is a OS Max 40. It is a little nose heavy so may have to replace stock muff with tongue type.
I will try pictures and if they don't go through I will need help.
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Clint Ormosen on April 26, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
Beautiful! Gotta love the two-wingers!
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: kenneth cook on April 26, 2014, 07:12:58 PM
          Welcome, the plane looks awesome!!! Ken
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Juan Valentin on April 26, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
 Excellent,makes me want to build one.
                                                               Juan
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: john e. holliday on April 26, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
Looks great and I hope it flies as well as it looks in the pics.   I need to get mine off the hook and back in the air.   
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on April 26, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
A very nice, clean looking ship there.  Congrats. H^^
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Shug Emery on April 26, 2014, 09:42:28 PM
Mighty fine looking plane there.......twice the work and fun so it seems.
Look forward to the flight report.
Shug
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Dennis Toth on April 27, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
Richard,
Great looking ship. Looking at the photo I noticed the wheels looked like older low bounce Durbo's. You can save about 1 1/2 oz just by switching to light foam wheels. I get mine from Tom Morris, they are 1/2 oz per pair of 2"size.

A few question: What is the total wing area of the ship? Total weight and CG location back from the leading edge to the top wing?

Best,       DennisT
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 27, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
Dennis, The total wt. with the stock muffler and extension is 3lbs. Should be able to reduce this figure by replacing stock muffler with a tongue type.Wing area is 520 sq. inches. CG location from the plans is 8.5 inches back from the spinner back plate. Notice that I did move the I struts in to represent full scale positioning. Hope that answers your questions. Richard
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Will Hinton on April 27, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Veeerrry nice!!!
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: jim gevay on April 27, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
That's a very nice looking plane there, and I hate to say this, but I do see an oops in the one photo.
Title: Re: 38 Speacial
Post by: Larry Fernandez on April 27, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
That's a very nice looking plane there, and I hate to say this, but I do see an oops in the one photo.


Spelling???     (special)

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 27, 2014, 03:14:52 PM
 A special thanks for bringing the spelling error to my attention. I'm sure it must be the key board, it has done that before!
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Larry Fernandez on April 27, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
A special thanks for bringing the spelling error to my attention. I'm sure it must be the key board, it has done that before!


Key board on the wing??   H^^

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 27, 2014, 04:25:55 PM
Since we are talking Bi-Planes here thought I would post a picture of my Starduster One that I built from a set of plans. Started the project in 1970, first flight was June 1990. Had to sell it 3 years ago due to not being able to pass the medical.
Also gas was running around six dollars a gal. at 9.1 gal per hr. it was no longer possible to enjoy plus hanger rent etc, etc. It was a real fun aircraft to fly, learned aerobatics with it . Richard
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 27, 2014, 04:30:49 PM
Laryy u no tht ke bords can b a problm evin on wingz. I guess I will have to remedy that, thanks for you eagle eye. Richard
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Larry Fernandez on April 27, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
This thread has inspired me to finish up a Flying Fool that I started a couple of years ago.
I know that they are not known to fly well, but I have never seen one that weighs less than thirty ounces, power by an FP .20.

I'll post pictures later. I think your bipe is pretty cool.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 27, 2014, 05:02:52 PM
Well the Special is now correct on the wing, thanks to Larry's eagle eye. I had better check my dictionary next time,me thinks. Looking forward to your Flying Fool post. Richard
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Will Hinton on April 27, 2014, 05:16:41 PM
Richard, is your next model going to be a scale model of your Starduster?  Think about it, it's a perfect match for you!
I know what it's like to lose a medical certificate, my pain is like yours.  (Especially in the spring!!)
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Phil Spillman on April 27, 2014, 05:32:01 PM
Mighty fine looking 38 Special! I flew the begeepers out of mine until I broke the fuselage in half and creamed the tail surfaces as well! The LA .40 should fly it just fine..mine did! I also saw Pete Klepsic's article about adding throttle to this model in CLW. Makes sense to me. I hope you'll report on your first flights with this bird when completed!
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 27, 2014, 06:05:50 PM
Yes, I have thought of making a scale model of my Full scale Starduster One many times over the years, but have not done so to date. I have designed some RC and free flight planes over the years including Lucky Lindy's Miles Mohawk at 70 inch span for RC. a profile Brewster Buffalo with a OS55 to name a couple. Also designed some free flight planes for our church summer bible/airplane camp. When I first started the 38 Special I toyed with the idea of throttle control via RC
but that is on the back burner. Richard
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Will Hinton on April 28, 2014, 08:49:39 AM
That all sounds great.  One variant for church camps for me has been the kids building the AMA Delta Dart.  It's a real hoot for the youngsters during the flying phase!  A good distraction from intense builds.
Title: Re: 38 Special
Post by: Richard Logston on April 28, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Will, Yes, the Delta Dart is a wise choice. Our camp runs a week Mon-Fri. Fri.is fly day at the local elementary school soccer field. We have been running as many as 20 kids for this program. Some planes fly great others need a lot of trimming. Time constraints do not allow us to spend the time needed to get them all trimmed out properly, but the kids are tickled to get a 25-30 sec. flight. Some flights fly fine while many need extra work trimming. Pictures show a mass launch at the end of the session with the Flying Eagle, also the new plane for this summer we call the Swallow. Richard