Author Topic: 30 days ago I started this (Read 7717 times)

RC Storick · « **on:** February 04, 2014, 08:42:24 PM »

In the building section I started this airplane and I am rubbing it out now.

Still needs trim on the wheel pants but as it sits 54.5 ounces.

George Grossardt · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2014, 09:04:52 PM »

What an outstanding build. I wish I could knock out a plane in 30 days. Maybe once I retire!

wwwarbird · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2014, 09:49:06 PM »

Hey Sparky,

How about some details and product info on your buffing process?

Chris McMillin · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2014, 10:02:35 PM »

Pretty. It harkens back to your 90's stuff.
Chris...

Serge_Krauss · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2014, 04:22:37 AM »

Spectacular!!!

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2014, 07:01:56 AM »

That is crazy!!!
Another Jaw dropper!

Can't wait to see it Sparky.

RC Storick · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2014, 07:11:10 AM »

Well I couldn't build this in 30 days with a Windy finish, but do you know the difference between this and a Windy finish?

About a pound.

I bought a Roku 3 so I could watch Youtube on my TV. I hear mention of a 7 ounce finish in the windy tapes. Makes me wonder where he is measuring from? This is a 6.5 ounce finish and I have no paint on it.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2014, 07:28:38 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 05, 2014, 07:11:10 AM

Well I couldn't build this in 30 days with a Windy finish, but do you know the difference between this and a Windy finish?

About a pound.

I bought a Roku 3 so I could watch Youtube on my TV. I hear mention of a 7 ounce finish in the windy tapes. Makes me wonder where he is measuring from? This is a 6.5 ounce finish and I have no paint on it.

No paint? I'll bite.

Then what is that red, white and blue stuff?

6.5 oz.? This must include the clear coat?

Your collection of builds, I'm lost, not sure you used clear on this model.

You did say you used dope.

John Stiles · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2014, 07:32:58 AM »

Sweet!

RC Storick · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2014, 07:45:51 AM »

Quote from: Avaiojet on February 05, 2014, 07:28:38 AM

No paint? I'll bite.

Then what is that red, white and blue stuff?

6.5 oz.? This must include the clear coat?

Your collection of builds, I'm lost, not sure you used clear on this model.

You did say you used dope.

When I say no paint "It's to mean very little" You can see through it. Yes it has clear dope on it.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2014, 08:16:33 AM »

Yes dope does lose weight as it dries/cures, depends on how you look at it. The plane looks absolutely great Sparky. I do good to get one ready for paint in 30 days.

Bill Little · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2014, 09:15:54 AM »

Hi Sparky!

I really love the looks of this one. It is a scheme I could "steal"!

BIG Bear

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2014, 09:18:29 AM »

Well what my mentor tells me.... "It's not what you put on but what you sand off".

wwwarbird · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2014, 09:18:52 PM »

So Sparky, what's next?

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2014, 11:13:46 PM »

Well Sparky,
You are the other side of the coin to my building activity. I'm putting clear dop (not the top coat) on one that I just covered today that i started 2 1/2 years ago. I have 4 others that are ready to cover that I started up to 8 years ago. Someone told me that I'm actually a very fast builder compared to Howard...don't know if that's true or not, but it usually takes me about 3 years from start to finish.

30 days? Ridiculous! It looks great. Very nice classic lines. I really like that!

Randy Cuberly

RC Storick · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2014, 11:34:11 PM »

Thanks for the compliment.

But the reason some people take so long is too much time wasted on writing spread sheets on what color is best or how many rat droppings work best on a wing.

Howard Rush · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2014, 02:46:13 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 06, 2014, 11:34:11 PM

But the reason some people take so long is too much time wasted on writing spread sheets on what color is best or how many rat droppings work best on a wing.

The score starts with the first analysis made.

Paul Wood · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2014, 08:12:12 AM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 06, 2014, 11:34:11 PM

Thanks for the compliment.

But the reason some people take so long is too much time wasted on writing spread sheets on what color is best or how many rat droppings work best on a wing.

That's pretty funny Robert. At the rate you build, you don't need spread sheets. Just build it, fly it, and see if it works. If not, build another one and try again. I like that approach! Beautiful work, as always.

Paul

Doug Moon · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2014, 08:13:04 AM »

Quote from: Howard Rush on February 07, 2014, 02:46:13 AM

The score starts with the first analysis made.

That seems to be paying off as well. Mr. USA F2B Team Member!!

john e. holliday · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2014, 08:59:11 AM »

And who are the other two? I hear we don't have a Junior member. Now Robert aka Sparky, have you surpassed Jack Sheeks on the number of airplanes designed and built?

Derek Barry · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2014, 09:38:54 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on February 07, 2014, 08:59:11 AM

And who are the other two? I hear we don't have a Junior member. Now Robert aka Sparky, have you surpassed Jack Sheeks on the number of airplanes designed and built?

Orestes Hernandez and Kenney Stevens

Derek

Ted Fancher · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2014, 09:46:48 AM »

Gorgeous, Sparky! I love well done classic style stunters.

ted

RC Storick · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2014, 10:24:19 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on February 07, 2014, 08:59:11 AM

And who are the other two? I hear we don't have a Junior member. Now Robert aka Sparky, have you surpassed Jack Sheeks on the number of airplanes designed and built?

Not a chance. Jack was (and will remain) the most prolific builder in history.

Steve Fitton · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2014, 10:58:31 AM »

I thought the red plane was going to be your Nats plane? What happened to it?

RC Storick · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2014, 11:32:26 AM »

Well I have 1 flight on it and its a new plane design. I thought it would be better to stay around a familiar design and work it in between and test as I do. It will need to evolve I am sure so its the first in the series. As a mater of fact I am always trying to improve my Viper design I will probably make another before the NATS and fly the one that flies best.

RC Storick · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2014, 03:52:52 PM »

All that's left is the color sanding and Rubbing. Just got started on that today.

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #26 on:** February 07, 2014, 05:30:43 PM »

Marcus

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #27 on:** February 07, 2014, 06:18:04 PM »

WOW another great bird! The trim scheme is exactly right too. I predict a somewhat troubled early summer for you as you test trim then finally have to SELECT which of all your beautiful new birds to campaign! The good news is that any or all will likely be winners.

Geoff Goodworth · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2014, 03:13:12 PM »

Beautifull aeroplane Robert. Where did the CF landing gear come from?

RC Storick · « **Reply #29 on:** February 08, 2014, 11:12:52 PM »

Quote from: Geoff Goodworth on February 08, 2014, 03:13:12 PM

Beautifull aeroplane Robert. Where did the CF landing gear come from?

Windy

Leo Mehl · « **Reply #30 on:** February 09, 2014, 10:59:07 AM »

Nice looking plane and hard to beleave it only took 30 days. Whats the power unit look like. I guess we all are going electric these days and it gets better for those that have a problem with what it takes to go electric. There is a lot more information out there tha there used to be.

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #31 on:** February 09, 2014, 02:45:16 PM »

Quote from: Leo Mehl on February 09, 2014, 10:59:07 AM

Nice looking plane and hard to beleave it only took 30 days. Whats the power unit look like. I guess we all are going electric these days and it gets better for those that have a problem with what it takes to go electric. There is a lot more information out there tha there used to be.

Electric, electric,...People are flying ELECTRIC???....No way, No how. never happen.

I arrived at the flying field this morning here in Tucson and pulled into the parking area and there was a plane flying and I couldn't hear anything...Most disappointing experience ever!!!

It definitely takes something from the experience!! Maybe I'll take up Golf again! At least you can hear it when you hit the ball.

Randy Cuberly

Howard Rush · « **Reply #32 on:** February 09, 2014, 05:09:22 PM »

You just need new hearing aid batteries.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #33 on:** February 09, 2014, 07:14:20 PM »

Quote from: Randy Cuberly on February 09, 2014, 02:45:16 PM

Electric, electric,...People are flying ELECTRIC???....No way, No how. never happen.

I arrived at the flying field this morning here in Tucson and pulled into the parking area and there was a plane flying and I couldn't hear anything...Most disappointing experience ever!!!

It definitely takes something from the experience!! Maybe I'll take up Golf again! At least you can hear it when you hit the ball.

Randy Cuberly

Right there with ya Randy, it just gives a generic feel.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #34 on:** February 10, 2014, 07:10:07 AM »

Robert,

You set an excellent example. Thank you for that.

I'm tearing The New American apart. Less weight and a new look for my very first electric.

I have a few "fine tuning" questions that will help me get going immediately.

The spinner you used and size?

Clockwise rotation?

Collet choice and thread size?

CF gear and pants from what supplier.

Robert, that's if for now,

Thanks in advance.

Charles

john e. holliday · « **Reply #35 on:** February 10, 2014, 09:00:12 AM »

Randy, Randy, Randy we need to get with the times. I use a hearing device now and it is because of all the noises I encountered during my life time. Nothing like working in industrial plants, like injection molding machines, corrugating machine and printing presses. No ear muffs. Also drag racing in street stock. But, they tell me it was the model engines that did my ears in. I keep thinking about the ease of electric, you know, not worrying about what nitro content, what plug and if the ni-starter is charged. Electric is plug and play if you have enough batteries charged and the right props. Well enough of this.

Robert, I hope that gorgeous plane gets you into the top 10 this year.

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #36 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:17:12 AM »

Quote from: Howard Rush on February 09, 2014, 05:09:22 PM

You just need new hearing aid batteries.

Howard, maybe you're right...You're doing the electric thing do you have any extras...

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #37 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:20:20 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on February 10, 2014, 09:00:12 AM

Randy, Randy, Randy we need to get with the times. I use a hearing device now and it is because of all the noises I encountered during my life time. Nothing like working in industrial plants, like injection molding machines, corrugating machine and printing presses. No ear muffs. Also drag racing in street stock. But, they tell me it was the model engines that did my ears in. I keep thinking about the ease of electric, you know, not worrying about what nitro content, what plug and if the ni-starter is charged. Electric is plug and play if you have enough batteries charged and the right props. Well enough of this.

Robert, I hope that gorgeous plane gets you into the top 10 this year.

Doc, You'll have to talk louder i can't hear you over all that noise!

Randy C.

David_Stack · « **Reply #38 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:34:49 AM »

Charles;

A little judicious time spent reading this thread and its predecessor "I've been slacking so I started this" would answer the majority of your questions.

Prop rotation can be easily determined by looking at the photos Robert provided.

In his build thread he said the motor is a Cobra 3515/18. Quick search of the internet provides the following URL which details the motor and the prop adapter. http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/product_info.php?products_id=847&osCsid=08bff71a9b92732f34534ef239ed65e4

Not five (!) posts prior to your Robert answered the same question. His carbon gear was sourced from Windy.

r/
Dave

Avaiojet · « **Reply #39 on:** February 10, 2014, 03:43:23 PM »

Quote from: David_Stack on February 10, 2014, 10:34:49 AM

Charles;

A little judicious time spent reading this thread and its predecessor "I've been slacking so I started this" would answer the majority of your questions.

Prop rotation can be easily determined by looking at the photos Robert provided.

In his build thread he said the motor is a Cobra 3515/18. Quick search of the internet provides the following URL which details the motor and the prop adapter. http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/product_info.php?products_id=847&osCsid=08bff71a9b92732f34534ef239ed65e4

Not five (!) posts prior to your Robert answered the same question. His carbon gear was sourced from Windy.

r/
Dave

Nice of you to respond for Robert.

I don't believe he's using the prop drive at that link.

RC Storick · « **Reply #40 on:** February 10, 2014, 04:23:05 PM »

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/prop-adapter-with-collet-long-5mm-EFLM1925L?utm_medium=Product_Search&utm_campaign=CA_Product_Search&utm_source=EFLM1925L&CAWELAID=320011980000030568&cagpspn=pla&gclid=COWO7eDZwrwCFYkWMgodoisAFA

Avaiojet · « **Reply #41 on:** February 11, 2014, 08:33:00 AM »

Robert,

Thanks for that.

I'm going to first try collets with grub screws.

Please, the spinner size and from who did it come from?

Thanks

Bill Morell · « **Reply #42 on:** February 11, 2014, 12:17:40 PM »

Its not a spinner in the sense that you are asking. If you would look at it you would notice the hole through it for tightening.I think they are called a prop hub nut or something to that effect.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #43 on:** February 11, 2014, 01:42:59 PM »

Quote from: Bill Morell on February 11, 2014, 12:17:40 PM

Its not a spinner in the sense that you are asking. If you would look at it you would notice the hole through it for tightening.I think they are called a prop hub nut or something to that effect.

Bill,

Thanks for the reply.

The photo that Sparky Posted shows a collet with a prop hub. I actually have a few of these purchased only for the collet.

Sparky's model has a great spinner with a rounded tip, looks rounded, my guess is 2" or 2.25" in diameter.

His model with this spinner can be seen ten or twelve Posts back.

Charles

RC Storick · « **Reply #44 on:** February 11, 2014, 03:00:08 PM »

Any spinner will work with that collet you need a 1/4 28 spinner adapter. Mine is a 2 inch Randy Smith spinner. ANY spinner will work.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #45 on:** February 11, 2014, 03:22:11 PM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on February 11, 2014, 03:00:08 PM

Any spinner will work with that collet you need a 1/4 28 spinner adapter. Mine is a 2 inch Randy Smith spinner. ANY spinner will work.

Robert,

How does one contact Windy?

I could use some gear.

Bill Little · « **Reply #46 on:** February 11, 2014, 03:37:39 PM »

Quote from: Avaiojet on February 11, 2014, 03:22:11 PM

Robert,

How does one contact Windy?

I could use some gear.

Hi Charles,

As far as I know, Windy has "retired" from model airplanes and his model airplane business. The last time I talked with him, that is the impression I got. Others have said the same.

Bill

Avaiojet · « **Reply #47 on:** February 11, 2014, 04:24:54 PM »

Quote from: Bill Little on February 11, 2014, 03:37:39 PM

Hi Charles,

As far as I know, Windy has "retired" from model airplanes and his model airplane business. The last time I talked with him, that is the impression I got. Others have said the same.

Bill

Bill,

I need gear. Robert's is nice. Probably costly, but nice.

Possibly Windy has stuff he'll part with, like gear. Ya never know.

Charles

Matt Colan · « **Reply #48 on:** February 11, 2014, 04:31:44 PM »

Quote from: Avaiojet on February 11, 2014, 04:24:54 PM

Bill,

I need gear. Robert's is nice. Probably costly, but nice.

Possibly Windy has stuff he'll part with, like gear. Ya never know.

Charles

Windy made stuff to order. He's not making any parts (props, gear, tanks) anymore.

When I got my set from Windy, the gear was $40.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #49 on:** February 11, 2014, 05:40:57 PM »

Quote from: Matt Colan on February 11, 2014, 04:31:44 PM

Windy made stuff to order. He's not making any parts (props, gear, tanks) anymore.

When I got my set from Windy, the gear was $40.

Matt,

I've watched some of Windy's videos, my guess is the workmanship was excellent.