Author Topic: 2022 Nationals CLPA Coverage...... (Read 15568 times)

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #50 on:** July 21, 2022, 08:22:27 AM »

Good question. They didn’t have a large board for that, that I saw anyway. I didn’t get any photos-I was judging OT. Anyone who can list the placings please do so.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #51 on:** July 21, 2022, 10:38:17 AM »

OK folks here are your qualifiers:

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2022, 10:38:45 AM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #53 on:** July 21, 2022, 10:39:08 AM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #54 on:** July 21, 2022, 10:39:39 AM »

Steve Berry · « **Reply #55 on:** July 21, 2022, 11:01:46 AM »

Two things:

1. For those of us who can't quite make it out due to small pictures, can you list who all qualified and such?
2. What happened with Sparky? Scratch? Just decided not to fly due to conditions? Just curious.

Steve

Dick Byron · « **Reply #56 on:** July 21, 2022, 11:03:11 AM »

Sorry but unreadable.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #57 on:** July 21, 2022, 11:59:39 AM »

Sorry guys. I chose a smaller pic so I didn't have to size them at the field. I'm back at the hotel so I'll try to resize them.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #58 on:** July 21, 2022, 12:04:21 PM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #59 on:** July 21, 2022, 12:04:56 PM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #60 on:** July 21, 2022, 12:05:27 PM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #61 on:** July 21, 2022, 12:09:23 PM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #62 on:** July 21, 2022, 12:10:14 PM »

Tomorrow’s flight orders:

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #63 on:** July 21, 2022, 12:13:22 PM »

Quote from: Steve Berry on July 21, 2022, 11:01:46 AM

Two things:

1. For those of us who can't quite make it out due to small pictures, can you list who all qualified and such?
2. What happened with Sparky? Scratch? Just decided not to fly due to conditions? Just curious.

Steve

Steve I believe he didn't want to risk his Concours winner in those awful winds yesterday. Today was much better but without anything on the board from yesterday..........

Bob Hunt · « **Reply #64 on:** July 21, 2022, 01:31:40 PM »

He must be saving it for a bigger contest...

But... He did get the trophy he came for!

Bob Hunt

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #65 on:** July 21, 2022, 03:35:43 PM »

Sporting chick Nats style, Denny Adamisin shows off the Top 20 shirt for this year.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #66 on:** July 21, 2022, 05:14:07 PM »

I take it the wind was gusty and not a study wind. I remember flying in winds in excess of mph and no problem. But, it was a study wind.

Howard Rush · « **Reply #67 on:** July 21, 2022, 08:50:09 PM »

Wind this evening was ridiculously smooth.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #68 on:** July 21, 2022, 10:12:26 PM »

Quote from: Howard Rush on July 21, 2022, 08:50:09 PM

Wind this evening was ridiculously smooth.

Should produce some ridiculously high (practice) scores then?

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #69 on:** July 21, 2022, 10:32:03 PM »

Quote from: Dave_Trible on July 21, 2022, 03:35:43 PM

Sporting chick Nats style, Denny Adamisin shows off the Top 20 shirt for this year.

A little early for "Shark 45 Week" on Discovery Channel, but that's ok!

Thanks for reporting the haps!

Steve

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #70 on:** July 22, 2022, 09:57:21 AM »

Today’s results:

Joe Bowman · « **Reply #71 on:** July 22, 2022, 10:22:24 AM »

Thanks Dave. We really appreciate the extra effort you make to keep all who can't attend, informed.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #72 on:** July 22, 2022, 10:33:17 AM »

Quote from: Dave_Trible on July 22, 2022, 09:57:21 AM

Today’s results:

WOW! Only 11:30 and they are finished already!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Bruce Shipp · « **Reply #73 on:** July 22, 2022, 11:57:55 AM »

Rookie of the Year?

What happened, Paul?

Scott Richlen · « **Reply #74 on:** July 22, 2022, 12:19:54 PM »

What happened on Joe Gilbert's first flight?

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #75 on:** July 22, 2022, 12:26:42 PM »

Quote from: Scott Richlen on July 22, 2022, 12:19:54 PM

What happened on Joe Gilbert's first flight?

Joe’s airplane shed a wing. Joe Daly’s also. I pancaked inverted in the square eight. Paul had a motor issue. Extremely unusual year for Top 20 quirks.

Scott Richlen · « **Reply #76 on:** July 22, 2022, 12:35:58 PM »

Hate to see a plane go in, but it shows how hard you guys were fighting for qualifying.

Note Howard Rush's score on his first flight!

Howard Rush · « **Reply #77 on:** July 22, 2022, 12:50:15 PM »

Dave was flying really good stunt and his plane was working well, despite the strong wind. He must have encountered a bad gust.

Brett Buck · « **Reply #78 on:** July 22, 2022, 12:54:27 PM »

Lots of weird stuff happened. It was pretty hard to understand how we managed to lose so many airplanes in relatively benign conditions. Or, benign compared to Circles 1 and 2 on Wednesday, at least, where we all survived. Two folded wings, an overhead flameout and crash, pancake inverted and subsequent big crash, an intermittent connection on an electric that resulted in lost flight/withdrawal and *one airplane chewed up by another in the pits*.

That latter was a perfect example of why I wrote the arming plug rule. The airplane had been (through a series of "unusual/unplanned" operations) left in the pits while still armed. For some reason, sometime later, it started up and then proceeded to chew up the airplane in front.

OK, it definitely should not have been left armed, that's a problem, but the reason that this is a rule is that due to an unknown action, the armed but halted airplane, which would normally sit there doing nothing, *decided to run*, with very predictable results - "running amok in the pits" as I previously described it. I emphasize again - you cannot count on low-level logic states to stay the way they are without some other means of making sure it stays. That means anything in that timer could happen in any way at any time as long as there is power to it.

Brett

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #79 on:** July 22, 2022, 01:19:37 PM »

Quote from: Brett Buck on July 22, 2022, 12:54:27 PM

Lots of weird stuff happened. It was pretty hard to understand how we managed to lose so many airplanes in relatively benign conditions. Or, benign compared to Circles 1 and 2 on Wednesday, at least, where we all survived. Two folded wings, an overhead flameout and crash, pancake inverted and subsequent big crash, an intermittent connection on an electric that resulted in lost flight/withdrawal and *one airplane chewed up by another in the pits*.

That latter was a perfect example of why I wrote the arming plug rule. The airplane had been (through a series of "unusual/unplanned" operations) left in the pits while still armed. For some reason, sometime later, it started up and then proceeded to chew up the airplane in front.

OK, it definitely should not have been left armed, that's a problem, but the reason that this is a rule is that due to an unknown action, the armed but halted airplane, which would normally sit there doing nothing, *decided to run*, with very predictable results - "running amok in the pits" as I previously described it. I emphasize again - you cannot count on low-level logic states to stay the way they are without some other means of making sure it stays. That means anything in that timer could happen in any way at any time as long as there is power to it.

Brett

I am not knocking flying electric, but any one that does needs to read this and live by it. In my years of working on high voltage machines with low voltage controls, it's the low voltage stuff that caused the biggest problems and sometimes presented the biggest hazards.

Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

john e. holliday · « **Reply #80 on:** July 22, 2022, 02:03:10 PM »

Was the guy DQ'd with the electric set up?

frank williams · « **Reply #81 on:** July 22, 2022, 02:07:00 PM »

Actually the structural failures today may be attributed to the hard wind conditions back on Wednesday.

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #82 on:** July 22, 2022, 02:30:43 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 22, 2022, 02:03:10 PM

Was the guy DQ'd with the electric set up?

I would expect a DQ from the event, for sure. If somebody did this and was also entered in other events...I'm not sure whether they would be allowed to fly the other events or not. I've seen two electrics fail to start and one tear the firewall off the plane when it did start.

Steve

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #83 on:** July 22, 2022, 02:49:17 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 22, 2022, 02:03:10 PM

Was the guy DQ'd with the electric set up?

No, this happened before official flying started.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #84 on:** July 22, 2022, 02:54:06 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 22, 2022, 02:03:10 PM

Was the guy DQ'd with the electric set up?

Not sure about those details. What I understand is the airplane was on the circle ready to go. A bad controline was spotted so the airplane taken back to the pit. The arming plug was still in.....start button NOT pushed. So?

Apparently the errant PIT MAN chewed up his own airplane in the pit when he set the airplane down behind his own.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #85 on:** July 22, 2022, 02:59:00 PM »

Quote from: frank williams on July 22, 2022, 02:07:00 PM

Actually the structural failures today may be attributed to the hard wind conditions back on Wednesday.

Frank you are likely correct-even more so for Joe G. This airplane flew in the crazy- winds final LAST YEAR and maybe as far back as the Dallas Team Trials.
Joe Daly's is a take-apart and likely his entry in Poland next month. He flew the flight out and landed in pretty good shape. He should have it repaired quickly.

John Paris · « **Reply #86 on:** July 22, 2022, 06:56:12 PM »

Everyone,
No DQ for the pit error as it was outside of official flying, no injuries and the incident was more oversight than carelessness. Had I thought there was any hint of wreckless behavior, I would have asked them to leave. The two parties involved worked the issue out and a second plane was used for the officials. The point here is to disarm the battery any time you are not going to fly the airplane.

Mike Schmitt is Rookie of the Year. 1st year in Open with a new airplanes and power train. Outstanding job by Mike.

John

Frank Imbriaco · « **Reply #87 on:** July 23, 2022, 05:52:17 AM »

Congrats and more to my kid brother and practice buddy, Tom Luciano who just won Advanced. I've known him since he was a toddler; having flown with his father , Mike and brother, Michael since the mid -sixties as members of the Union Model Airplane Club Union , NJ.
. If there was ever a more deserving winner of a model airplane contest, I've yet to find out. Because Tom is a quiet guy, you won't hear much or anything in the way of complaining from him.
While it's not my place to tell you of the obstacles life has thrown in his way, I can say that most guys would've reeled up and gone on to something else long ago.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #88 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:00:01 AM »

Goodmorning everyone. We are live from the LPad in Muncie, IN. The first Open flight is up with Matt Colan on circle 3. The younger groups are working on 4. Here are the starting boards:

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #89 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:00:50 AM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #90 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:01:20 AM »

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #91 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:05:56 AM »

It is in the mid 70s with a little breeze blowing from the pavilion out across circle 3. Already a minor issue. The RC soaring crowd is flying and Launching just off the end of circle 1- drifting over the LPad. John Paris got on the radio....

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #92 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:06:58 AM »

Matt got a nice round of applause from the crowd upon a nice flight. Brett Buck next.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #93 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:14:05 AM »

Brett is just finishing . I clicked the RO Jett 61 at 5.35.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #94 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:15:41 AM »

The crowd approved the flight and Howard moves on. His new dog seems to be working well for him this week. Paul Walker is his holder.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #95 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:17:21 AM »

The six person judges team gets to their feet again and the machine is off. 5.22 for lap time. I’m

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #96 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:18:33 AM »

We are under a thunderstorm watch here till afternoon. It looks gloomy but not threatening yet.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #97 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:19:03 AM »

Nice triangles laid in.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #98 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:20:52 AM »

Vertical eights well done. Overhead intersections right on.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #99 on:** July 23, 2022, 06:23:15 AM »

This is the first year for the new entry into the clover. In early week practice I saw a few doing or starting to do it the old way. Haven’t noticed an goofs in front of the judges.