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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2021, 07:56:30 AM »
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We will begin processing at the LPad today at 1:00 pm.  There is a schedule floating around that says 2:30..... not so.  1:00 pm please.

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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2021, 08:02:01 AM »
  When is the trash talking gonna start!!!!??? LL~  I missed that last year with the gravity of the covid situation and such. Some of you guys are SO good at it!! Come On Man! Start slinging it!!
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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2021, 08:56:45 AM »
  When is the trash talking gonna start!!!!??? LL~  I missed that last year with the gravity of the covid situation and such. Some of you guys are SO good at it!! Come On Man! Start slinging it!!
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Itís already started via text messages! 😂

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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2021, 09:04:37 AM »
Itís already started via text messages! 😂

Yes, it has.

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« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2021, 10:48:07 AM »
Yes, it has.

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   Aw, that ain't fair. You gotta figure out a way to share! Some of us just want it for the entertainment value!
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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2021, 11:31:28 AM »
   Aw, that ain't fair. You gotta figure out a way to share! Some of us just want it for the entertainment value!
  Type at you later,
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We can move some of it here. I'm willing to trash talk anywhere,  especially considering I don't have a dog in this fight.

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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2021, 12:23:00 PM »
We can move some of it here. I'm willing to trash talk anywhere,  especially considering I don't have a dog in this fight.

Derek

   Yeah, that's what I mean!! You don't have to hold a model or launch anybody so you can really let loose! You're one of the better artists at this any way and hate to see you have a chance for your skills to maybe deteriorate at all since you didn't attend this year!! Just trying to look out for you as best I can!
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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2021, 12:25:09 PM »
  On a more serious note, is everyone that is expected to be there arrived OK. Lots of goofy weather and goofy drivers and other hazards can make travel a problem. I hope everyone had a safe trip there, has a safe NATS and a safe drive home.
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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2021, 03:08:42 PM »
Are these the flight order?

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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2021, 03:16:09 PM »
Hold on.  We found someone who didnít get checked in.  We will need to reshuffle.  Stand by.
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« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2021, 03:44:28 PM »
   Yeah, that's what I mean!! You don't have to hold a model or launch anybody so you can really let loose! You're one of the better artists at this any way and hate to see you have a chance for your skills to maybe deteriorate at all since you didn't attend this year!! Just trying to look out for you as best I can!
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The gist of it was; David is flying an old beater, Walkers nose is too long, and Brett has to remember how many loops to fly. They all appreciated my input.

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« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2021, 04:18:40 PM »
Ok we have the correction- only altered Group A.
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« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2021, 04:19:16 PM »
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« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2021, 06:29:45 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2021, 06:35:43 PM »
Great to see the number of entries this year. H^^ H^^
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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2021, 07:06:08 PM »
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Hey Dave, is there another sheet to the appearance points?

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« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2021, 07:37:38 PM »
Oh gee James I only saw the two.  I'm at the hotel now.  I'll look in the morning.  I know we have 69 processed.

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« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2021, 07:46:20 PM »
Oh gee James I only saw the two.  I'm at the hotel now.  I'll look in the morning.  I know we have 69 processed.

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My bad Dave, I saw the other sheet a few minutes ago.  Thanks.

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« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2021, 06:09:53 PM »
Contestants (especially Advanced) .  I was informed this afternoon we had two Open fliers who somehow ended up in the program as Advanced pilots.  I have no idea how this happened but after several hours of brainstorming and rework we made it work but it requires we reshuffle the circles and flying orders,  mostly just affecting the Advanced group.  As soon as I can I will post here the adjusted orders.  We may start a little late in the morning to give any who may not know of the changes time to get there and ready.  I apologize. 

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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2021, 07:12:38 PM »
"I'm willing to trash talk anywhere,  especially considering I don't have a dog in this fight."


Coz even when you dont have a dog in the fight you cant take the fight out of the dog.
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« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2021, 08:30:16 PM »
Dave, this sounds familiar to me....

These things happen, usually to me. Somehow as an Advanced entrant I was placed to fly first on the circle and Bob G would fly next. I thought it was not a big deal, I needed to start moving up anyway. Then Bob inquired what I was doing and I explained I was up first and had been moved to Open. The lid blew off! Somehow it was a big deal. Warren had to tell Shareen to do something, move me up or out, SOMETHING. 

Bob flew first, I waited until the computer people figured where to put me (I think I knew where some wanted me to go) and somehow they figured it out. I was in Advanced where I belonged, but, I came to realize how difficult it is to herd all these cats and my appreciation for the folks who make this happen skyrocketed.

Good job, Dave!

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« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2021, 11:44:08 PM »
Looking at the weigh-in charts is interesting. Weights ranged from 43.7 to 84.6 oz!!!   I can assume the weights in the 40ís are smaller profile planes, yes?  I can only imagine a full fuselage ship weighing in at over 84 oz. 
I wonder what engine such a ship has. Anyone got a picture of this one?

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« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2021, 04:15:35 AM »

P.S. Don't worry about me, one year off is just an gift for those guys that want to make the top 5 for for the first time. 😎

   Or the last time...

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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2021, 11:47:55 AM »
Looks like Bob Hunt had to make an impromptu inverted landing and apparently the 3 blade prop saved the canopy and only the v-stab was scratched.
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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2021, 12:13:36 PM »
Hold on.  We found someone who didnít get checked in.  We will need to reshuffle.  Stand by.

Seems to me that "Mr. didn't get checked in" should be penalized in some way...such as being first up on whatever circle in whatever group is appropriate. That's nuts, and inconsiderate.  VD~

Looks like Bob Hunt had to make an impromptu inverted landing and apparently the 3 blade prop saved the canopy and only the v-stab was damaged.

How could that happen? Electrons are supposed to be reliable and consistent, even if they have no soul.  S?P Steve
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« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2021, 02:10:59 PM »
Here are tomorrowís flight orders:
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« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2021, 02:26:36 PM »
Well,  as you might tell these flight orders look quite unusual.  This Nats will turn out to be perhaps the most unusual yet. 
Although today actually turned out to quite nice to fly other than a little cool and yesterday was decent for the unofficial events the weather before and now AFTER will go from challenging tomorrow to impossible for the rest of the week and weekend.  AMA came today to me and said the forecast for Friday and beyond was up to 4.5 inches of rain and continuing severe storms making any hope of flying fade away.  They asked us to compress our event in anyway possible and be done with it ASAP.  What I decided to do was use the scores from only today to pick the Top 20 in both Advanced and Open.  Then tomorrow we will run the semi finals and finals in their entirety as well as Jr and Senior.  Therefore we will be completely finished at the end of the day tomorrow and folks will head for home.  The last I saw early this morning it should stay dry by be pretty breezy. 

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« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2021, 04:54:44 PM »
That is sad news.  But now what happens if the forecasters were wrong? ???
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« Reply #85 on: June 23, 2021, 06:59:12 PM »
I imagine this means we are combining both flights in advanced, same rules as expert?

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« Reply #86 on: June 23, 2021, 07:10:48 PM »
I imagine this means we are combining both flights in advanced, same rules as expert?
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« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2021, 07:31:17 PM »
That is sad news.  But now what happens if the forecasters were wrong? ??? 
Doc if you'd see the strange weather here this week you wouldn't doubt it.  Whatever happens a  decision had to be made on the best info we had been given.  I hadn't given this any thought until I got word from AMA, based on the weather data they have.  It wouldn't be much fun sitting in a hotel room for two days hoping for a very small chance to fly.  Based only on having done this once in June,  I might be concerned about a repeat next year if asked due to the RC Worlds.  I had opportunity yesterday to have conversation with Chad Budreau (a very nice gentleman) about a few concerns and I plan to write a letter with some thoughts/hopes/requests I have going forward to address contest readiness,  overflight clash issues etc., to help my handoff to the next Nats ED.  For 2021 this Nats is nearly in the books.  The competitors are still great and greatly supportive of the difficult choices I've had to make this week at times and I am grateful.

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« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2021, 04:34:26 PM »
I'd like to thank Dave and Michelle for all the hard work they did.  It was a tough Nats and I agree with Dave's decision to wrap it all up by Thursday evening.  He made the best decision with the information he had at the time.

Thank you Dave and Michelle!
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« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2021, 04:56:46 PM »
I totally agree;  the entire crew did a great job.  With all the adjustments that had to be made due to the weather, the event ran very smoothly and the tabulators did a great job getting the scores out in a timely fashion. 
Thanks to all,

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Re: 2021 US National Championships CLPA Coverage......
« Reply #91 on: June 28, 2021, 03:26:34 PM »
Sorry, but I disagree with the changing of the format in
advance. As it turned out, it rained .24Ē on Friday and
it lasted for an hour; winds improved as the day went on.
You donít know until you know. Nothing should have been
changed until something actually happened.

Flying only two qualifying flights in front of only one
set of judges does not give a true representation of
scoring/flying/judging abilities. Iím not trying to cause
a ruckus here, I just brlieve that nothing should have
been done until something actually happened.

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« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2021, 12:26:50 PM »
Well after some E-mails I have gotten I think he AMA wanted everybody gone for a so called special event they planned.  I remember pitting a mouse in a drizzlely rain.  Also many times shutting down for electrical storms.  But, the NATS went on.  But if a vote was taken among all the contestants to do what was done I guess it is okay.   The out come might have been different.
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« Reply #93 on: June 29, 2021, 01:15:39 PM »
Vote? There were no votes.

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« Reply #94 on: June 29, 2021, 01:43:59 PM »
Jimby went back out to the AMA site on Sat to get something from AMA. He said the wind was totally unflyable then.

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« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2021, 10:17:22 AM »
I think Dave looked at the data and made the right decision.
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« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2021, 01:55:17 PM »
Very easy to second guess.....especially when dealing with weather guessers.....

I believe that Dave did the right thing, and, maybe more importantly, he stuck by his decision.

Years ago Intermediate had around 18 entries. we planned to fly on two circles with both flights counting. We flew the first round no problem. The sky turned black and Brenda wheeled by and allowed as the AMA had suspended flying FOR THE DAY!!

Very scary.

Rained buckets. My tent blew away. I adjourned to a motel and normalized the scores.

It didn't make a few happy, but most of the judges were polishing or something and a second round was impossible.

Things could have been worse.

Thanks Dave.

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« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2021, 02:28:16 PM »
As long as everybody is happy, what can I say except, I hope you all had fun. H^^
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