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Title: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 12, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
I am here. I pulled into the AMA site and just as I got the camera out the wind came up and they called the scale competition until it clears. So I checked into the room. As I drove by Lee's it's still closed. What a shame but where we are at it's nice and it's clean, as more reports are available and it look like I might be able to upload video I will do so on this thread.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 12, 2014, 01:40:34 PM
Layla, Gavin, Dad, and I are here. Just checked into the Baymont.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Paul Taylor on July 12, 2014, 02:20:18 PM
Woot!
Thanks Sparky!
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Eric Viglione on July 12, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
Just checked in at the holiday... Ya, a bit windy at the moment. Too bad about the Lees Inn, i was looking forward to seeing how the remodel would come out. Gotta pull those permits folks! I also heard code enforcment took a bite out of them.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Paul Taylor on July 13, 2014, 07:34:55 AM
Hey Sparky
Can you get some video on the Classic circle of a blue and orange plane?  ;D

And tell momma Jo howdy.

Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Randy Powell on July 13, 2014, 01:13:36 PM
Look forward to following this thread.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 13, 2014, 07:47:56 PM
It was very windy today, 15 mph with gust to probably 18. Not much flying was done other than Beginner and Intermediate. The wind did calm down to pretty much stunt heaven around 8 o-clock. I did not go back to the field but I got reports that other people were flying. I spent my afternoon rebuffing the Cutlass. Appearance judging is tomorrow at 2:30.

There should be more to talk about tomorrow, I will try to get some pictures posted then too.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: wwwarbird on July 13, 2014, 09:06:13 PM
Look forward to following this thread.

 Ditto. y1
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on July 14, 2014, 05:09:55 AM
Looking forward to reports and pictures.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 14, 2014, 06:46:58 AM
Well because of weather I didn't get much video. So here is a short (very short) clip of what I did get before the shut down. Today is the appearance judging and pilots meeting and I will get all of that.

http://youtu.be/moE5yt3UlGA
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 14, 2014, 01:26:09 PM
Thanks for the little bit of video.   I seem to remember some of the faces.   Too bad about the wind.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Paul Taylor on July 14, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
Good stuff.

I pinned this thread so it will be easy to find. 😊
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Tom Luciano on July 14, 2014, 05:25:34 PM
Funny thing is, it took me a while to find it!
Looking forward to it!

Hope someone gets some good video as well.


Thanks,
Tom
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Matt Colan on July 14, 2014, 05:35:30 PM
Saw this on Jason Greer's facebook page, and asked him if I could post it. Here is the front row at the NATS this year, no 20 pointers but there were three 19 point airplanes.

The pilots of these planes are Kaz, Howard and Paul.

Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 14, 2014, 06:05:00 PM
Good stuff.

I pinned this thread so it will be easy to find. 😊

Took me a while to find it too. I never look at the pinned stuff.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 14, 2014, 06:06:46 PM
Pictures from this morning.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 14, 2014, 06:09:00 PM
a few more
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 14, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
Bob was really excited to be at the pilots meeting.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 14, 2014, 06:17:23 PM
Appearance judging at the 180 building.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 14, 2014, 06:18:19 PM
one more for tonight.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: kenny stevens on July 14, 2014, 06:39:51 PM
I am missing this soooooooooo bad.   I will be up to see you guys at the end of the week, good luck all and calm winds to.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 14, 2014, 07:12:52 PM
Appearance judging

http://youtu.be/NhWJQD7jBb0
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Norm Faith Jr. on July 14, 2014, 09:10:14 PM
http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35876.0;attach=148843;image

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35876.0;attach=148842;image)

Like someone once said..."it looked like a big basket of beautiful colored Easter eggs." The display of TRUE craftsmanship.
Maybe next year for me. Good Luck and mild winds to everyone.

edit image
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 14, 2014, 09:25:21 PM
Museum


http://youtu.be/9t59SPrIXVE
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Shug Emery on July 14, 2014, 10:33:46 PM
Sitting here on a hard chair leaning into the computer to glom the NATS control line glory.
Thanks for all the pix and video. Those planes in the gym are just amazing. Was just reading the Paul Walker article in the Jan/Feb Stunt News on that plane. Cool to see he got in the front row.
Shug
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Rick Bollinger on July 15, 2014, 07:16:16 AM
Please post beginner and intermediate scores.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 15, 2014, 11:01:51 AM
Thanks for the videos and pics guys.   Now I'm going to go to the AMA site to see if they have the daily reports again this year.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on July 15, 2014, 11:34:07 AM
I am always surprised that they allow the troops to wander in and around the appearance judging.  I saw that also for many years at VSC.  I always stayed well clear.  I did not want to be the one who tripped and smashed someone's plane.

Floyd
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on July 15, 2014, 11:54:24 AM
Robert,
Thanks for showing the appearance judging.

The quality and workmanship from the front to the rear is outstanding.

For those that object to appearance points, if they had their way we would never see this magnificent display of beautiful airplanes in one place again.  This is a tradition that is part of the soul of our event! I hope that we never lose it.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 15, 2014, 12:02:20 PM
Just came from the AMA site.   Spent time catching up on the doings at Muncie before coming back here.   Have new reporters covering the different CL catagories this year.   Also some results posted in the daily Newsletter of NATS News.   Go under competition on the AMA site and click on NATS News.


http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/nats/natsnews.aspx
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Norm Faith Jr. on July 15, 2014, 12:55:55 PM
Robert,
Thanks for showing the appearance judging.

The quality and workmanship from the front to the rear is outstanding.

For those that object to appearance points, if they had their way we would never see this magnificent display of beautiful airplanes in one place again.  This is a tradition that is part of the soul of our event! I hope that we never lose it.

AMEN! Tom.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: proparc on July 15, 2014, 07:23:00 PM
http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35876.0;attach=148843;image

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35876.0;attach=148842;image)

Like someone once said..."it looked like a big basket of beautiful colored Easter eggs." The display of TRUE craftsmanship.
Maybe next year for me. Good Luck and mild winds to everyone.

edit image

This is the best appearance judging photo I have ever seen. Whoever took this shot understands the fundamentals of perspective,killer angles, also depth of field and f stop
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 15, 2014, 08:56:39 PM
This is the best appearance judging photo I have ever seen. Whoever took this shot understands the fundamentals of perspective,killer angles, also depth of field and f stop

Thank you!

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 15, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
Dan Banjok's ACME rocket plane at the 2014 NATS

http://youtu.be/oS25EjfYXWs
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 15, 2014, 11:07:04 PM
Howard's flight


http://youtu.be/7CjQyKfKGss
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Dennis Moritz on July 16, 2014, 04:18:02 AM
Longest interview of Dan Banjok ever. Howard's flying looks good. Motor break is no doubt assisted by sub atomic controllers. Are the black bugs moving again.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on July 16, 2014, 05:55:28 AM
Classic?????
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 16, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
Thought I knew the young man on the Banjok video and then when Grandpa Bill stepped in it came to me young Ryan.   

Also at first on Howards video it didn't look like him as I remember.   It has been a couple of years.  Who was the young man launching for him?
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Randy Powell on July 16, 2014, 09:52:21 AM
Howard looks a bit inconsistent, but then, Howard is that sort of guy. Hope he locks in.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Dennis Moritz on July 16, 2014, 10:12:27 AM
Howard always looks like he's falling over. Even when he's not flying. The plane tracks much better than that.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 16, 2014, 01:22:33 PM
Classic?????

Some guy named Derek Barry won Classic followed by Joe Gilbert and John Simpson.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Robby Hunt on July 16, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
Howard flying something orange is quite classic.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Randy Powell on July 16, 2014, 02:55:46 PM
And yellow. Don't forget the yellow. I think Howard doesn't really realize there are other colors available. Plane looks good in spite of Howard looking like he's going to stumble every lap. Good luck to him!
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on July 16, 2014, 03:05:52 PM
Congrats Derek, Joe and John!!

Marcus
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Brad Smith on July 16, 2014, 03:12:13 PM
what did you fly in classic Derek ?
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Andrew Saunders on July 16, 2014, 03:57:06 PM
Heres the Beginners results.

Jr./Sr. class

1st place- Ben Mills

2nd Place- Aedin Woods

Open Class

1st place- Terry Bentley

2nd Place- John Park

3rd Place- David Betz

4th Place- Andrew Saunders

5th Place- Carl Wiener

6th Place- Bill Gray

Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Matt Colan on July 16, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
what did you fly in classic Derek ?

According to NatsNews, Derek flew a Nakke.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 16, 2014, 05:01:09 PM
Couldn't get a good view of District 'leven PAMPA Dictator Mike Haverly's "Sultan" in the AP Video. But think that was it on the end of the 16 point row, right behind Sparky's "Continental Plus" (?).

If you want to keep up with the proceedings, sign up the the daily "NATS News". Pretty good coverage...but make sure you look at the 2014 NATS, 'cause the 2013 NATS reports are just below. Makes no sense to me, but a lot of AMA's website makes no sense.  H^^ Steve

Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 16, 2014, 05:19:28 PM
My Flight


http://youtu.be/pzmc9_gHDug
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Zuriel Armstrong on July 16, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
Congratulations to Ben Mills....and James and Beth. 
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Crist Rigotti on July 16, 2014, 07:06:29 PM
My Flight


http://youtu.be/pzmc9_gHDug

What?, I thought you weren't going to enter?
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Tim Wescott on July 16, 2014, 07:39:43 PM
Howard just called the TUT Technical Support Line with either a bug report, a request for clarification on the operating instructions, or an inquiry about the effects of the settings on the perception of the pilot.  Neither of us were sure at the end of the call which it was.

He mentioned that he came in first in his circle, but that it was only by one point because some guy named Derek gained lots of points (15?) from the 1st round to the 2nd.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Randy Powell on July 16, 2014, 09:20:50 PM
Glad to see all that evening practice is paying off for my favorite clown.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 03:53:04 AM
According to NatsNews, Derek flew a Nakke.

That is correct, I flew dad's Nakke.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:06:41 AM

He mentioned that he came in first in his circle, but that it was only by one point because some guy named Derek gained lots of points (15?) from the 1st round to the 2nd.

Yes, I went up a little slow on my first flight. Second flight was much better except for the squares which could have been compared to something a mid level Intermediate could have done. I will try to knock Howard out of that top spot today...

On a side note; Howard is flying very well with his new world champs plane.  :)

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Curt D Contrata on July 17, 2014, 06:44:17 AM
Who is there flying?
How many entries in Open?
Any shots of the scoreboards available?

Curt
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Les McDonald on July 17, 2014, 08:05:58 AM
Dave? Dave? Dave Trible are you there?
Please say you're gonna give us some real time commentary and information when the big guys are flying.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 17, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
Sparky,  you are going to get irritated at me, but what I seen that video, I hope your next two flights are mucho better.   The take off was way to quick in my opinion and using the background for reference your maneuvers were all over the place.   There is more I could add but, it would probably just get you up set at me.  I was not there and do not know the weather conditions and I know on the tarmac there is turbulence.   Anyway I hope you make the top twenty.   Also the video man need to be further back even tho it looked like he was where a person would stand to judge a flight.   Maybe in person the flight was better than the video shows.  Who knows, now you can tar and feather me.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Dave_Trible on July 17, 2014, 02:56:08 PM
Dave? Dave? Dave Trible are you there?
Please say you're gonna give us some real time commentary and information when the big guys are flying.
Les I'm here!  I will try to input some here as I can.  Been talking less and flying more-enough to qualify here today.  It kind of came down to that but I'm sure a few others will pick up the slack.  Stay tuned!

Dave
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
I am processing some pictures now, I will get them posted soon guys.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:26:31 PM
Here are a few pictures from today.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:34:56 PM
Allen Brickhaus memorial fly inn at AMA headquarters.

Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:36:01 PM
Allen Brickhaus memorial fly inn at AMA headquarters.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:36:47 PM
Allen Brickhaus memorial fly inn at AMA headquarters.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:37:51 PM
Nice jacket PJ.  LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 17, 2014, 04:39:59 PM
A couple more.

The only scoreboard picture I took was of my circle and I feel kinda bad about posting only mine. I will wait to see if anyone had all four circles...

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Brett Buck on July 17, 2014, 04:53:26 PM
A couple more.

The only scoreboard picture I took was of my circle and I feel kinda bad about posting only mine. I will wait to see if anyone had all four circles...

Derek

 Derek is being modest, the reason he doesn't want to post it is because he got a 596.67.

     Brett

   
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 17, 2014, 05:29:13 PM
Yes DOC I said I made some mistakes but the rule is 15 foot. They would rather you roll more. That's not what I am aggravated at. Congrats to all who made the cut. My flight on the other circle was much better but still not a good enough score. I wound up 8th. Joe Gilbert thought it was a 540 but as always I got a 522. Never enough. I wish Joe was judging.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 17, 2014, 05:34:57 PM
Well at least you are trying and that is better than I can say for myself.   Just need some work here and there on the pattern.   
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: William DeMauro on July 17, 2014, 06:44:23 PM
Since nobody with a better camera put up scoreboard pictures. I will put up the ones I took with my phone. Sorry for the poor quality but I think they will be readable. Sorry for the one cutoff score.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Jason Greer on July 17, 2014, 09:40:30 PM
Good luck in the finals everyone! Wish I'd flown better and was able to participate!
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Norm Faith Jr. on July 17, 2014, 11:00:36 PM
Good luck in the finals everyone! Wish I'd flown better and was able to participate!

I didn't see anything to hang your head about...Just being able to post those type of scores at a National Championship, is a feat in itself. After looking at all of the scores; it looks as if Barry and Fitzgerald are showing the way, with Howard close by. Sure wish I was there.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 18, 2014, 03:10:58 AM
Speed clips

http://youtu.be/o2NOt0pIjZk
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Mike Ferguson on July 18, 2014, 08:37:38 AM
Here's the spreadsheet of scores for Open, Advanced, and Expert, based on the photos above.

If someone has Joe Bowman's Open scores for Thursday, let me know, and I'll plug them into the Excel attachment.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: steven yampolsky on July 18, 2014, 09:03:46 AM
Derek is being modest, the reason he doesn't want to post it is because he got a 596.67.

Go Derek! No offense to others but Derek is the only one who offered to introduce me to The Beer bush!
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Curt D Contrata on July 18, 2014, 01:49:50 PM
Is everyone at Pizza King instead of reporting?
Who made the top 5?

Curt
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Tim Wescott on July 18, 2014, 02:01:41 PM
Is everyone at Pizza King instead of reporting?
Who made the top 5?

Curt

It's here: http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php/topic,35949.0.html (http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php/topic,35949.0.html).

Howard, Dave, Paul, Brett and some guy from across the mountains (Hi Doug) made the cut.  Not in that order.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Les McDonald on July 18, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Is everyone at Pizza King instead of reporting?
Who made the top 5?

Curt

Curt, let me help you out.
This thread is for the tourists. I greatly appreciate Sparkys videos and all the great photos from Derek and some others but the real time action can be found at the 2014 Nats Action Coverage thread from Dave Trible.
Get up early tomorrow and follow Dave throughout his posting of the finals------live, as it's happening.
 Dave Trible is to stunt what Jim Nance and Nick Faldo are to golf. What the Boggity Boggity Boggity guy is to NASCAR. What John Madden was to the NFL. What Dick Vit------------just check it out in the morning.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: john e. holliday on July 18, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
Myself, I don't get up that early.   LL~ LL~  But, I'm glad we have Dave Trible to keep us updated and glad he took time to concentrate on making the top twenty.   He has worked a long time to be competitive in stunt.  I still remember the young lad flying I think a Guillows Trainer in balloon burst many years ago with his Dad launching.    He has come a long way.   Lets hope top five day is perfect stunt weather.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 18, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
Curt, let me help you out.
This thread is for the tourists. I greatly appreciate Sparkys videos and all the great photos from Derek and some others but the real time action can be found at the 2014 Nats Action Coverage thread from Dave Trible.
Get up early tomorrow and follow Dave throughout his posting of the finals------live, as it's happening.
 Dave Trible is to stunt what Jim Nance and Nick Faldo are to golf. What the Boggity Boggity Boggity guy is to NASCAR. What John Madden was to the NFL. What Dick Vit------------just check it out in the morning.

I can not post from the field sorry. Dave can
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Randy Ryan on July 18, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
I had the privilege of judging this year, both appearance and flight. As a panel we really worked hard on the groupings for scores, even came to a couple points if mild contention over a couple models, but in the end, we agreed unanimously on our decisions are hard as it got. When you get to 18, 19 and 20 point models it really comes down the finest details where then might be some minor, and I mean nearly invisible, flaws in the paint of prep or fits. It pretty incredibly how it comes down to that.

I enjoyed flight judging, but then I always do. I won't say anymore about that but it was a very good experience. Everyone should judge, I guarantee it would make you a better pilot.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 18, 2014, 08:04:36 PM
Deric Berry

http://youtu.be/j59ZXa0gJJY

Not the best shooting sorry
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 19, 2014, 03:35:32 AM
Billy

http://youtu.be/wy2oLXwPj4c
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 20, 2014, 11:56:14 AM
Now that the action is over I guess everyone is traveling home. Have a safe trip and it was good to see everyone.
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Bill Mohrbacher on July 20, 2014, 02:13:30 PM
A few more shots from the Flyoffs on Saturday
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Les McDonald on July 20, 2014, 03:16:30 PM
This very last photo is nothing short of "epic".
Can you imagine how many gallons of fuel these guys have burned in the past 60 years. (This is not a question!)
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: Derek Barry on July 20, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
This very last photo is nothing short of "epic".
Can you imagine how many gallons of fuel these guys have burned in the past 60 years. (This is not a question!)


I agree Les, if only we could get you back to Muncie. As a judge would be great but just to see you there would be good enough. Take care!

Also, Congrats to Dave for another Nats win and to the rest of the top five for a good showing. I will get you guys next year.

Derek
Title: Re: 2014 NATS reports
Post by: RC Storick on July 23, 2014, 07:06:37 AM
I have traveled to Muncie for the last 10 Years and every year it seems to get cooler and cooler. I guess it must be Global warming but this year I wore sweaters and jackets. I guess as Global warming takes over I will need to bring long johns.