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Title: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dave_Trible on June 08, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
I saw where Derek suggested it was time and we are straining at the leash to begin this sacred act.  The rules are as follows;

1.

2.

3.

To begin I'll just say Desperado is going to a gunfight.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Reptoid on June 08, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
Very nice looking airplane Dave
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dave_Trible on June 08, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
Very nice looking airplane Dave
Thank you. 
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Steve Helmick on June 08, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
When is the chit flingin' going to start? Where's Derek and Howard when we need'um? This is too dull, IMO... ;) ;) ;)  Steve

PS: Howard is at the Auburn Airport (Dick Scobee Field) right now. Practising, and testing a mega-spread of VGs, assuming that the JCT has finished his DQ cone. Derek must be buffing his new dawg. 
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: john e. holliday on June 09, 2013, 07:49:49 AM
With all the bantering of last year, how close was it?   Or who did come the closest to forcasting the Open results?   And Dave if get it together on the official days like I have seen you fly before, you should be in contention for the Walker.  Just don't trim yourself out of the running like another individual we know.   Remember the first Chickopee NATS?
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dave_Trible on June 09, 2013, 03:01:14 PM
In looking at the early entries so far I see 22 open, 7 Advanced and 9 in the new Expert class.  It would appear many are moving up from advanced rather than over from Open.......

Dave
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Steve Fitton on June 09, 2013, 09:11:11 PM
I saw Derek's new plane flying this weekend.  It looks very, very good.  He put up dozens of  practice flights with it.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 09, 2013, 10:58:04 PM
I saw my plane flying this weekend.  It looked good too.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Larry Fernandez on June 09, 2013, 11:36:47 PM
I wish that I could fly good enough to participate in the "Trash Talk"
When it came to baseball and street racing, I considered myself an authority on "Trash Talk".

I have a pretty good idea of what it takes to make the big time in Control Line Precision Aerobatics, and you are all heros in my book.
All of you hot shots have my due respect, and I wish you all the best at the upcoming NATS.

Fly your best and have a great time doing it.

It looks like my favorites, Brett, Dave and Ted will not be competing, so my money is on Paul, Howard, Derek and Doug, in that order.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!  I wish I could be there.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 10, 2013, 04:18:12 AM
Sorry guys I was busy polishing my towering awesomeness this weekend and did not have time to participate in the trash talk. Now I am back to work where I have unlimited internet time so, game on!

I pity the fools who come to Muncie with delusions of beating the Cutlass and I. You all will be weighed, you all will be measured, and you all will be found wanting.

Good luck!

My prediction is

1. Me
 
2. Doug and Paul can fight for second...



Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 10, 2013, 04:19:09 AM
I saw my plane flying this weekend.  It looked good too.   ;D ;D ;D

You glue those vortex gaybulators to it yet?

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 10, 2013, 05:48:38 AM
In looking at the early entries so far I see 22 open, 7 Advanced and 9 in the new Expert class.  It would appear many are moving up from advanced rather than over from Open.......

Dave

 And "some people" said it would be the opposite...

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 10, 2013, 06:34:02 AM
Sorry guys I was busy polishing my towering awesomeness...

I hope that tower isnt too tall.  Because it's gonna hurt when you fall off of it.

I pity the fools who come to Muncie with delusions....

Interviewer: “What’s your prediction for the fight?”
Clubber: “My prediction?”
Interviewer: “Yes your prediction.”
Clubber: (slowly looking into the Camera) “Pain!”


I said it before and I well say it again.

1. Me
2. everyone else.  

;D ;D

I really have no idea how this will turn out, plane is flying like crap and we have had ZERO weather here this year. I have had 6 practice flights since February! I will be doing good to make the top 20.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Eric Viglione on June 10, 2013, 07:55:02 AM
I witnessed the aforementioned polishing of the towering awesomness... yes, that's right, some knucklehead actually suggested he go out and break tradition and practice. What were they thinking!!!!
"Gulliver, We're doomed! All doomed!! DOOOOOMED"  

Except me of course, I'm going to sneak up and kick all y'alls butts with my new PA75 Katana... bwaahahahahahahahahahahah! Thppppptt!!

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Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Powell on June 10, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
Let's see:

1. Dave
2. Paul
3. Brett
4. Howard.

Oh, wait, that was the placing at the NWR. Hmmm, could be repeated except that Derek will slip in there somewhere.   LL~
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Eric Viglione on June 10, 2013, 03:07:09 PM
There are several dark horses too, if they would just show up... One in particular took a lay off, and dare I say, his pattern looks improved to the point where lay-off's were suggested as a required part of his normal routine. ...And this is someone no stranger to the top 5 to begin with...  :o

 S?P

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Matt Colan on June 10, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
Derek, don't you remember from my experience at king orange that VGs create a laminar flow such that the low pressure sucked it off my plane.

Now, my predictions for the NATS after careful analysis is:

Derek, Paul Doug.

Good luck guys!! Wish I could be there
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 11, 2013, 04:35:36 AM
Derek, don't you remember from my experience at king orange that VGs create a laminar flow such that the low pressure sucked it off my plane.

Now, my predictions for the NATS after careful analysis is:

Derek, Paul Doug.

Good luck guys!! Wish I could be there

Thanks Matt,

I never said that VGs do not work. This is the "trash talk" thread, remember.  ;)

Derek

P.S. Good luck at Brodak's!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on June 11, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Remember, the PREDATOR is on the hunt for you!


In my first fly off, the Predator came out ahead of last years Nats plane, even with it's updates.

The Predator is now ready for prime time.

Remember, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards.  My planes are moving forward, your's aren't. Be prepared for the outcome!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on June 11, 2013, 02:23:11 PM
My planes are moving forward, your's aren't.

It's merely a matter of switching a couple of motor leads.  Then I'll be ready for Teddy.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Eric Viglione on June 11, 2013, 03:06:35 PM
OK, I'll stop trash talking for just a second...People, ya still gotta do that pilot thing. We all didn't run out and build B-17's for some reason either...

Back to trash talk...

Time for the sage wisdom of the all knowing RB. We wuz all last in 2012 except for Dougie, cuz RB says so! Y'all better prepare to be last again!
EricV

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RandySmith on June 11, 2013, 03:22:16 PM
Remember, the PREDATOR is on the hunt for you!


In my first fly off, the Predator came out ahead of last years Nats plane, even with it's updates.

The Predator is now ready for prime time.

Remember, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards.  My planes are moving forward, your's aren't. Be prepared for the outcome!

WELL ROOSTER  ...." Thats  pretty BOLD talk coming from a one-eyed fat man ! "
OH YES  Progress has not stopped, indeed they are moving forward....The planes indeed have improved, much so..we shall see come Muncie !!



Randy
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: proparc on June 11, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
I hope that tower isnt too tall.  Because it's gonna hurt when you fall off of it.

Interviewer: “What’s your prediction for the fight?”
Clubber: “My prediction?”
Interviewer: “Yes your prediction.”
Clubber: (slowly looking into the Camera) “Pain!”


I said it before and I well say it again.

1. Me
2. everyone else.  

;D ;D


That"s right baby!! You don't win contests going in thinking you are going to lose. If you do that, you've lost already.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 12, 2013, 04:31:00 AM
Remember, the PREDATOR is on the hunt for you!


In my first fly off, the Predator came out ahead of last years Nats plane, even with it's updates.

The Predator is now ready for prime time.


My Cutlass will filet any "Predator" that comes its way.

Remember, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards.  My planes are moving forward, your's aren't. Be prepared for the outcome!


Whatever helps you sleep at night Paul.  ;)

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 12, 2013, 09:18:58 AM
I looked up Riff Raff in the freeonlinedictionary,

riff·raff (rfrf)
n.
1. People regarded as disreputable or worthless.
2. Rubbish; trash.

So, I want you guys to keep on thinking the above applies...

Then all of a sudden this thing will stomp in from nowhere with no one lookig for it!! BOOM!!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dave_Trible on June 12, 2013, 09:35:42 AM
Sounds like a former mother in law Doug.

Dave
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 12, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
Sounds like a former mother in law Doug.

Dave

  LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Brett Buck on June 12, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
My Cutlass will filet any "Predator" that comes its way.


Whatever helps you sleep at night Paul.  ;)

    Now this thread is showing some promise!  I am sure we will get to the usual level of delusional, egomaniacal, bullsh*t very soon now!

    It's also quite illuminating in terms of psychology, more or less the internet equivalent of whistling in a graveyard.

    Brett
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Cuberly on June 12, 2013, 11:28:27 AM
Uhhh...everyone seems to be forgetting that Gentleman from the east that will definitely be in the "Hunt"...pun intended...I believe he is primed to do it again!

He's a good bet to "Shoot the Moon", "Run the Walker", and "Pick the Berry".  LL~ LL~ LL~

Good Luck!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: jose modesto on June 12, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
Don't forget a 2x NATS champion,3X  FAI team member,  bronze medal and multiple team  world champion
He will be there.
With new power package
Jose Modesto
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on June 12, 2013, 02:13:42 PM
Uhhh...everyone seems to be forgetting that Gentleman from the east that will definitely be in the "Hunt"...pun intended...I believe he is primed to do it again!

He's a good bet to "Shoot the Moon", "Run the Walker", and "Pick the Berry".  LL~ LL~ LL~

He'd better get there early and practice if he's gonna beat the Rush.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 13, 2013, 05:07:54 AM
   Now this thread is showing some promise!  I am sure we will get to the usual level of delusional, egomaniacal, bullsh*t very soon now!

    Brett

Thought we were already there?

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 13, 2013, 05:10:29 AM
He'd better get there early and practice if he's gonna beat the Rush.

Your planes are orange,
you fly real nice.
Don't run out of gas,
that's my advice!

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 13, 2013, 07:25:26 AM
Got a couple of flights in last night.... 

First one at dusk.

Second one,,,,,I like using the moon as a marker for intersections. 

I can't fly during the day
So, I fly at night
Most think there is no way
But Riff Raff will dominate at first light
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Eric Viglione on June 13, 2013, 07:46:39 AM
Hickory Dickory Dock,
Night Flying With No Windsock,
The Chimes Struck Nine, And All Was Fine,
...Until Katana Cleaned Your Clock.

 VD~

Aw heck, it's all in good fun...why not? And I didn't say who's Katana...but preferably MINE. Heh heh.

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 13, 2013, 08:18:29 AM

Aw heck, it's all in good fun...why not? And I didn't say who's Katana...but preferably MINE. Heh heh.



hee hee hee, I love it!!  keep it coming!!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Martin Quartim on June 13, 2013, 11:16:36 PM
Uhhh...everyone seems to be forgetting that Gentleman from the east that will definitely be in the "Hunt"...pun intended...I believe he is primed to do it again!

He's a good bet to "Shoot the Moon", "Run the Walker", and "Pick the Berry".  LL~ LL~ LL~

Good Luck!

Randy Cuberly


very goood Randy!   LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

Martin
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Powell on June 14, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
OK, you guys are having too much fun. Tone it down. Some of us are trying to sleep.   LL~
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Mike Keville on June 14, 2013, 09:09:51 PM
Don't overlook electric flyer Chip Hyde.  He's been off the radar lately.  Maybe out practicing a lot?   y1
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on June 14, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
I was out to the "ranch" Friday and saw that Walker guy fly. Wow, he is looking great!!!

He said he was getting ready for the first "kill" for the Predator at a competition next weekend. Once it gets a taste of blood in its mouth it will be hard to stop at the NAT's.

Watch out for that plane!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Brett Buck on June 14, 2013, 09:50:08 PM
I was out to the "ranch" Friday and saw that Walker guy fly. Wow, he is looking great!!!

He said he was getting ready for the first "kill" for the Predator at a competition next weekend. Once it gets a taste of blood in its mouth it will be hard to stop at the NAT's.

    Wow. Therapist Joe would have a field day with this post.

     Brett
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RandySmith on June 14, 2013, 09:57:32 PM
Don't overlook electric flyer Chip Hyde.  He's been off the radar lately.  Maybe out practicing a lot?   y1



LOL...  "electric flyer"  Chip is out flying  his  IC  aerobatic planes  !!    LL~ LL~

Randy
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 15, 2013, 05:13:34 AM

LOL...  "electric flyer"  Chip is out flying  his  IC  aerobatic planes  !!    LL~ LL~

Randy

You saw that too. He really seems to like that pipe setup!  8)

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on June 26, 2013, 03:18:39 PM
Dang Predator......Flew in its first contest and was not able to put up a 600 point score.  Only got a 599.5..

I guess I'll have to get out last years plane as it has proven that it can get 600 point scores on a regular basis.

Oh well, the best laid plans!  :(
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on June 26, 2013, 03:34:06 PM
What really rattled him was that the FDHA did not have the usual 20-point margin above the JV.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on June 26, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Dang Predator......Flew in its first contest and was not able to put up a 600 point score.  Only got a 599.5..

I guess I'll have to get out last years plane as it has proven that it can get 600 point scores on a regular basis.

Oh well, the best laid plans!  :(

599.5, that's it...  Come on Bro!  There's more in the tank,,,er,,,,uh,,,,Battery!!! ;D ;D ;D

I sneaked in a 590 on Father's day.  But that's along way from 599.5.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: PJ Rowland on June 29, 2013, 06:07:30 PM
Trash talk - I can do that...

US Nats :

If your not running VG's you wont make Top 5.

and you will be GREEN with envy at those that did make it...

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on June 29, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
Yeah, VG's or not, things aren't going well. I probably won't make the trip that far east.

Too bad...:(
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 30, 2013, 05:58:20 AM
Trash talk - I can do that...

US Nats :

If your not running VG's you wont make Top 5.

and you will be GREEN with envy at those that did make it...



I don't have to glue little things all over my wing to make my plane fly.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on June 30, 2013, 05:59:34 AM
Yeah, VG's or not, things aren't going well. I probably won't make the trip that far east.

Too bad...:(

Sorry to hear that Paul, I hope your situation improves...

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: PJ Rowland on June 30, 2013, 06:52:13 AM

I don't have to glue little things all over my wing to make my plane fly.

Are you sure ?

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: M Spencer on June 30, 2013, 07:06:28 AM
And I thought they were Mouse Droppings !  %^@
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dale Barry on June 30, 2013, 09:52:31 AM
I don't have to glue little things all over my wing to make my plane fly.

Are you sure ?



Yep, I have flown it. It is awesome as is.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: M Spencer on June 30, 2013, 10:34:13 PM
oops . wrong Fred .
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 01, 2013, 12:13:16 AM
Yeah, VG's or not, things aren't going well. I probably won't make the trip that far east.

Too bad...:(

Paul, I know how intimidating this trash talking can be.  I think the way to get your self-confidence back is to add lots more vortex generators.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 01, 2013, 06:31:26 AM
Yep, I have flown it. It is awesome as is.

Derek

But maybe it could be even more awesomer!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 01, 2013, 06:49:59 AM
But maybe it could be even more awesomer!

Give up two appearance points???? Sorry, I am entirely to vain about my planes.

The plane will already do a perfect pattern. How much more perfect can perfect get?  ;)


Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 01, 2013, 06:54:28 AM
I truly hope that Paul is just messing with us and nothing is wrong. However, it will not change the outcome...

1. PA 65

2. PA 65

3-40. Who cares...

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 01, 2013, 09:01:12 AM
Give up two appearance points???? Sorry, I am entirely to vain about my planes.

The plane will already do a perfect pattern. How much more perfect can perfect get?  ;)


Derek

Pefect.....  stepping on out there now huh?

Hahahaha!  You will be watching perfect from outside the circle....   ;D

 
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 01, 2013, 09:39:09 AM
Pefect.....  stepping on out there now huh?

Hahahaha!  You will be watching perfect from outside the circle....   ;D

 

Only if you video me flying and we watch it standing next to the circle.

BOOM!

LOL

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 01, 2013, 09:45:06 AM
Only if you video me flying and we watch it standing next to the circle.

BOOM!

LOL

Derek

hhahahahahaahhaah!  I will bring out the big screen and we can sit by the circle all night watching your perfect patterns!  It will be awesome. Of course the TX  road house has to fit in there somewhere. 
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 01, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
hhahahahahaahhaah!  I will bring out the big screen and we can sit by the circle all night watching your perfect patterns!  It will be awesome. Of course the TX  road house has to fit in there somewhere. 

Man I almost forgot the second most important part of coming to Muncie. The Texas Roadhouse!!!

I still partly remember the night that John Grigsby, Steve M., and I shut that place down! Flying was interesting the next day to say the least.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dave_Trible on July 01, 2013, 11:55:16 AM
I will be flying to new heights with zig zags.

Dave
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 01, 2013, 12:24:12 PM
I will be flying to new heights with zig zags.

Dave

Rock on Dave!

See you there in a couple weeks.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on July 01, 2013, 12:43:40 PM
Jeez guys....you are WAY ahead if me.  If I make it to Muncie I sure hope to make the top 10......Seeing that I don't have a PA 65, and my   l-a-m-e  electric motor is having issues with running at the same speed. Hope it gets worked out.

HOPE to see you at the Texas road kill!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RandySmith on July 01, 2013, 12:52:16 PM
Jeez guys....you are WAY ahead if me.  If I make it to Muncie I sure hope to make the top 10......Seeing that I don't have a PA 65, and my   l-a-m-e  electric motor is having issues with running at the same speed. Hope it gets worked out.

HOPE to see you at the Texas road kill!

Paul
There is NOTHING wrong with that motor, that a new one won't cure :-)

Randy
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 01, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
Jeez guys....you are WAY ahead if me.  If I make it to Muncie I sure hope to make the top 10......Seeing that I don't have a PA 65, and my   l-a-m-e  electric motor is having issues with running at the same speed. Hope it gets worked out.

HOPE to see you at the Texas road kill!

Something like family issues keeping you from the Nats I could believe. Not having a plane that works??? Nice try bud. See you there!

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dave_Trible on July 01, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
Predators are known to lurk just under the surface looking to strike.

Dave
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 01, 2013, 04:34:08 PM
Jeez guys....you are WAY ahead if me.  If I make it to Muncie I sure hope to make the top 10......Seeing that I don't have a PA 65, and my   l-a-m-e  electric motor is having issues with running at the same speed. Hope it gets worked out.

I heard about that issue.  It's not the only one.  If you look carefully at the second picture, you can see the start of trouble from the stress concentration at the back of the canopy.  My guess is that it's gotten serious.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Cuberly on July 01, 2013, 05:01:21 PM
Uhhhhhh...that looks more like stress concentration of the right index finger caused by too much photoshopping!   LL~ LL~

Nice try though.  Somehow I doubt that Paul's gonna buy it.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Mike Lauerman on July 01, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
We were hoping to see Moon shine again...
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Mark Scarborough on July 01, 2013, 07:06:50 PM
Boy I dont know,, I was in Deer Park for a Pylon race this weekend,, I heard some mysterious chuckling from across the airport, Not sure what that was all about  but it was certainly sinister,, almost like a predetor who is sneaking up on his prey,,
speaking of praying,, you all might want to start,,
Just sayin,,,
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Mike Keville on July 01, 2013, 07:27:19 PM
Can't speculate on 2nd thru 'wherever', but PW's gonna' take all the marbles this year.

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 01, 2013, 10:16:04 PM
Something like family issues keeping you from the Nats I could believe. Not having a plane that works??? Nice try bud. See you there!

Derek

Yeah I am not buying it either, BRO!  The guy that takes a 4 engine plane, a scale one at that, to the WCs would bring a kite to the nats if that's all he had available.   ;D ;D

See you in a couple of weeks.

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Larry Fernandez on July 02, 2013, 01:05:01 AM
Man I almost forgot the second most important part of coming to Muncie. The Texas Roadhouse!!!

I still partly remember the night that John Grigsby, Steve M., and I shut that place down! Flying was interesting the next day to say the least.

Derek

Ahh the old Texas Road House Café. Jeff Anderson and I dined and dashed there in 2000.

It was my night to buy and I told Jeff to sit tight while I went to the truck to get some travelers checks.
As I was walking back in, Jeff was walking out through the crowded lobby. Jeff says, "Don't sweat it I got it tonight.
We get in the truck and Jeff holds up the bill and says" Drive fast dude, I didn't pay for $hit"

One of the many, many adventures of the 2000 Nats.

Like the toilet papering of Bob Dixon's truck. Jeff locking Bob Dixon in the crapper.
The fake two for one coupons for the Pizza King. (They actually worked). Jeff telling everyone at the Nats that mustard in your motor is a premium lubricant, because he believed the marvel oil that I used was dispensed out of a plastic Frenches Mustard bottle. Jeff was boozed up for the entire week and still finished third in advanced.
I made a very official looking sign that said "Parking reserved for the Buttafucco Stunt Team". Every where we went that week, when we parked the truck, we would pull the sign out  and place it in front of the truck.
It did raise a bit of a stink, when we waited for the parking spot closest to the lobby of the Signature Hotel to open up. I ran down stairs and moved the truck to that spot and put the sign out. We watched from our window as everyone who walked into the lobby stopped in their tracks when they saw the sign and wondered how the Buttafucco Stunt Team rated a prime parking spot in front of the lobby.

We were the first to the AMA site one morning and parked in the closest spot to the entrance, I put the sign in front of the truck and headed up to the L pad.
A couple of hours later I found the sign tapped to the door of one of the port-a-potties.
I didn't think that was very funny.
 

2001 was even better

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 02, 2013, 09:02:14 AM
Ahh the old Texas Road House Café. Jeff Anderson and I dined and dashed there in 2000.

It was my night to buy and I told Jeff to sit tight while I went to the truck to get some travelers checks.
As I was walking back in, Jeff was walking out through the crowded lobby. Jeff says, "Don't sweat it I got it tonight.
We get in the truck and Jeff holds up the bill and says" Drive fast dude, I didn't pay for @#$%"

One of the many, many adventures of the 2000 Nats.

Like the toilet papering of Bob Dixons truck. Jeff locking Bob Dixon in the crapper.
The fake two for one flyers for the Pizza King. (They actually worked). Jeff telling everyone at the Nats that mustard in your motor is a premium lubricant, because he believed the marvel oil that I used was dispenced out of a plastic Frenches Mustard bottle. Jeff was boozed up for the entire week and still finished third in advanced.
I made a very official looking sign that said "Parking reserved for the Buttafucco Stunt Team". Every where we went that week, when we parked the truck, we would pull the sign out  and place it in front of the truck.
It did raise a bit of a stink, when we waited for the parking spot closest to the lobby of the Signature Hotel to open up. I ran down stairs and moved the truck to that spot and put the sign out. We watched from our window as everyone who walked into the lobby stopped in their tracks when they saw the sign and wondered how the Buttafucco Stunt Team rated a prime parking spot in front of the lobby.

We were the first to the AMA site one morning and parked in the closest spot to the entrance, I put the sign in front of the truck and headed up to the L pad.
A couple of hours later I found the sign tapped to the door of one of the port-a-potties.
I didn't think that was very funny.
 

2001 was even better

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

The good ol' days...

Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on July 02, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
With this I guess I'm good to go!
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 02, 2013, 06:59:32 PM
We were hoping to see Moon shine again...

A waning crescent,
He'll set pretty soon.
JCT will make
Your Doug a blue Moon.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 02, 2013, 07:03:15 PM
With this I guess I'm good to go!

The new plane flies well?
Well maybe it might.
The Jive Combat Team
Says go fly a kite.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 02, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
I will be flying to new heights with zig zags.

You can zig
And you can zag.
The JCT's
Got first in the bag.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 02, 2013, 07:09:15 PM
Give up two appearance points???? Sorry, I am entirely to vain about my planes.

You may be vain
'Bout your pretty plane,
But without VGs,
No trophy you'll gain.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 02, 2013, 07:15:57 PM
There are several dark horses too, if they would just show up.

Hold your dark horses.
Their era is through.
The Jive Combat Team
Will show them up too.

(A little disappointing, because I couldn't come up with a rhyme for pasture.)
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RandySmith on July 02, 2013, 07:37:04 PM
(A little disappointing, because I couldn't come up with a rhyme for pasture.)

manure ??
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: SteveMoon on July 02, 2013, 08:05:31 PM
Roadhouse baby! Yes, it was a rough day after shutting that place down
the previous night. And, Derek I don't think your Dad was too impressed.
Ahhhh, good times. Can't wait for some more.


Steve
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Cuberly on July 02, 2013, 10:46:20 PM
Hold your dark horses.
Their era is through.
The Jive Combat Team
Will show them up too.

(A little disappointing, because I couldn't come up with a rhyme for pasture.)

uhhhh...how about,

Off to the pasture
With the Jive Combat Team
Thier "Hunt" for the trophy
May be a Disaster

 LL~ LL~

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 02, 2013, 10:49:24 PM
A waning crescent,
He'll set pretty soon.
JCT will make
Your Doug a blue Moon.

Soon you will see
The Moon is new
A little less than two weeks
And the JCT will be blue
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Dan McEntee on July 03, 2013, 12:57:55 AM
Hold your dark horses.
Their era is through.
The Jive Combat Team
Will show them up too.

(A little disappointing, because I couldn't come up with a rhyme for pasture.)

   Can I take a crack at it?

     Hold your dark horses.
     Put them out to pasture.
     A win by the JCT,
     Will be pure rapture!

   Hope I spelled that correctly. Can't find my damn dictionary!
  Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee
  (JTC Wannabe)
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RC Storick on July 03, 2013, 07:20:22 AM
Try as they might
A win for JCT
has never seen flight.

If Walker shows
and if the wind blows
it could be Hunt to be the best.

Or who knows
it could be the Moon
who flies over the coo-coo's nest.

What ever the outcome
I don't care
cause me and my dad will still be there.

Best of luck to all,
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 03, 2013, 08:44:08 AM
Roadhouse baby! Yes, it was a rough day after shutting that place down
the previous night. And, Derek I don't think your Dad was too impressed.
Ahhhh, good times. Can't wait for some more.


Steve

That was also the night of one of the greatest Nats quotes ever.

After a few hours of drinking, eating, and getting to know some of the locals at the Texas Roadhouse....

(really hot) Bartender- Where are you guys from?

Derek- Right outside of Augusta, Georgia. Home of the Masters Golf tournament. (you can imagine my southern accent for yourself)

Steve and John- Dallas Texas.

Bartender- Oh really that's cool. Do you guys have Texas Roadhouses in Texas?

Steve- (without a second of hesitation) No, we have Indiana Roadhouses....

Bartender- Bewildered look followed by a burst of laughter.

Bartender- Really???

Derek, Steve, and John- rolling laughter followed by more drinks.


What a great night. I don't think she charged us for any of the drinks, just the food.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 03, 2013, 09:10:48 AM
You may be vain
'Bout your pretty plane,
But without VGs,
No trophy you'll gain.


After getting our a$$es kicked last year I thought we agreed on less poems and more practice. I see that you did not follow your own advice.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 03, 2013, 10:05:19 AM
With this I guess I'm good to go!

YES YES!!!  That's all you need.  Dont bother with the plane its too much trouble.  Just bring the kite, Bro, and you are golden!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Please just bring the kite!!  Seriously, the plane,,,,not needed this time.

When the winds blow
The kite will fly
But in the show
The scores for Riff Raff will be quite high
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 03, 2013, 10:07:56 AM
After getting our a$$es kicked last year I thought we agreed on less poems and more practice. I see that you did not follow your own advice.

Derek

"Practice?  We dont need no stinkin' practice!"

actually I need a whole sh!t ton, but that isn't happening around here....
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Shultzie on July 03, 2013, 10:36:18 AM
HEY PAUL...
THAT HOT HOT HOT WEATHER MUST BE LIKE LIVIN IN A HANDBASKET FROM HELL!
STAY HYDRATED AT THIS TIME IS JOB NUMBER UNO~ONE OHHHH! VD~ VD~ VD~ VD~ VD~ j1 j1 j1 j1
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on July 03, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
HEY PAUL...
THAT HOT HOT HOT WEATHER MUST BE LIKE LIVIN IN A HANDBASKET FROM HELL!
STAY HYDRATED AT THIS TIME IS JOB NUMBER UNO~ONE OHHHH! VD~ VD~ VD~ VD~ VD~ j1 j1 j1 j1


You can't let 105 degrees bother you. Besides, it doesn't bother the kite. Don't tell anyone, but I'm not the BOM of that kite. Found it in a kite shop in Pacific Beach Wa in May.

I would rather fly in 105 here than 90 over your way. It did get a little ugly here Monday as it was 95 and 70% humidity. The density ratio was 85% and felt just like Muncie.  Good practice for that kite. I do have problems with the wingover and overhead eights though. I'll keep working at it.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Derek Barry on July 03, 2013, 12:36:45 PM

You can't let 105 degrees bother you. Besides, it doesn't bother the kite. Don't tell anyone, but I'm not the BOM of that kite. Found it in a kite shop in Pacific Beach Wa in May.

I would rather fly in 105 here than 90 over your way. It did get a little ugly here Monday as it was 95 and 70% humidity. The density ratio was 85% and felt just like Muncie.  Good practice for that kite. I do have problems with the wingover and overhead eights though. I'll keep working at it.

You should come down to the sod farm some time in June. 100 degrees and 95% humidity. That is till the afternoon thunderstorm, then it goes up to 100% humidity.

Derek
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Eric Viglione on July 03, 2013, 12:55:21 PM
It also hits 100% at the sod farm when the sprinklers come on... or at least the dew point spikes a fair bit.
I bet that little duckling still hasn't come back after your assault Derek.  :##

EricV
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 03, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
Assaulting ducklings
Might make a good show,
At the Nats you best have
Your ducks in a row.


Edited for meter, although it still doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 03, 2013, 02:16:07 PM
combat is loud with lots of heat
while wearing a clown suit
oh what a feat
but in stunt your plane is mute
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Doug Moon on July 03, 2013, 06:11:01 PM
JCT will try for the win
only to find a small fit of rage
because in the end
Moon will be the name they engrave
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Paul Walker on July 03, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
You should come down to the sod farm some time in June. 100 degrees and 95% humidity. That is till the afternoon thunderstorm, then it goes up to 100% humidity.

Derek

The difference here is altitude. While your conditions are not friendly to you, my conditions are not friendly to the plane. Your relative density is nearly 91% where mine is about 85%.  That's a big difference!


Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: dale gleason on July 04, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
If humidity is making you slow,
and to the Nats, you fear to go,
Allay all fears such as these,
The answer is plain, desiccant VGs.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: john e. holliday on July 04, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
Hope all of you keep your day jobs. LL~ LL~
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Cuberly on July 04, 2013, 11:33:11 AM
Hope all of you keep your day jobs. LL~ LL~

Day Job...What day job?  I'm RETIRED!  Hmmmmm...maybe that's my problem!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Mike Griffin on July 04, 2013, 03:28:24 PM
Doc I dont think Robert Frost or Edgar Allen Poe are in any danger...except maybe from Howard.  He kinda favors Edgar... ~^ ~^ ~^ ~^ ~^
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Bill Little on July 04, 2013, 03:37:03 PM
Well, I have an earth shaking yet obvious prediction on who will win the Walker Trophy at the NATS: 

the competitor with the highest score during the Fly-Off...........

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RandySmith on July 04, 2013, 04:06:47 PM
Well, I have an earth shaking yet obvious prediction on who will win the Walker Trophy at the NATS: 

the competitor with the highest score during the Fly-Off...........

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM


Uhhhh !!  that would not do it.. The competitor has to have at least 2 scores that total more than the average of the other pilots scores,
So a pilot could have the highest score but still fail to win....   Bummer huh?

Randy
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Powell on July 04, 2013, 04:13:56 PM
Designed to keep one killer flight from winning. Depends on how you look at it. Is one amazing flight worth more than 2 or 3 very, very good flights? Just depends on your point of view.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on July 10, 2013, 07:14:38 AM
There are questions about P.W. going I heard that Orestes will be there, so here is my prediction. The west coast participation willapparently be light.

1) Hunt
2) Derek
3) Doug Moon
4) Orestes
5) Oliver or Wieder

If P.W is coming, put him in 4th and every one else moves down one.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on July 11, 2013, 12:24:12 PM
I guess the question at the appearence judging will be "Is Derek coming??"  LL~ LL~

Good luck to you guys...

Marcus
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Powell on July 11, 2013, 03:02:49 PM
Hey, it's a 2500 miles one way. I'm surprised any folks get there from the west coast.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Bill Little on July 11, 2013, 03:07:47 PM
Hey, it's a 2500 miles one way. I'm surprised any folks get there from the west coast.

I agree, Randy.  It is not fair for the number of great fliers on the West Coast.

Bill
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 16, 2013, 02:45:09 PM
Soon you will see
The Moon is new
A little less than two weeks
And the JCT will be blue

I meant to mention that yesterday saw a waxing Moon.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Randy Powell on July 16, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
An waxing moon. Now that's funny.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 16, 2013, 03:51:30 PM
It is not fair for the number of great fliers on the West Coast.

It's OK with me.  I kinda enjoy the trip.

Probably more West Coast stunt fliers (the great ones, anyhow) are volunteers running the contest than are contestants.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: RC Storick on July 17, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
It's OK with me.  I kinda enjoy the trip.

Probably more West Coast stunt fliers (the great ones, anyhow) are volunteers running the contest than are contestants.

That's odd I thought I saw Paul flying today. So I know there was at least 2 great west coast fliers, flying today. I also think they had rat droppings on their wings.
Title: Re: 2013 Nats trash talk, prognostication and wager thread
Post by: Howard Rush on July 17, 2013, 08:43:03 PM
Among the West Coast people helping out were Dave Fitzgerald, Ted and Shareen Fancher, Lanny Shorts, and Bruce Hunt.  I think they outnumber those of us flying. 

When he flies, Dave has more VGs now than any of the rest of us.