Author Topic: "Red Tails." (Read 4182 times)

Norm Faith Jr. · « **on:** August 03, 2011, 08:44:09 PM »

I don't know if I can wait until January.
Norm

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #1 on:** August 03, 2011, 08:48:52 PM »

DITTO!!!!!!!

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #2 on:** August 03, 2011, 09:53:12 PM »

Agreed, That is a must see. The recognition of those flyers is sooo long over due.

Noel Corney · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:09:12 AM »

Tuskage Airmen ?

John Stiles · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:57:50 AM »

Dang...that's gonna be a goodern no doubt. Too bad we don't have more movies like that! I could watch them continuously. Watched Top Gun at least 20 times!

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2011, 09:14:21 AM »

Quote from: Noel Corney on August 04, 2011, 12:09:12 AM

Tuskage Airmen ?

Tuskegee.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:29:18 AM »

Another computor generated movie. The aerial scenes don't look real. Too bad they can't use some of the actual footage. The "Tuskegee Airmen" were a great group of young men that never got enough recognition. Anyway I hope the movie is/will be worth the wait.

John Stiles · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:45:38 AM »

Won't make me much difference if it's done in dreamscape, I'm gonna watch it and enjoy it. One of my emerging favorite actors is Cuba Gooding Jr. who played in "Radio"

Douglas Ames · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:09:03 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on August 04, 2011, 10:29:18 AM

Another computor generated movie. The aerial scenes don't look real. Too bad they can't use some of the actual footage. The "Tuskegee Airmen" were a great group of young men that never got enough recognition. Anyway I hope the movie is/will be worth the wait.

Yeah, the sky's a little crowded but it was "shot" that way because of the screen effect - fitting everything into a rectangle.
I will say this, the scenes look way better than the remake "Pearl Harbor", Those flight scenes were pretty lame.
Best CGI? Band of Brothers - DC-3/ Glider Paradrop scenes!

dave siegler · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:19:12 PM »

While I didn't go, as I was too tired after teaching kids to fly control line all day, George Lucas was at Oshkosh talking about the movie.

So some of you control lines come to Oshkosh next year, so I can get some time at the show OK?

http://www.airventure.org/news/2011/110729_gathering.html

Mike Scholtes · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2011, 07:16:12 PM »

The local angle is that the Red Tailed P-51 seen in the movie was built by a S.F. Bay Area model builder who has a retirement career building models for use in films. He also built a B-17 for the film. Some are flyable, some are static only; doesn't matter once the 3-D object is digitalized. Our modeler presented the Mustang to Cuba Gooding when they were done with it.

The "flying" scenes in the film Top Gun were largely filmed on a ridge in the East Bay Hills, with model jets on sticks for the cameras. Lucasfilms is a Bay Area company and does much of the work here.

Can anyone think of a film more recent than Tora!Tora!Tora! that used REAL airplanes rather than computer generated images? That was like 40 years ago.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2011, 07:35:26 PM »

Looks great! The flying looked a little more realistic in this preview than Pearl Harbor where the planes were shooting at each other from 10 feet away...

dave siegler · « **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2011, 04:58:55 AM »

Quote from: Mike Scholtes on August 04, 2011, 07:16:12 PM

The local angle is that the Red Tailed P-51 seen in the movie was built by a S.F. Bay Area model builder who has a retirement career building models for use in films. He also built a B-17 for the film. Some are flyable, some are static only; doesn't matter once the 3-D object is digitalized. Our modeler presented the Mustang to Cuba Gooding when they were done with it.

The "flying" scenes in the film Top Gun were largely filmed on a ridge in the East Bay Hills, with model jets on sticks for the cameras. Lucasfilms is a Bay Area company and does much of the work here.

Can anyone think of a film more recent than Tora!Tora!Tora! that used REAL airplanes rather than computer generated images? That was like 40 years ago.

The great Waldo Pepper.

Will Hinton · « **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2011, 07:38:09 AM »

"The great Waldo Pepper."

One of the greatest and most enjoyable movies ever, with or without planes!

Randy Cuberly · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2011, 10:30:31 AM »

My personal favorite is "Flyboys".
Great airial scenes and beautiful aircraft.

Randy Cuberly

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #15 on:** August 06, 2011, 08:56:49 PM »

"Magnificient Men in their Flying Machines"...now there's a classic, funny too.

bob werle · « **Reply #16 on:** August 06, 2011, 09:22:50 PM »

There was an HBO movie years bACK " tHE tUSKEGEE AIRMEN " that was well done.
Bob

Clint Ormosen · « **Reply #17 on:** August 06, 2011, 09:52:41 PM »

Quote from: bob werle on August 06, 2011, 09:22:50 PM

There was an HBO movie years bACK " tHE tUSKEGEE AIRMEN " that was well done.
Bob

That was done in 1995. Cuba Gooding Jr. was in that one too.

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2011, 06:48:34 AM »

I agree with the Great Waldo Pepper. That was such a great movie, and lots of old planes and cars along with a good story. Another good one was the Battle of Britain. It had some great photography. Oh! One more, The Blue Max.

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2011, 06:59:45 AM »

I saw a little bit of an animated thing about the red tails on TV. I thought it was really bad and about as racist as one could get. Did not spend much time with it.

Sam Feinstein · « **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2011, 12:16:31 PM »

This movie looks promising. I also heard there is going to be a remake of the Dam Busters.

Andrew Borgogna · « **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2011, 01:12:48 PM »

At the last Fullerton Airport open house I had the good fortune of meeting and talking with one of the remaining Tuskegee airman. When I served in the Air Force in Thailand 67-68 we were in 13th Airforce serving under the command Lt. General Benjamin O. Davis the leader of the Tuskegee Airmen. I mentioned that to the gentleman, and he said "Oh Benny Davis I knew him OK." It still send chills up my spine, I ended our meeting with a proper military salute it was an honor.
Andy Borgogna

Mike Scholtes · « **Reply #22 on:** August 07, 2011, 04:15:56 PM »

The other local angle is that we have a permanent exhibit dedicated to the Tuskegee Airmen and the Red Tail Squadron at North Field, Oakland CA, the same airport and art deco terminal used by Amelia Earhart on her flights. I too had the honor of meeting several of the Red Tail pilots about ten years ago at a ceremony there.

How could I have overlooked Waldo Pepper? I am willing to forgive Ernst for flying a Bucker Jungmeister in his airshow routine, a plane from the late 1930s, since the flying was so good and the replica WWI aircraft so authentic. Fokker DRIII and maybe a Nieuport or Scout? One of my favorites too.

Bill Barber · « **Reply #23 on:** August 07, 2011, 05:23:52 PM »

   I actually worked on a portion of the aerial photography for The Great Waldo Pepper . In 1974 Universal came to Sebring Fl. to use the small airport there . They wanted white puffy clouds as back grounds and Florida has plenty of those . I was one of four assistant cameramen and our job was to load & service the Arri cameras after each flight . We would put women's shower caps over the lenses to keep the engine oil off . The stunt pilots were supposed to pull the wires attached to the caps before filming , but sometimes they would forget . So at dailies we would see several minutes of the inside of a shower cap , not a good thing !
   Bob Surtees was the Director of Photography and his credits include " Ben Hur " ," King Solomon Mines " , "Summer of 42 " , " The Sting " and " The Last Picture Show ". Since this was only the second or third movie I had worked on at that time , I was very thrilled to be there !
   Bill Barber

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #24 on:** August 08, 2011, 12:33:23 AM »

It was a pretty strange movie (unless you read the book) but "Catch 22" had some great B-25 shots. Was "633 Squadron" mentioned? That was 1964 so almost qualifies.