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Title: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: DanielGelinas on March 18, 2011, 11:19:54 AM
Hello,

Wondering if the classic engine for the super clown (at the time it was designed) is a fox .35? If not, what was it?
And when did the super clown appear on the market?

 ???

Thanks,

-Danny
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on March 18, 2011, 11:31:47 AM
Fox.35 or McCoy.35....do they make other engines? %^@ H^^
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Dave Adamisin on March 18, 2011, 01:20:49 PM
Any 29 - 35 of the era is fine. I have one (movable flaps) with an Enya 30 that hauls butt. It likes to fly a little faster.
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Joe Just on March 18, 2011, 01:52:45 PM
Flew one of mine with a McCoy .19 LB.  Worked very well.
Joe
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: john e. holliday on March 18, 2011, 01:58:40 PM
Don't for get the Johnson and K&B engines.  There were also the Forsters and O&R's. H^^
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Dave Adamisin on March 18, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
Don't for get the Johnson and K&B engines.  There were also the Forsters and O&R's. H^^
I thought of the Forster 29 too. Great engine. I had a Trixter with one. My "much older brother Arch" had a Trixter with a Fox 29. We flew "combat" with them pulling old Plymouth Internats streamers. I also like the idea of a K&B 19, 23, 29, or 32. An old Glow Torp would also rock............ OOO OOO how about an old twin stack OS 29?
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Bruce Brady on March 18, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
The Super Clown was designed by Mat Kania of Ringmaster (and others) fame. It was designed in 1948 making it one of the older OTC kits.
I bought one in the mid 50's because it cost 50 cents less that the Ringmaster !!  Early Fox --1949 was first .35 --or McCoy .29 would be vintage
compatible also.
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: jim ivey on March 18, 2011, 05:09:17 PM
the first one I ever saw had an O&R 29 on it.  I dont believe the mac  35 existed then but the 29 did, fox 35 did also that was in 1951 I think.    jim
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: jim ivey on March 18, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Sorry doc no johnsons that early, 1955 the fist green cases, member I was there y1  they were orwicks before that but the orwicks existed then good luck finding one of those that run. ::)  jim
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Richard Fleming on March 18, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
On the original kit, it states for: .23 to .49 cu in disp. engines. But it also stated the plane was 20 oz. If you build light, you can use a wide range of engines. I have used Fox .35s on mine and is plenty of power. Fixed flaps flies just a good as one with flaps too. Have fun! #^
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: DanielGelinas on March 18, 2011, 06:41:17 PM
Thanks for all the replys! I'll probably use the fox 35...if I manage to get through the break-in. n~ n~ HB~>

-Danny
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on March 19, 2011, 09:52:26 AM
One of the guys in the GSCB flew his with a Drone Diesel. (.29?) His had an apparatus that he could fly it with, or without movable flaps. That way he could fly in OTS Phase I, AND OTS Phase II! When that thing started, everybody watched! It was a real trip!

Ward
Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: Terrence Durrill on March 19, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
Back in 1955, a flying buddy of mine built a PDQ SUPER CLOWN and flew it with a Forster .29 front rotary valve engine.  It had movable flaps, was very light and flew quite well.  My own PDQ SUPER CLOWN was purchased at the Norfolk, VA Naval Station hobby shop in 1965.  It was built with movable flaps and is still flying today with a K&B .29 greenhead.  It has also been flown over the years (46 years, as a matter of fact), with a Johnson .32 Sports Special, an early Super Tigre Combat engine, a Fox .35 stunt and a K&B .35 greenhead.  During its life, it has been totaled twice and rebuilt both times.  It is a little heavier today than it was in 1966 when it was first built, but it is in better condition today than it has ever been.......a tough little airplane. And oh, I favor the K&B Torpedo greenheads for this plane.....especially the .29, as it seems to have just the right power for the SUPER CLOWN if you are primarily a sport/fun flier like myself.  I find that flying this particular combination a very relaxing and fun experience...... TDurrill   H^^

Title: Re: "CLASSIC" engine for the super clown
Post by: RandySmith on March 19, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
Enya 25 29 or 30 35
Fox 29


Randy