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Title: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Bootlegger on July 27, 2011, 06:33:18 AM: Guy's I need a set of '57 Nobler wing plans, not the ARF, but the kit plans.
Who can help?
Thanks a lot, Gil
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Robert Zambelli on July 27, 2011, 07:12:30 AM: Gil - I think I have a set of plans. If so, you can have them. I'm in CA now but I'll be home tomorrow. Send me a reminder e-mail.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: John Stiles on July 27, 2011, 10:40:45 AM: If I do, they'll be older plans....how can I tell exactly which set? The one I have is a Blueprint I believe, its in a stack of old plans....I'll look. [wingspan?] H^^
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on July 27, 2011, 11:31:56 AM: I may have that in PDF format but am unsure what sets the 57 apart. I have 3 or 4 Noblers that all look the same to this untrained eye! LOL H^^
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Garf on July 27, 2011, 12:15:53 PM: I have several prints. Not sure which versions.
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Juan Carlos Pesce on July 27, 2011, 01:24:43 PM: See:

http://www.u-control.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/la-manija-oct-feb-2011.pdf

Best regards

JCP
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: John Stiles on July 27, 2011, 04:40:35 PM: Quote from: Juan Carlos Pesce on July 27, 2011, 01:24:43 PM
See:

http://www.u-control.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/la-manija-oct-feb-2011.pdf

Best regards

JCP
Excellent download Juan, in fact, I believe I have a set of phenolic templates for that wing[I could part with]. H^^
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Bill Little on July 27, 2011, 08:37:56 PM: Quote from: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on July 27, 2011, 11:31:56 AM
I may have that in PDF format but am unsure what sets the 57 apart. I have 3 or 4 Noblers that all look the same to this untrained eye! LOL H^^

HI Glenn,

Other than a general overall look, the '52 Nobler (sometimes called "original") is different in almost everything. WS, root rib, airfoil, wing area, wing asymmetry, moments, flap sizes, etc., are different from the " '57 " Nobler which simply refers to the year Top Flite introduced the kit which came in a box with a "Green" label.... hence the term '57 Green Box Nobler.

The first published Nobler also differed from George's actual planes since he was several hundred miles away from the planes when he did the article and drew the plans from memory.

Generally the '57 Nobler seems to be easier to trim than the earlier versions.

Big Bear

P.S. Gil, Pat Johnston did a beautiful set of plans for the '57 Nobler in CAD including all parts.
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Wynn Robins on July 27, 2011, 09:12:00 PM: I have the plans on file - can send if needed
Title: Re: ..'57 Nobler plans
Post by: Bootlegger on July 28, 2011, 05:53:42 AM: y1 Fellow's thanks for all the help, Bill Little I sent ya' a PM with the info that you asked for, and want to say thank you for your help also... #^