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Nostalgia 30 => Nostalgia 30 => Topic started by: Ty Marcucci on April 27, 2013, 01:03:01 PM
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I finally got off my duff and ordered a lost foam wing set from Bob Hunt some time back. I now have the "kit" of my Genesis MK III cut out and will start construction in May. Life had interrfered again. LL~
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Hi Ty,
A "kit" is a great idea! I have the "normal" foam wings for mine.
It IS Nos. 30 legal as well as legal for the "Super '70s" class. Bob won the World Champs in 1978 with it............ ???
Bill
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Great, I just never found any article on it, with plans, so I could add it to my list of N 30 legal models. Now I will. H^^
Hi Ty,
It was published in FM but I cannot remember the date. Regular building article with one page a reduced plan.
Bill
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A little reminder...
Marcus
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Thanks Marcus, I have that issue, and the plans but it is not called the Mark III. I'm in Colorado at present and if memory serves, it is called the Genesis 46. Is that correct?
That is a good question..
Maybe Bob might join in and help us know which is which...
Marcus
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You're right Ty...
What I meant is that Bob might help remember the FM issue in which the MKIII was featured... ;D
If you ever run a second "batch" of kits, let me know... I'll make you na offer you couldn"t say no!!! Love that ship!!!
Marcus
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The Genesis Mk III - which won the 1976 Nats - is what's pictured in the FM issue above.
Pretty sure "Genesis Mk III" and "Genesis 46" are the exact same thing, at least for purposes of this thread. :) (I know the "Genesis Mk IV" was the W/C winner ...)
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The Genesis Mk III - which won the 1976 Nats - is what's pictured in the FM issue above.
Pretty sure "Genesis Mk III" and "Genesis 46" are the exact same thing, at least for purposes of this thread. :) (I know the "Genesis Mk IV" was the W/C winner ...)
Hi Mike,
According to Bob, the plane in the magazine is the one he used to win the '78 World Champs. His 1980 Genesis was very much different using a wing that is basically the same he is using in his Crossfire now. The Fuselage was longer than the .46/Mk III but the wing is smaller. Bob used the OS Max.40H in it. Bob explained that in calm air the '80 was maybe the best stunt model he ever had, but in wind the rear of the fuselage was weak and would do funny things, twisting, etc..
Aaron has a set of cores from Bob for the '80 Genesis, which has never been published.
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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What a wonderful summary everyone. I'm enjoying reading and learning. :) However, here's my quandry, one says it's legal and another says the wing core is patterned from an 80's varient, correct? ??? If this is so, even if the fuse plan is legal wouldn't the wing be illegal thus the whole plane be ineligible? ???
In other words if I take a $5 bill and mark a "0" after the 5 will get $45 in change?? ;) (Just askin' cauz I sho' ain't that good enough to compete!!) S?P
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What a wonderful summary everyone. I'm enjoying reading and learning. :) However, here's my quandry, one says it's legal and another says the wing core is patterned from an 80's varient, correct? ??? If this is so, even if the fuse plan is legal wouldn't the wing be illegal thus the whole plane be ineligible? ???
In other words if I take a $5 bill and mark a "0" after the 5 will get $45 in change?? ;) (Just askin' cauz I sho' ain't that good enough to compete!!) S?P
Hi Jim,
I think you must have gotten confused reading my last post. ??
Ty's ".46/Mk III" is definitely Nos. 30 eligible, no question. It won the Walker Trophy at the '76 NATS and the World Championship in 1978. It was published as a construction article with available plans in 1976. We can put that one to bed.
The "Genesis" that Bob flew at the 1980 World Championships was a different model altogether. But it is also Nos. 30 eligible since it was flown in 1980. We can put that one to bed.
Bob's Crossfire uses, basically, the wing that he used in the 1980 model. The Crossfire is a current model, NOT Nos. 30 eligible. Just an example of his designs.
OK?
Bill
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Hi Jim,
I think you must have gotten confused reading my last post. ??
Ty's ".46/Mk III" is definitely Nos. 30 eligible, no question. It won the Walker Trophy at the '76 NATS and the World Championship in 1978. It was published as a construction article with available plans in 1976. We can put that one to bed.
The "Genesis" that Bob flew at the 1980 World Championships was a different model altogether. But it is also Nos. 30 eligible since it was flown in 1980. We can put that one to bed.
Bob's Crossfire uses, basically, the wing that he used in the 1980 model. The Crossfire is a current model, NOT Nos. 30 eligible. Just an example of his designs.
OK?
Bill
Okee dokee! Got it! So in theory, a fellow could build a May 70; Novi IV; C. David Gierke fuselage and mount a Feb 74; Genesis MK III; Bob Hunt; foam wing and it would be acceptable for an N30 event!! I may not be able to fly it worth a darn, but it's shur' gonna' be purty!! ;)
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Okee dokee! Got it! So in theory, a fellow could build a May 70; Novi IV; C. David Gierke fuselage and mount a Feb 74; Genesis MK III; Bob Hunt; foam wing and it would be acceptable for an N30 event!! I may not be able to fly it worth a darn, but it's shur' gonna' be purty!! ;)
Hi Jim,
In one word, NO. If you can prove that a Novi IV was designed, built or flown before Jan 1, 1984 with a Genesis wing then it would be ok.
None of the models I have described, which ARE Nos. 30 eligible, bear any resemblance to the situation you are describing.
Over the years I have spent a lot of time talking with Bob Hunt, and I consider him to not only be a friend, but a "brother", and have asked about specific models on many occasions. I sincerely thank Bob, once again, for being so open with his knowledge.
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM