I finally finished my Primary Force kit I got from Mike about a year ago. My friend Troy Martin did covering in transparent blue Monokote with white trim. Arrowind 2809/15 motor turning a cut down APC 11x5.5 EP Pusher Prop. Castle Talon 35 ESC, Hubin FM-9 timer, ThunderPower 4S 2200 mah lipo battery. ready to fly weight came out 37 oz. after trimming the plane. 58 ft. .012 lines. she flys a 5.2 second lap. the plane flys great. very stable to level flight coming out of the verticals. she turns very good and very smooth. I could not be happier. best flying plane of this size I have ever had. Thanks Mike for a very nice kit and a great flying plane...Dale Jones

Thanks, yes that is the box from the Ringmaster Electric conversion kit. I extended the box a 1/4” to give the battery a little more room for easy access.....Dale

Thanks for the reply, I think I will stick to the slightly cut down APC 11x5.5 pusher. I am getting 5.2 laps on 58 ft.
.015 lines with good line tension in the overhead maneuvers. I am using a 4S 2200 lipo which I have 25 percent battery capacity left after a 5 min. 20 second run. The plane is flying so nice, I do not want to touch it.

Hi Dale,
After reading your post again I noticed your using .018 braided lines, they are pretty heavy for a 37 ounce model.  You could be using at least .015 braided lines with a look at .012 would be should work even better.  I’m not sure what you have for tip weight in the model now but my thinking it could go down to make up for the larger size of lines.  My thinking is you could go down to 1/4 to 1/2 in total tip weight with excellent line tension all around.

Another thing is to consider a normal rotation prop, I think that the pusher prop is masking some of the flight performance gains and holding you both back.  Most of the pusher props I’ve tried they seem to push the nose of the model to the outside of the circle requiring the lead-out position to be moved forward to compensate for the  crabbing effect on the model.  With the proper set these pusher props are a good thing but getting the proper set up is tricky.  It takes a bunch of flights to find that out and trying different settings, i.e. lead-out position, tip weight, line length, and C.G. To make sure it all works together.

The P-Force XL is even better at 54 ounces with 4 cell 2700 pack and and the 6 cell 2200 pack all up weight of 56.5 ounces with active timer. 

Later,
Mikey

Dale,
I’ll put you on the list, there is about 20 now on the list, I’ll let you know when I send them out, hopefully at the of April, the plans are pretty much done along with the laser cut files, just need to finish the one I’m building and fly it.

Later,
Mikey

PS. If you can read a CAD file I can send you copy of the fuse mods for the PF-2.0.

Fellows the old DOC here.  I tried the .012 cable lines on my IC powered PF after using .018 on first flights and then going to .015 from then on.  To me here in the winds we some times get the .012 left a lot to be desired.  In fact I was flying in Wichita one year using .018 and wondering how they stayed together    If I would have had the attitude I do now the plane would have stayed in the car.  Now if I fly in a contest it is just for fun and to support the hosting club.

By the way your plane looks great.