Author Topic: Will the Eflite 32 be enough for a ARF Legacy?? (Read 3083 times)

MarcusCordeiro · « **on:** December 10, 2013, 06:30:43 AM »

Ok. I've decided to take the plunge... right now.
I have a Eflite 32 here, and Bob Hunt's front motor mount.
I'll replace the tiger 60 in my Legacy and convert it to eletric.
Wanted to go with this motor, 'cause i've got it already.
Know exactly squat about eletrics...
I'm going to bother you guys here a lot.
So, anyone willing to help a fella get eletric?

Marcus

Rodrigo, this is our little secret....LOL

Bob Hunt · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2013, 06:38:53 AM »

Hi Marcus:

What is the projected weight with the battery on board? I'm very sure that not only will the Power 32 be plenty, but also that a Power 25 with a 4S system would be plenty as well, providing the weight is kept to around 60-63 ounces all up.

Later - Bob

Avaiojet · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2013, 07:20:23 AM »

Quote from: MarcusCordeiro on December 10, 2013, 06:30:43 AM

Ok. I've decided to take the plunge... right now.I have a Eflite 32 here, and Bob Hunt's front motor mount.
I'll replace the tiger 60 in my Legacy and convert it to eletric.Wanted to go with this motor, 'cause i've got it already.
Know exactly squat about eletrics...
I'm going to bother you guys here a lot.So, anyone willing to help a fella get eletric?
MarcusRodrigo, this is our little secret....LOL

Well Marcus,

You have more electric stuff than I do. A good beginning. Kudos.

Looks like we're both in the same boat. Do you know how to row? Can you pail water?

I'll keep an eye on your progress and I'll be Posting, begging actually, for information. See what I can come up with?

Lots of choices with electric and much more confusing than gas. Didn't take long to find that out.

Charles

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2013, 07:35:05 AM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on December 10, 2013, 06:38:53 AM

Hi Marcus:

What is the projected weight with the battery on board? I'm very sure that not only will the Power 32 be plenty, but also that a Power 25 with a 4S system would be plenty as well, providing the weight is kept to around 60-63 ounces all up.

Later - Bob

Bob

I've emailed you...

Marcus

Joe Yau · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2013, 09:35:43 AM »

Quote from: MarcusCordeiro on December 10, 2013, 06:30:43 AM

Ok. I've decided to take the plunge... right now.
I have a Eflite 32 here, and Bob Hunt's front motor mount.
I'll replace the tiger 60 in my Legacy and convert it to eletric.
Wanted to go with this motor, 'cause i've got it already.
Know exactly squat about eletrics...
I'm going to bother you guys here a lot.
So, anyone willing to help a fella get eletric?

Marcus

Rodrigo, this is our little secret....LOL

I'm also building one as well.. Sure would like to see how you'll be doing the motor mount.

My set up:
E-flite 32 / ICE75-lite / FM-9 / 5S 2700 25C / CA 3-blade 11x5.5 tractor or APC 13x4.5 EP

Howard Rush · « **Reply #5 on:** December 10, 2013, 10:10:32 AM »

My setup's the same as Joe's. It pulls a 1930-gram Impact well.

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2013, 10:57:56 AM »

Thanks guys.
I'll have to read a little. There's the article by Mike Palko at PAMPA site, which is excellent.
I have to do my homework now, don't I?
That is the setup I have, suggested by Bob for the Thundergazer
The Legacy, with the tiger 60 is 60oz.
Now, how much all the hardware weight?
Has anybody weighted the hardware?
That is the first thing I have to know so I can determine the ship weight.
I have just the motor. The other stuff ain't got here yet...
But I think that's the setup.

Marcus

Frank Imbriaco · « **Reply #7 on:** December 10, 2013, 01:32:30 PM »

Have a Powerflight 32 in my SV-11. Pulls it around like a ragdoll. Hope you've got strong shoulders. You're gonna need 'em... especially in the wind.
Mine uses a 5S setup.
Frank

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #8 on:** December 10, 2013, 03:10:59 PM »

Just got a phone call from a friend who's building a Legacy ARF and will convert to eletric...
We'll develop the ships together.
Now, a few more questions
Which is the current production ESC to replace the out of production ICE lite?
The prop is the APC 13X4.5... There seems to be two models, which one?
What prop adapter should I get? Does the one that comes with the motor work?
Guys, help please!!!

Marcus

Mike Scholtes · « **Reply #9 on:** December 10, 2013, 05:38:08 PM »

To give you some additional reassurance that this is going to work great, I have been flying a Legacy ARF on electric power for two years with excellent results. First motor choice was AXi 2826 on a 4S 3200 mah battery, then switched to OS 3825-750 and a 5s 3000 mah battery. Phoenix 45 ESC (no longer available). Settled on APC "old style" 12-6 prop. Flying weight is 62 oz. I extensively modified and strengthened the nose area and lower fuselage sides. The OS motor won't work with Bob Hunt's motor mount as the OS is rear-mount-only (as far as I can tell; has a cooling fan on front like Pletty motors). BUT since you already have the power 32, go for it! Another local flyer here has a Hunt Crossfire with Power 25. He switched to the 32 but went back to using the 25. He also is using the carbon 3-blades from the fellows in Canada. Any way you slice it, this is one great flying model on electric power.

Gus Urtubey · « **Reply #10 on:** December 10, 2013, 08:11:09 PM »

I just got my Legacy ARF.These are the weights.

Fuselage. 314 grs. 11.076 oz
Rudder. 13 grs. 0.458 oz
Stab. 102 grs. 3.597 oz
R/ wing. 201 grs. 7.090 oz
L/ wing. 248 grs. 8.747 oz
Hardware. 176 grs. 6.208 oz

I am installing a Platt 20-16. Shulze ESC, Doherty processor and TP battery 2700 5S
With these weights, it will be 60 oz ready to fly.
In order to get a CG I had to shorter the nose 1 1/2 inch.

Martin Quartim · « **Reply #11 on:** December 11, 2013, 07:36:32 PM »

Marcus,

We will go together on this one.

I will use a different Timer and ESC, but I guess all the rest will be the same. Prop, Batteries, Charger, Spinner, what else do we need?

Legacy ARF got it
Eflite Power 32 got it
Timer KR from Keith got it
Props: I will start with the APC 13x4.5 F2B seems it is lighter and more efficient. What you think? Let me know when you ready and i can get these for us.

We will need to get the items below and not sure what, where and how much:

Battery $?: Seems we can start with two or three 2700 5S 25C . Which Brand and Model ?
Spinner $? Do wee need special spinner for cooling ?
Prop Adaptors $?
Charger $? Would like something that can charge 2 or more batteries at the same time.
Power Supply $? Modify a PC Power Supply I guess.
Field Battery Check $?
Connectors $?
Shrink Tubes $?
Velcro to hold batteries $?

What else we need ? lots of MONEY

Martin

Mike Scholtes · « **Reply #12 on:** December 11, 2013, 10:01:46 PM »

I am not sure if the Power 32 770 KV motor is exactly the same as the OS 3825 750 KV in my Legacy, but I am using about 1800-1900 mAh on a 5 min 45 sec flight on 3000 5S 25C batteries. Thus it appears 2650 5S batteries would be more than adequate.

TruTurn makes some beautiful alloy spinners in LH and RH cuts, with cooling slots. However I am using a much cheaper Great Planes spinner (plastic cone with alum backplate) without any cooling problems. If you can afford it, TruTurn is now making "pusher" spinners for the 3-blade carbon pusher props. I have seen them in person and they are really nice.

Here in Northern California the prop most used is the APC "thin pusher electric" 12-6 EP, developed with a lot of input from the stunt community and especially Dennis A.

All this stuff must be incredibly expensive in Brazil when shipping and import taxes are taken into account, so you guys are really devoted to the hobby to spend that kind of cash. A $5.00 APC prop in California is probably three times that in Brazil.

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #13 on:** December 12, 2013, 08:08:50 AM »

Mike

I would like to explain that...
We pay 60% taxes on the product+SHIPPING... on stuff over U$50.00
So, something like a kit that is U$100.00 +50 shipping will be taxed in 60% over that value. That means more U$90.00, that has to paid cash when you get the product at the postoffice.
That's why we ask vendors to mark the item with a lower price.
Yes, we have to work very hard to keep our hobby/sport.

Now, which of the current ESCs by Castle Creations will replace the no longer available ICE lite 75?

Marcus

Joe Yau · « **Reply #14 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:29:30 AM »

Quote from: MarcusCordeiro on December 12, 2013, 08:08:50 AM

Now, which of the current ESCs by Castle Creations will replace the no longer available ICE lite 75?

Marcus

I believe the Edge lite 75 is the replacement for the ICE lite series with some added features for helis.
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/phoenix-edge-lite.html

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #15 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:36:54 AM »

Thanks Joe.
Martin, order??

Marcus

Mike Scholtes · « **Reply #16 on:** December 15, 2013, 09:23:45 PM »

Hello Brazilian Guys:

I'm sure there are plenty of USA modelers on this forum who would be happy to help you out with saving some money, if it can be arranged and is legal (not a customs violation). If items are sent to you from a private party in the US, rather than from a business, does it make any difference? Do you know if you would still have to pay that 60% tax?

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2013, 06:48:52 AM »

Hi Mike

I thank you so much for your interest in helping.
We do get lots of help from all vendors we buy from.
And I would like to thank them all.

Marcus

Guilherme Souza · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2014, 04:36:55 PM »

Marcus

If you need some help , please call me

I was flying with a eletric plane , a heavy plane

We can convert our models together

Guil (Mamão)

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2014, 03:09:25 AM »

Hey Guil

Where the heck have you been??
ESC is about to arrive...

Marcus

Rodrigo Mansano · « **Reply #20 on:** January 08, 2014, 08:17:21 AM »

Hi Marcus, Martin, Gui, and great US friends!

Marcus did a mistake about our importing taxes (he forgot 1 more tax....)

We have 60% federal importing tax that goes over the stuff price +shipping.... and then they are applying 18% tax that goes to the state....

Sooo I really don´t know why we still use to fly model airplanes.... we live in a crazy country...

If you need some help, I´m here!

Rodrigo Mansano
Brazil

Chris Cox · « **Reply #21 on:** January 08, 2014, 06:25:50 PM »

Hey Guil

Did the motor and props show up yet?

Chris

Guilherme Souza · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2014, 04:28:47 PM »

Quote from: Chris_Cox on January 08, 2014, 06:25:50 PM

Hey Guil

Did the motor and props show up yet?

Chris

Hi Chris

The motor and propellers arrived

I think that my Legacy will be converted soon , The plane is light and I need just 4:30 in flite time .
My 4S batterys will be enough

Thank you

Guil (Mamão)