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Offline Tim Wescott

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Which Badass Motor?
« on: December 31, 2021, 08:56:29 PM »
Brodak Legacy.
690 square inches.
If I'm incredibly lucky, 64 ounces.  Probably more like 72.

I'm looking at either a Badass 2826, or one of the Badass 35mm motors, probably a 3520.

The 2826 -- once I got enough air flowing through it -- works well in an Atlantis (Impact pre-clone) of similar size and 64 ounces.

The 3520 would require some surgery to get it to fit -- I'd pretty much have to whack the nose off of the plane and go with a bigger spinner.  I'm reluctant to go to such lengths.

Who's got experience with the Badass motors out there?  What do y'all think?
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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2021, 11:01:00 PM »
Hi Tim,
Iím using the 2826 690kv 67oz  2800 6S.  Works well.

Tim

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2021, 11:31:47 PM »
Brodak Legacy.
690 square inches.
If I'm incredibly lucky, 64 ounces.  Probably more like 72.

I'm looking at either a Badass 2826, or one of the Badass 35mm motors, probably a 3520.

The 2826 -- once I got enough air flowing through it -- works well in an Atlantis (Impact pre-clone) of similar size and 64 ounces.

The 3520 would require some surgery to get it to fit -- I'd pretty much have to whack the nose off of the plane and go with a bigger spinner.  I'm reluctant to go to such lengths.

Who's got experience with the Badass motors out there?  What do y'all think?
Three of us here use the 3515-710.  Shorter than the 20 with more than enough "umph"

Ken
« Last Edit: January 01, 2022, 11:08:01 PM by Ken Culbertson »
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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2022, 07:48:56 AM »
Three of us here use the 3815-710.  Shorter than the 20 with more than enough "umph"

Ken

What Ken says. That's what I run. It works great. If you front mounted and used one of Bob Hunt's mounts or just make one similar you would be able to switch between all those motors and more if you wanted to experiment. But my bet is you end up with the 3515-710 in the end.
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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2022, 12:06:54 PM »
Hi Tim,
Iíve run then both BA & Cobra 2826 and they are great, they like the 5 cell batteries and perform very well with lots of power and reserve left in the battery.  Iíve also have the BA 3515 installed in a new model but havenít flown it much yet (snow is too deep yet lol). 

However biased on others I think it will be a good choice as well, however, it is larger electric motor, so far it works great on either 5 or 6 cell packs.  I understand you are limited on space in your model without a total rebuilding the front end.  I would be install the BA 2826 and go flying and have fun.  You might want to consider building a new model for the 3515-710 motor.

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2022, 02:56:41 PM »
I would be install the BA 2826 and go flying and have fun.  You might want to consider building a new model for the 3515-710 motor.

That's my plan.

I fly in the Pacific Northwest, where if you fly Expert you're surrounded by molded-fuselage semi-scale warbirds that all have lots of room for a large-diameter motor.  If I can't use those guys as an example I'm not doing it right.
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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2022, 03:29:15 PM »
That's my plan.

I fly in the Pacific Northwest, where if you fly Expert you're surrounded by molded-fuselage semi-scale warbirds that all have lots of room for a large-diameter motor.  If I can't use those guys as an example I'm not doing it right.
You just described Dallas in the Gieseke/Rabe era.  Now it is back to normal and it is you guys have to contend with several US and world champions along with the entire F2B team at your local contests!  I AM NOT jealous!

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2022, 03:34:03 PM »
You just described Dallas in the Gieseke/Rabe era.  Now it is back to normal and it is you guys have to contend with several US and world champions along with the entire F2B team at your local contests!  I AM NOT jealous!

Ken

You could always come to the Northwest Regionals; bulk out our contest a bit.

Assuming that we don't have to take yet another rain check for fire or plague or whatever is next.
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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2022, 11:43:47 PM »
That's my plan.

I fly in the Pacific Northwest, where if you fly Expert you're surrounded by molded-fuselage semi-scale warbirds that all have lots of room for a large-diameter motor.  If I can't use those guys as an example I'm not doing it right.

Tim,
All & All a great bunch of guys to fly with, Iíve got to get up there again and fly with all of ya.

Mikey

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2022, 12:10:52 AM »
You could always come to the Northwest Regionals; bulk out our contest a bit.
That would be fun,  but they guys I have the privilege to fly with here are still the best!

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2022, 11:56:49 PM »
My flying partner Rick Sawicki flies his with an axi 2826/12 and has for many years on 4S. It flies the plane competatively and with authority. I use the same power system in an SV-11 with the same results.
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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2022, 05:59:23 AM »
With much prodding from my East Coast friends (Will DeMauro, Joe Daly, and Jose Modesto...) I switched from a 2826-10 motor to the BA 3515-710 motor and a TP 5S 2,800 mAh battery and never even thought of going back to the smaller diameter motors. Do yourself a big favor and go with the 3515-710 KV BadAss.

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2022, 08:05:33 AM »
With much prodding from my East Coast friends (Will DeMauro, Joe Daly, and Jose Modesto...) I switched from a 2826-10 motor to the BA 3515-710 motor and a TP 5S 2,800 mAh battery and never even thought of going back to the smaller diameter motors. Do yourself a big favor and go with the 3515-710 KV BadAss.

Bob Hunt
Chris Rigotti and Mike Scott convinced me to make the same switch.  Better everything and having over 30% headroom even on a calm day - priceless.

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2022, 08:46:49 AM »
I run an Eflite 15 with a 4s 2800mah, if I were to go bigger what do you recommend.

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Re: Which Badass Motor?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2022, 09:15:15 AM »
Well, the difference between BadAss and the others is the curved magnets bringing greater efficiency. ex. BA3515 with a few grams less approximate power than COBRA 3520.

I don't know if there is another engine with these magnets.

I have used the BadAss 3515/710 for over 600 flights with intact bearings.

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