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Author Topic: composite fuse witn Dennis Adamisin's through fire wall motor mount  (Read 551 times)

Offline jose modesto

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First Thanks Dennis for the through firewall engine mount system.
After seeing Dennis new motor mounting system i decided to incorporate this system for my 2012 Nat's model.
The advantages to the through firewall mount for me was the elimination of the front cowl.
See photos attached.
The fuse sides are 1/32" molded balsa with .5 glass cloth interior and exterior.
Rear formers are 1/8"balsa. Motor mount is 1/8"ply wood, battery mount 1/8" lite ply, Nose ring is 3ply laser cut by the Moon brothers.
The weight savings at this stage is 2oz.from last years model.
Currently fuse is under 5oz should finish at 5.3oz with tail wheel mount.
Jose Modesto
Photos 1-2and 5 2011 nats model
photos 3 and 4 new fuse for 2012 model.

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Re: composite fuse witn Dennis Adamisin's through fire wall motor mount
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 09:27:50 PM »
Your phenomenal work on your molded shells leaves me in awe.  Just gorgeous.  The through the firewall should let you seal up the motor compartment too.  AMAZING!!!!
Denny Adamisin
Fort Wayne, IN

As I've grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake!

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Re: composite fuse witn Dennis Adamisin's through fire wall motor mount
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, 10:25:26 PM »
Dennis.Thanks for the complement on composit molding. Dennis that is the intent. I want to separate the motor hot exhaust with the cooling air for the ESC and Battery.
Current model exhaust motor hot air through 3 round ducts top and side of fuse with louvers diverting cool air to motor (see photo) NOTE: motor compartment on 2011 Nat's model is not sealed.
Prior to adding the louvers the put back Mah on a 4000 bat was 3000 after louvers it dropped to 2600 mAh. learned a lesson on proper motor cooling.
Photo #1 front end with louvers
photo #2 front end as flown at Nat's
Jose Modesto

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Re: composite fuse witn Dennis Adamisin's through fire wall motor mount
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 11:25:11 AM »
Jose,First let me say that your work is simply BEAUTIFUL!!!!Composite IS the way to go in the future so thanx for shareing so others can learn from you.Are your components vaccum bagged in the molds while they are curing?Got any shots of the parts in the mold?I will be watching this thread very closely as I am working on molds for a project as this will be posted.Any pointers you can give would be greatly appreciated.This is the perfect method for a light E-powered ship.No worries about the IC engine vibrating it to death,Just the impact with planet earth.The best part after the molds are made is if you tear one up all you have to do is lay up another today and pop it out of the mold tomorrow.
    I wish I had time to speak with you more at the team trials about this but your practice time was more valuable than any questions I had.I love to learn so keep posting!!Tell Orestes and Josias their friendly team trial pull tester says "Howdy" when you talk to them next and keep up the good work,Jeff
If you wanna sing the blues(Fly Stunt) you gotta pay your dues and "I know it don't come easy"

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Re: composite fuse witn Dennis Adamisin's through fire wall motor mount
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 01:16:37 PM »
Jeff T. is my turn to thank you for your volunteer work at the team trial. you got up to speed and ran a great pull test. Your composite profile fuse is great. Sleepy Dawson had a similar flexing and vibration with his profile cardinal. After many engine adjustments the model would not hold a setting.
during the fall of 2003 i designed the following model for him. Neal Beekman Built the the first 2 models.
The fuse is molded using glass cloth,CF mat,color taffeta,balsa and epoxy to create a half profile half full fuse. Engine problems solved.
 
 At the beginning i dint have a vaccum system and i developed a composite system using Mylar, glass cloth, color taffeta(the color taffeta was used to give the pieces color to reduce weight.)
The wing,flaps,stab, elevators,fin and rudder were 1lbs foam. The fuse was a balsa,cloth and epoxy matrix. NOTE: all pieces were made without a vaccum bag. subsequent models were vaccum bagged.
See photos
Photo #1 side view of model
photo#2 composite fuse with blue taffeta
photo#3 foam wing (no balsa used) Yellow taffeta for color Black line is unidirectional carbon fiber


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