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Electric Stunt => Gettin all AMP'ed up! => Topic started by: RC Storick on August 21, 2013, 08:45:22 AM

Title: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: RC Storick on August 21, 2013, 08:45:22 AM
This is a peek at the electric Viper I am working on. I am shooting for 53-55 oz RTF. So far I am on track. There are some neat features I just can't show in pictures but here's what I have got finished.

Moments are 11.25 nose 17.5 tail. 702 SQ inches 11.25 root 8.5 tip. 2826-12 AXI and 5s TP 2700 MAH batteries. All old school construction methods and numbers. Just a few mods to bring it to electric.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at EV-2
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on August 21, 2013, 09:18:12 AM
Robert,
You are the fastest builder in the world!

Looks great... 20 pointer??
Title: Re: Sneek peek at EV-2
Post by: john e. holliday on August 22, 2013, 08:19:17 AM
Looking great.  I see he is sold on I-Beamers.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at EV-2
Post by: Randy Powell on August 22, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Well Robert, you sure don't let any grass grow under your feet. My next plan is certainly going to be laid out differently. First electric is an adventure, but we learn.

Looks good.
Title: All framed up
Post by: RC Storick on August 23, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
Now the fun begins. This is the third airplane I have built this season and I have a fourth started which would be done if I didn't have to rebuild this one 4 times. On this airplane I attempting to make it mid 50Ty's. So I went to the 2826-12 AXI motor so I could use the 5 S 10 ounce battery. I have made 4 beams 2 fuse 4 turtle decks 2 stab and elevators. I had bought Kaz landing gear for 5668 yen and they are neat but too heavy for this plane. I took a old Windy landing gear and sanded them down to 1.75 including wheels. The sanding on the inside of this plane (that will never be seen) is as good as the outside. The ribs are stitched with Kevlar thread at mid point.

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32511.0;attach=132731;image)

702 square inch. I am hoping this motor will pull this plane with authority. It should be fine if I can keep it light.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at EV-2 all framed up
Post by: RC Storick on August 24, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
Here is a way to stiffen up the wing in a very light way. The stitching is X from fuse to tip. Crossing each strand and CA at center. I also CA where it goes through the RIB. Well worth the extra effort.

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32511.0;attach=132789;image)

I used Kevlar thread.
Title: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: RC Storick on August 24, 2013, 05:47:47 PM
As it stands now with battery and wing tip weight its at 45.5 ready to fly less covering. Today while driving I thought of Momokote but I can bring myself to it. So I have 10 ounces to finish this in. Very doable. Its been a real battle to make it this light. The availability of good wood on my end is tough.

I made 4 spars and I think at 2.5 ounces even thought lighter than the rest it could have been lighter. the stab and elevators was 2.5 and I was happy with that. The batteries I have for test flight are the Zippy 5S 2700 at 11.5 so I can drop another ounce off the nose with the TP batteries.

All and all I am please as it should come close to target weight 55-57 ounces. Allot of work to drop 4 ounces.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: john e. holliday on August 24, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
That Kevlar thread is very interesting.   It sure would save a lot of cutting balsa strips.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: Dean Pappas on September 04, 2013, 08:29:39 AM
Hi Bob,
So this would be the charmed Viper that narrowly avoided a squashing?

Dean
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: Lauri Malila on September 04, 2013, 04:09:10 PM
Looks nice, I like the fin shape. But I'm a little worried about the wing mainspar. It looks flexible. L
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: RC Storick on September 05, 2013, 01:10:26 PM
Looks nice, I like the fin shape. But I'm a little worried about the wing mainspar. It looks flexible. L

The main spar is white pine and it a unitized method of construction. Any one part would flex but it's the sum of the total parts that make a beam wing work.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: Eric Viglione on September 05, 2013, 01:40:35 PM
Looks nice, I like the fin shape. But I'm a little worried about the wing mainspar. It looks flexible. L

Don't worry Lauri, in order for that spar to fold, Sparky would have to fly more, and build less.
 S?P
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: RC Storick on September 05, 2013, 01:56:18 PM
Sure
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: Paul Walker on September 05, 2013, 02:35:42 PM
The main spar is white pine and it a unitized method of construction. Any one part would flex but it's the sum of the total parts that make a beam wing work.


Strength and stiffness are two different things. The sum of all the parts might make it strong enough, but is it rigid enough to maintain proper aerodynamic shape?

I can see that Sparky hasn't given up on flying a zero weight plane yet!
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: RC Storick on September 05, 2013, 03:29:43 PM

Strength and stiffness are two different things. The sum of all the parts might make it strong enough, but is it rigid enough to maintain proper aerodynamic shape?

I can see that Sparky hasn't given up on flying a zero weight plane yet!

I see more and more following that path. They say it don't matter in one breath and in the next ask how much does it weigh. It is plenty rigid enough unless its 70 ounces.
Title: Re: Sneek peek at E-Viper all framed up
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on September 06, 2013, 08:58:12 PM
I got to see the new E-Viper last weekend - covered & ready for prime & paint.  Sparky's usual outstanding craftsmanship, one of the best electric installs yet seen.  The only missing was weight...