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Electric Stunt => Gettin all AMP'ed up! => Topic started by: jose modesto on January 18, 2011, 11:17:20 AM

Title: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 18, 2011, 11:17:20 AM
I'm building and all composite Electric Impact Master and would like to share the building of this model with the Electric comunity. BTW the model will be BOM compliant.
Whats and Impact Master? the IM series was started by me as a composite model in 2002. The model combines the Impact with the Pattern Master  51 wing.
 IN 2009 I started to build a composite Impact,the Impact,fuse stab molds were made,the wing molds were not finished on time but the 51 Pattern Master wing molds were, I combined the Impact fuse and stab with the PM51 wing and built it with PM moments(hinge to hinge). The aero dynamics(engine,wing,stab placement were impact.)
So the "Impact master".
 The composite shell wings are built in a Bob Hunt L.F.W.(lost Foam wing) jig.
after the recent BOM decision my plans for producing composite kits had to change. Solid  flying surface with fiberglass  cloth were no longer allowed.
in 2002 I was not satisfied at the weights of the wing panels and i started to cut solid panels to mimic an open bay wing the following system for building an open bay composite wing were developed. NOTE: if the model is not intended for the Nat's competition  then wings can be left solid cut outs not required.
Photo #1 shows the flexible exterior  balsa shell
photo#2 balsa shells with the lost foam wing outline while pinned to LFJ
photo#3 Same as Above
Jose Modesto

Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 18, 2011, 11:22:31 AM
additional photos.
Photo #4 close up LFW prior to cutting
photo #5 shell and actual lost foam wing
photo#6close up of wing shells,spar,cf doubler's,rib set
Jose
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on January 18, 2011, 03:26:44 PM
FABULOUS STUFF Jose...
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 18, 2011, 04:37:22 PM
Thanks Dennis. William Demauro just left the shop working on his composite model will post additional photos.
Jose
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 18, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
 The building of Impact Master 4. Composite Shells, the next step in building  a lost foam open bay wing.
photo #1 shells with built up wing cut outs
photo #2 close up of wing
photo #3 open and solid shells
Jose Modesto
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 19, 2011, 12:28:09 PM
Impact Master Balsa Shell  Electric fuselage.
photo#1 fuse side view. NOTE: fuse is 1991 FM Impact
photo#2 front view
photo#3 front view bellow spinner air inlet
photo#4 motor air outlets Molded balsa tubes.
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: Wynn Robins on January 19, 2011, 04:30:07 PM
thats an awesome idea for motor venting - going to have to use that I think......
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 20, 2011, 07:45:19 AM
Additional fuse construction and molding photos. I should of posted this group prior to showing full fuse.
photo #1 SV-22 wood formed over male plug
Photo#2 wood shells in female mold
photo#3 Impact wood shells just removed from mold (perimeter flashing attached) NOTE: photo also shows the female Impact Molds.
Photo#4 Impact  wood composite shells
Jose Modesto.

Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 20, 2011, 07:53:54 AM
additional photos.
photo#1 shell fuse ready for former for motor rer mount
photo#2 battery mounting plate
photo #3 Impact fuse with mounted cowl
Photo #4 rear mount former
Jose
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: Neal Beekman on January 20, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
Great work Jose, You Sina and Bill really do nice work. :) :)
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: WhittleN on January 20, 2011, 06:01:12 PM
Jose
That is very nice, should be a great combination.

Norm whittle
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 20, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Norm and Neal thanks. Sina,William and I are working hard to comply with the BOM for Nat's as it pertains to fiberglass composite models.
Norm currently using the Plattenberg motors with Shultzie controller.
 I have followed your post on your "E" Sultan love how clean your motor installation is. Also your building techniques.
Jose Modesto
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: Dean Pappas on January 21, 2011, 12:58:59 PM
Hi Gang,
I'd like to take a moment to tell you all how much it pleases me that you guys figure that "creative and novel" thought has a home here, even if it is not directly E-power related ...
Way to go, Jose.

Dean
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: William DeMauro on January 21, 2011, 05:08:29 PM
Dean,
 Jose and I will be E-Powered!!! We are working on Sina. We are not yet at the point of no return on his.
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 21, 2011, 06:25:26 PM
I'm building and all composite Electric Impact Master and would like to share the building of this model with the Electric comunity. BTW the model will be BOM compliant.
Dean this is the opening line of my post.
Dean real relevant to the "E" comunity just building in  different way.
I thought you would like a little out of the box thinking. why not Enjoy the advantages of E power with a different building system that most are not familiar with.
Dean how do you like my engine venting. may add two (2) vents a little bellow the side vents. trying to eliminate dead air spots in cowl. also planning on segregating the ESC with direct fresh air and exhaust vents, same for battery compartment.
Dean any thinking on inserting baffles, to reduce air flow when flying in cold air. specially early in season for batteries.
Jose Modesto
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: Dean Pappas on January 23, 2011, 01:33:01 PM
Hi Jose,
I was gonna ask you for component temps once you get it in the air!

Everything you've done looks like you've thought it through ... maybe even overkill. I like overkill!
The battery cooling is best if segregated from everything else, so that you can choke it off in cool weather in order to keep the batts at 100F post-flight temp.
I used to put a foam rubber plug in one of my two battery air inlets (cheek cowls) for cool weather. Then I went out in freezing weather and taped the second one almost completely over!

The motor and ESC just get happier with cooler temps, and I can't imagine the timers overheating.

again, Bravo!
    Dean
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 25, 2011, 12:21:09 PM
Dean and All. I have completed one half of composite wood shell built up wing.
Photo #1 LFCS lost foam composite shell. Bottom shell in bottom foam cradle,ribs and spars installed top shell taped in place.
Photo #2  different angel
photo#3 top shell taped to bottom shell.
Weight of completed one half wing 4.2oz    bellcranck and horn 1.5oz flaps flaps 1.5oz
Jose Modesto
Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: Wynn Robins on January 25, 2011, 02:37:43 PM
Jose -can you check your messages not sure if your e-mail is correct here.

Title: Re: NEW MODEL SHELL COMPOSITE "E" IMPACT MASTER
Post by: jose modesto on January 25, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
Winn got message i will respond tonight. Thanks Wynn