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New Half A electric
« on: February 09, 2009, 07:18:13 PM »
Here's a couple of pictures of my latest build. It's sort of a baby flite streak. Not from a kit but eyeballed from one that someone had at the field a couple of weeks ago. I got tired of trying to keep a glow motor from flaming out when inverted so I thought I'd build a 1/2A stunter that didn't have this problem.

Motor is an Himax 2812-1080, Castle Creations 15 ESC, Thunder Power 1320, 3 cell battery and a Will Hubin timer.
You can just see the arming button of the timer on the leading edge of the wing. There is a hatch that is closed with clear tape if I want to get at the trim pots on the timer.  I was able to stuff the ESC into the forward part of the wing and have the battery slung below the wing. All-up weight is 11.9 oz.

I haven't had a chance to fly it yet, hopefully this coming weekend the weather will cooperate and I can give it a test fly. I'm looking forward to some reliable power. I'll have to test a little bit to find the right prop, I'm sure I have plenty of motor though. Should be fun.
Bob Frogner

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 09:13:26 PM »
Now how COOOOL is that???  8)  H^^  #^

That is going to fly great - hang on for the ride!
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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 09:20:52 PM »
Very cool!  How much wing area does it have?  What size prop?  Watch out Sugar Grove!


edited to change location.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2009, 08:30:33 AM by Crist Rigotti »
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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 11:47:06 PM »
The span is about 24", chord is about 6" so about 144 sq"

I used a 9X4.5 on an earlier model with this motor so I'll start with that and see how it flies.

Hope it works well!

Bob Frogner

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2009, 08:02:18 AM »
Very cool!  How much wing area does it have?  What size prop?  Watch out Sandwich!

Well remember, Jim requires electrics to use a 6" prop or smaller! n1

Also the contest moved to the Sugar Grove Airport since we lost access to the grass field at Sandwich.

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2009, 08:29:38 AM »
I like your idea of a 4 bladed 6" prop.  BTW, is all the other 1/2a's limited to a 6" prop too?   S?P  I changed the location to sugar Grove.
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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2009, 10:28:19 AM »
Chris and Alan, I didn't build it for the contest you are talking about (I'm a few thousand miles away from Sugar Grove!!!). I just built it so I can learn how to fly some stunts. I've always flown race, speed or carrier events and don't have a clue about loops and flying inverted. This is a plane to try and learn a few new tricks!!

( I don't understand the Sandwich comment, could you help me out on that?)
Bob Frogner

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2009, 10:50:10 AM »
Bob,
There is a 1/2a contest every year around these parts.  It has been held at Sandwich IL in the past but has moved to Sugar Grove IL.  Alan and I were just having some fun.  Didn't mean to pull it off topic.

BTW, a very nice job on your model.  Please keep us informed.
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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2009, 11:02:19 AM »
Bob,
There is a 1/2a contest every year around these parts.  It has been held at Sandwich IL in the past but has moved to Sugar Grove IL.  Alan and I were just having some fun.  Didn't mean to pull it off topic.

BTW, a very nice job on your model.  Please keep us informed.

Yes just some Midwest humor!

Crist if you are talking about other propulsion systems at Jim's Contest ("It's Only a Hobby 1/2 a Contest"), the 1/2A pedigree is given by the engine, it needs to be 1/2A or smaller (0.51). Now Jim has relented and allowed 061's, but I think there is some point penalty. But anyway, trying to get back to the point ( LL~), other than electric, any prop goes!

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 09:58:34 AM »
Guys,

I have a great little 1/2A ship framed up, it was started over a year ago designed for a piped 0.049 (pipe was still to be developed) that I think would be great for electric power. It is about 250sq wing area right now it weighs around 8oz in bare wood. I would like to run maybe a 6x3 prop on 45-50' lines. What E power package fits?

Best,          Dennis

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 11:08:06 AM »
Guys,

I have a great little 1/2A ship framed up, it was started over a year ago designed for a piped 0.049 (pipe was still to be developed) that I think would be great for electric power. It is about 250sq wing area right now it weighs around 8oz in bare wood. I would like to run maybe a 6x3 prop on 45-50' lines. What E power package fits?

Best,          Dennis

Dennis,
Here is what I did. http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=8690.0
(note that the video's are no longer there).

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 05:23:58 AM »
Dennis,

This might be thinking outside the box, but I have tested some of the Turnigy 2040 in-runner motors.  I have a a 4850 Kv I use on a XPD-8 ducted fan on 3S and a 2080 Kv that I planned to put in a 400 sized racer.  After testing the 2080 Kv motor, I found it would run great on a 6 x 4 APC on 3S and be very light with little current and high efficiency.  You would only need a 3S 750 pack to make a full pattern.  I have also tested an Emax 2805 2840 Kv out-runner and it would also be a great candidate.  The Emax 2805 2840Kv cost $5.95 and the 2040 2080Kv cost $16.50.  Both of these would make great 1/2 A stunt motors.

Let us know how it works out for you.

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 06:48:33 PM »
Here's an update on the plane at the top of the thread. I had a few problems with it and just got it back in the air.

I switched the motor because it was a little fast for my liking. It's the same size motor but one with a KV of 850. I crashed it trying to do my first figure 8 (turned into a nine!!) and bent the shaft. I straightened the shaft and put it back in the plane. It now flies a little slower and uses a little less power. On Sunday I flew it and was able to do loops very easily. I had Larry Wong fly it once to see what it could do (since he knows what he's doing and I don't). He did inside, outside, squares etc. He thought it flew well and would be a good trainer.

I did a few measurements and was surprised. On 3 cells it draws a bit less than 8 amps so about 90 watts. That's good because it means I can use a smaller battery pack and still get good flight times.

Since I mainly fly carrier and racing I'm hoping I can use it to learn some new tricks like inverted, eights and outside loops!!
Bob Frogner

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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 09:08:07 PM »
Bob is right with a little practice and a longer run it will do the pattern, and with the pusher prop. that he runs it always has a firm feel on the lines.   ( GO  FOR IT BOB ) #^ #^ #^
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Re: New Half A electric
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 07:09:35 AM »
Looks great Bob! Thanks for posting it.   H^^  ~>


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