News:


  • June 14, 2025, 01:47:33 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: New Electric Twin project back on track  (Read 149829 times)

Offline john e. holliday

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 22973
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #400 on: September 15, 2014, 10:07:28 AM »
I hope he has a safe trip.   Also for him to say to the guys from the old DOC.
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Offline Motorman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • ******
  • Posts: 3664
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #401 on: September 18, 2014, 12:39:07 PM »
Wasted words ain't never been heard. Alman Brothers

Offline Serge_Krauss

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • ******
  • Posts: 1330
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #402 on: September 18, 2014, 01:10:54 PM »
Hi, Bob-

This is a great thread, and I'm much impressed with the e-twin! 'hope you can make it to our area this weekend for the annual Akron/Cleveland Area contest at MAPS.

SK

Offline john e. holliday

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 22973
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #403 on: October 06, 2014, 02:54:43 PM »
That twin still looks awesome.
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Offline wwwarbird

  • 2016 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 8084
  • Welcome to the Stunt Hanger.
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #404 on: October 06, 2014, 07:14:41 PM »

 Cool stuff, can't wait to see the finished "full meal deal". #^
Narrowly averting disaster since 1964! 

Wayne Willey
Albert Lea, MN U.S.A. IC C/L Aircraft Modeler, Ex AMA member

Offline Allan Perret

  • 2017
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1892
  • Proverbs
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #405 on: October 14, 2014, 03:52:08 PM »
Put me down for the plans & CD.
In the last picture there is a lot yaw out relative to lines.  Looks like you are at top of wingover.  Normal ?
Allan Perret
AMA 302406
Slidell, Louisiana

Offline RC Storick

  • Forum owner
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 12558
  • The finish starts with the first piece of wood cut
    • Stunt Hangar
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #406 on: October 26, 2014, 12:20:28 PM »
Here is a novel idea to at least try. One pusher and one tractor. I have no clue what it would do.
AMA 12366

Offline MikeCoulombe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Commander
  • ****
  • Posts: 127
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #407 on: October 26, 2014, 12:54:30 PM »
Very nice Bob, I too would be interested in plans and c/d.

Offline RC Storick

  • Forum owner
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 12558
  • The finish starts with the first piece of wood cut
    • Stunt Hangar
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #408 on: October 26, 2014, 03:06:03 PM »
I didn't think of it. Oh well we know that works LL~
AMA 12366

Online Howard Rush

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 7964
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #409 on: October 26, 2014, 09:17:52 PM »
Future experiments include trying the props turning the other way. Right now the tops of the props are turning towards the canopy. We’ll try it with the tops of the props turning away from the canopy the next time out. This is a simple matter of switching any two wires on each motor and then switching the props and spinners.  I guess, to cover all the bases, we should also try turning both props in the same direction just to be certain that we’ve left no stone unturned…

I feel the need to repeat the advice I gave you on page 5:

motor 1 rotation   motor 2 rotation   prop 1  prop 2  outcome
        L                       L                  L         L         OK
        L                       L                  L         R         bad
        L                       L                  R         L         bad
        L                       L                  R         R         bad
        L                       R                  L         L         bad
        L                       R                  L         R         good
        L                       R                  R         L         bad
        L                       R                  R         R         bad 
        R                       L                  L         L         bad
        R                       L                  L         R         bad
        R                       L                  R         L         good
        R                       L                  R         R         bad
        R                       R                  L         L         bad
        R                       R                  L         R         bad
        R                       R                  R         L         bad
        R                       R                  R         R         OK

I wouldn't risk it.
The Jive Combat Team
Making combat and stunt great again

Offline Tim Wescott

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 12891
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #410 on: November 10, 2014, 04:38:58 PM »
Do you have any pictures of these area tabs of yours in this little thread?  Or have I missed them somewhere?
AMA 64232

The problem with electric is that once you get the smoke generator and sound system installed, the plane is too heavy.

Offline Allan Perret

  • 2017
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1892
  • Proverbs
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #411 on: November 11, 2014, 07:37:26 AM »
For a fast & easy temporary tab I use a piece of manila folder stock.  Fold it half, cut to size and tape it on. 
Allan Perret
AMA 302406
Slidell, Louisiana

Online Larry Renger

  • 21 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4053
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #412 on: January 04, 2015, 02:39:14 PM »
So, when are you going to do the forward swept canard twin?  VD~
Think S.M.A.L.L. y'all and, it's all good, CL, FF and RC!

DesignMan
 BTW, Dracula Sucks!  A closed mouth gathers no feet!

Offline MarcusCordeiro

  • 2013 Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1872
  • "Never fly faster than your shoulder angel"
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #413 on: January 07, 2015, 03:04:01 PM »
I love this thread...

Marcus
Live to fly, fly to live
Aces High!

"There's no try. Do or Do not." - Master Yoda

"Wealth and fame, he's ignorant
Action is his reward, look out
Here comes Marcus, man..."

Online Crist Rigotti

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4060
  • Electric - The future of Old Time Stunt
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #414 on: January 20, 2015, 10:21:34 AM »
Here I thought the holes were for needle valves!  Very nice Bob.
Crist
AMA 482497
Waxahachie, TX
Electric - The Future of Old Time Stunt

Online Larry Renger

  • 21 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4053
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #415 on: March 08, 2015, 09:14:08 AM »
Anything new on this project?  ???
Think S.M.A.L.L. y'all and, it's all good, CL, FF and RC!

DesignMan
 BTW, Dracula Sucks!  A closed mouth gathers no feet!

Online jfv

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 648
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #416 on: June 26, 2015, 01:10:56 PM »
Very nice Bob.  This twin thing is catching on.  Watched Rick Huff kick butt at Brodak in Intermediate with his Pathfinder twin.
Jim Vigani

Offline Allan Perret

  • 2017
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1892
  • Proverbs
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #417 on: June 26, 2015, 01:22:38 PM »
Plans, we need Plans.  How many sq.in. wing area for that 68oz ?
Allan Perret
AMA 302406
Slidell, Louisiana

Online Larry Renger

  • 21 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4053
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #418 on: June 26, 2015, 04:46:03 PM »
You know, you can get a counter-rotating power setup that would be perfect in the nose of the fuselage!  If some is good, more is better, and too much is just right!  VD~
Think S.M.A.L.L. y'all and, it's all good, CL, FF and RC!

DesignMan
 BTW, Dracula Sucks!  A closed mouth gathers no feet!

Offline Allan Perret

  • 2017
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1892
  • Proverbs
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #419 on: June 26, 2015, 04:47:24 PM »
Plans may be a while yet...

It has 650 square inches of area, but remember, I've quoted the battery on board weight. A glow twin with two .15 size engines would require 8 ounces of fuel (two four ounce tanks), and fuel weighs nominally an ounce per fluid ounce, so it's equivalent to a 60 ounce glow twin without that eight ounces. With the 20 inches of disk span, providing a lot of artificial air blast over the surfaces, and the greatly decreased drag with the retracts, it should do okay.

Later - Bob
You using .014 solids or .018 cables ?
Allan Perret
AMA 302406
Slidell, Louisiana

Online Brent Williams

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1342
    • Fancher Handles - Presented by Brent Williams
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #420 on: June 28, 2015, 01:35:36 AM »
Very nicely done, Bob!
Laser-cut, "Ted Fancher Precision-Pro" Hard Point Handle Kits are available again.  PM for info.
https://stunthanger.com/smf/brent-williams'-fancher-handles-and-cl-parts/ted-fancher's-precision-pro-handle-kit-by-brent-williams-information/

Offline Airacobra

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Commander
  • ****
  • Posts: 293
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #421 on: June 30, 2015, 01:33:51 PM »
Great looking plane Bob. I hope I have the opportunity to see it fly.
Keith Bryant

Offline wwwarbird

  • 2016 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 8084
  • Welcome to the Stunt Hanger.
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #422 on: June 30, 2015, 06:15:05 PM »

 It's DONE!  :o

 Just in time for the NATS Bob!  ;D
Narrowly averting disaster since 1964! 

Wayne Willey
Albert Lea, MN U.S.A. IC C/L Aircraft Modeler, Ex AMA member

Offline Shawn Lenci

  • 23 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 171
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #423 on: July 04, 2015, 08:08:44 AM »
Bob,

Glad you are feeling better.  Really nice stuff in those photos.  Beautiful airplanes, both of them. H^^  I'll bet they look fantastic in the air.  Good Luck in Muncie!

Shawn
AMA 97686

Offline Jeff Traxler

  • T-Bone
  • 2019 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 645
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #424 on: July 04, 2015, 12:06:40 PM »
I'll have guitars in tow....... #^ #^
If you wanna sing the blues(Fly Stunt) you gotta pay your dues and "I know it don't come easy"

Offline Randy Powell

  • 21 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 10476
  • TreeTop Flyer
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #425 on: July 07, 2015, 11:44:20 AM »
Bob, that is just cool. Great achievement.
Member in good standing of P.I.S.T
(Politically Incorrect Stunt Team)
AMA 67711
 Randy Powell

Offline Randy Powell

  • 21 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 10476
  • TreeTop Flyer
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #426 on: July 07, 2015, 01:21:55 PM »
Bet it flies better. Betcha.
Member in good standing of P.I.S.T
(Politically Incorrect Stunt Team)
AMA 67711
 Randy Powell

Robby Hunt

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #427 on: July 07, 2015, 02:27:29 PM »
Deuces are wild...here we see a pair of conspirators, double down on rudders (200% more than a Genesis mind you), and of course, Bubba flashing the international sign for twins...

Robby Hunt

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #428 on: July 07, 2015, 03:46:55 PM »
Ahh, the early days...back then the trick was to keep the batteries from rotting...

Offline Dean Pappas

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *****
  • Posts: 1195
  • Welcome to the Stunt Hanger.
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #429 on: July 09, 2015, 02:49:55 PM »
Deuces are wild...here we see a pair of conspirators, double down on rudders (200% more than a Genesis mind you), and of course, Bubba flashing the international sign for twins...

Troublemakers, all ... Would you buy a used Stunter from these guys?

Have a great NATs, everybody,
   Dean P.
Dean Pappas

Online Howard Rush

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 7964
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #430 on: July 13, 2015, 09:33:53 PM »
Saw Bob's and Bud's twins today at appearance judging.  Very pretty.  I lectured Bud on the perils of motor direction and prop direction matching.
The Jive Combat Team
Making combat and stunt great again

Online Larry Renger

  • 21 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4053
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #431 on: July 13, 2015, 09:47:28 PM »
Troublemakers, all ... Would you buy a used Stunter from these guys?  In a heartbeat!  #^
Think S.M.A.L.L. y'all and, it's all good, CL, FF and RC!

DesignMan
 BTW, Dracula Sucks!  A closed mouth gathers no feet!

Online Crist Rigotti

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4060
  • Electric - The future of Old Time Stunt
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #432 on: July 25, 2015, 07:59:56 PM »
Well done thy good and faithful servant!

All the best.
Crist
AMA 482497
Waxahachie, TX
Electric - The Future of Old Time Stunt

Offline Jim Oliver

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1414
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #433 on: April 24, 2016, 10:05:38 PM »
Bob,
Trust you're still checking in---any news on plans for the Second Wind?

Thanks,
Jim
Jim Oliver
AMA 18475

Offline Will Hinton

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 2804
    • www.authorwillhinton.com
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #434 on: May 07, 2016, 02:49:50 PM »
What guitar ya playing the most these days partner?  Wait 'til you see the fretboard Trax brought to me at the end of his last trip your way - many hours of inlay happening to it!
John 5:24   www.fcmodelers.com

Offline Will Hinton

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 2804
    • www.authorwillhinton.com
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #435 on: May 08, 2016, 04:27:56 PM »
No hurry at all on the mold, my current one is still good.  Jeff brought me back half a dozen necks and fretboards the last trip, I can't make them for the price he gets them for!
Taylor for sure at my end too, except that I play my own instead. But if I weren't building guitars, I would be playing Taylor's.  If I were to be honest about it, I mostly use Taylor specs for my setups.  H^^
On my electrics I use PRS specs.  (And folks wonder why my instruments play so easily.)
That Grand Concert is one fine piece of work.  Congrats on that one.
To get back to the control line part of our lives, it is almost total history for me, too, at this time.  I hope to revitalize my interest soon, but it's nearly impossible right now.  NO guys, I AIN'T selling my PA's!!  Or anything else for that matter, I do plan to come back and qualify to fly expert at some time in my life.
John 5:24   www.fcmodelers.com

Offline john e. holliday

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 22973
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #436 on: May 08, 2016, 05:04:00 PM »
I'll keep watching for yah. LL~ LL~
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Online Brent Williams

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1342
    • Fancher Handles - Presented by Brent Williams
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #437 on: September 07, 2017, 12:51:22 PM »
If these are up for sale, what are you flying these days?
Laser-cut, "Ted Fancher Precision-Pro" Hard Point Handle Kits are available again.  PM for info.
https://stunthanger.com/smf/brent-williams'-fancher-handles-and-cl-parts/ted-fancher's-precision-pro-handle-kit-by-brent-williams-information/

Offline Allan Perret

  • 2017
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1892
  • Proverbs
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #438 on: September 07, 2017, 02:04:55 PM »
I'm seriously interested, in plans.  Would pay a premium price for this plan..  Any chance of that happening ?
Allan Perret
AMA 302406
Slidell, Louisiana

Online Howard Rush

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 7964
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #439 on: October 21, 2022, 05:08:13 PM »
Worth a bump to call attention to post #575, relevant to a recent discussion with Tim Just about twins.
The Jive Combat Team
Making combat and stunt great again

Rick_Huff

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #440 on: October 22, 2022, 02:11:25 PM »
Howard,
Thank you for your chart.  It saved me many very embarrasing experiments!
Rick

Offline Dwayne Donnelly

  • 24 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 626
  • Balsa Beavers Toronto Canada
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #441 on: October 26, 2022, 12:08:14 PM »
I like the tail of the Turning Point and by chance would not retiring  mean you'll be cutting cores for us to buy again?  #^
My purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

Offline Ken Culbertson

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 7034
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #442 on: October 26, 2022, 01:06:14 PM »
It is OK by me if you don't get back into the core business.  We need you innovating not replicating.

Ken
AMA 15382
If it is not broke you are not trying hard enough.
USAF 1968-1974 TAC

Online Crist Rigotti

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 4060
  • Electric - The future of Old Time Stunt
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #443 on: May 03, 2023, 04:14:02 PM »
Really nice work Bob!
Crist
AMA 482497
Waxahachie, TX
Electric - The Future of Old Time Stunt

Offline John Skukalek

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 205
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #444 on: May 03, 2023, 06:12:17 PM »
Ultra Classy Bob.

Offline john e. holliday

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 22973
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #445 on: May 03, 2023, 08:33:04 PM »
Bet t looks even better in person.  But, family and knees keep me home plus other stuff. D>K
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Offline john e. holliday

  • 25 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 22973
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #446 on: May 12, 2023, 01:27:33 PM »
Thanks for the offer Bob, but even if the family let me I would be a pain. H^^
John E. "DOC" Holliday
10421 West 56th Terrace
Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
AMA 23530  Have fun as I have and I am still breaking a record.

Offline M Spencer

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • ******
  • Posts: 5238
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #447 on: May 16, 2023, 11:15:02 PM »
Looks a bit like a ' Space age ' version of this . Thought the picture a bit evocative .


CRIPES ;


any Volunteers ? .
« Last Edit: May 16, 2023, 11:38:25 PM by Air Ministry . »

Offline bdt-m

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Lieutenant
  • ***
  • Posts: 92
Re: New Electric Twin project back on track
« Reply #448 on: June 06, 2023, 07:52:44 AM »
Bob Hunt:

Check your messages.

Thanks


Advertise Here
Tags: