Author Topic: New Electric Twin project back on track (Read 149879 times)

Mike Ferguson · « **Reply #200 on:** September 05, 2012, 07:36:44 AM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 05, 2012, 06:37:20 AM

I'm thinking about offering a CD with all the construction photos that have been taken along the way on this project. There are lots and lots of them! Does anyone have any interest in this?

Absolutely.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #201 on:** September 05, 2012, 08:42:30 AM »

Count the old DOC in on a CD.

Bill Little · « **Reply #202 on:** September 05, 2012, 10:20:16 AM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 05, 2012, 08:03:35 AM

(snip)
I'd have to get enough interest in this in order to put the photos in chronilogical order and then have them burned to CDs. I'm guessing that the price on such a CD would be $5.00, plus shipping.
(snip)
Later - Bob

HI Bob,

I believe you can ship the CD mailer through USPS for less than $5 so a price of $10 shipped might be feasible?

I would be in for one!
Bill

Matt Colan · « **Reply #203 on:** September 05, 2012, 11:35:29 AM »

Simply Amazing Bob!!!! And count me in on a CD as well!

RandySmith · « **Reply #204 on:** September 09, 2012, 10:40:34 AM »

Thats a really really nice piece of work, what size are the spinners?

Randy

Howard Rush · « **Reply #205 on:** September 09, 2012, 07:53:40 PM »

Paint is not the only stunning scheme
Plotted by the Jive Combat Team.

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #206 on:** September 09, 2012, 08:22:01 PM »

just dont paint it red white and blue
any other colour combination will do

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #207 on:** September 09, 2012, 08:34:16 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 09, 2012, 08:26:17 PM

What's wrong with red, white, and blue? I'm a very patriotic kind of guy and those have become my new airplane colors. Everyone seemed to like the red, white, and blue on the Crossfire...

A white base with red and white trim look pretty good, too. Depending on how much of the white gets painted over with red and blue, you can pretty much make it as loud and intrusive, or as subtle, as you want.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #208 on:** September 09, 2012, 08:59:16 PM »

Count me in for red, white, and blue!

James Mills · « **Reply #209 on:** September 09, 2012, 09:51:45 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 09, 2012, 09:06:26 PM

Nice Crist!

It seems to me that now, more than ever before, we need to remember what the red, white, and blue stands for. I'm proud to have it on my plane. There may come a time when it is illegal to do this... Stranger things have happened recently...

Bob Hunt

Bob and Crist, ditto that on the Red, White and Blue. The new twin looks very cool.

James

Chris_Burgess · « **Reply #210 on:** September 10, 2012, 06:26:18 PM »

Add me to the Red White and Blue, crew too.

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #211 on:** September 10, 2012, 08:44:51 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 09, 2012, 08:26:17 PM

What's wrong with red, white, and blue? I'm a very patriotic kind of guy and those have become my new airplane colors. Everyone seemed to like the red, white, and blue on the Crossfire...

Hey, at least it won't be bronze...

coz all you 'mericans use red white and blue........

our flag is red white and blue too - so are the flags of Australia, England,France, Russia, Netherlands, Serbia, Slovakia, Croatia, Iceland............it conts.

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #212 on:** September 10, 2012, 08:49:27 PM »

BTW- I like your bronze planes!!!!!!!!!

john e. holliday · « **Reply #213 on:** September 11, 2012, 08:38:21 AM »

Maybe we need to paint the wing up like the flag, with bars and stars. I know its been done before.

PerttiMe · « **Reply #214 on:** September 11, 2012, 01:31:28 PM »

hmmmm, I think a touch of yellow/gold, in addition to red, white, and blue, is a nice touch on Igor Burger's electric World Champion ship.

Darkstar1 · « **Reply #215 on:** September 11, 2012, 05:30:43 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 11, 2012, 04:07:40 PM

That's very nice, Chris. What plane is that at the right in the photo? Looks like either a Panther or a Cougar.

Bob Hunt

Bob,
Take a closer look I don't know what It is either. But it looks like a twin boom job with the nose missing.

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #216 on:** September 11, 2012, 06:21:00 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on September 11, 2012, 08:38:21 AM

Maybe we need to paint the wing up like the flag, with bars and stars. I know its been done before.

Here's Bruce Hunt with a flag-ish scheme:

Taken at the Dick Scobee memorial contest: http://www.flyinglines.org/scobee.12.html

Howard Rush · « **Reply #217 on:** September 11, 2012, 09:05:33 PM »

That man was painting an airplane in my garage this very afternoon.

Chris_Burgess · « **Reply #218 on:** September 15, 2012, 02:35:34 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on September 11, 2012, 04:07:40 PM

That's very nice, Chris. What plane is that at the right in the photo? Looks like either a Panther or a Cougar.

Bob Hunt

That right there is a Pegasus, with the nose missing... which was a rather unfortunate incident, but it has retracts in it...

Will Hinton · « **Reply #219 on:** September 15, 2012, 03:46:41 PM »

Red, white and blue is a definite choice for me, especially, as you said Bob, during this time in our lives. Count me in for a CD and likely for a twin sometime after my next bipe!

James Mills · « **Reply #220 on:** September 15, 2012, 05:02:07 PM »

Bob,

Count me in for a CD as well.

James

William DeMauro · « **Reply #221 on:** September 15, 2012, 05:07:13 PM »

I always liked patriotic designs and went back to red, white and blue on my SV22 refinish. Sina was a huge influence on that refinish. I am also working with Sina on a patriotic finish on my new stunter,Voltron.

James Strickland · « **Reply #222 on:** September 17, 2012, 12:32:03 AM »

Hey Bob, Definately put me in for a CD please. Red, White, & Blue is also A must for me in these TRYING world event times, especially for my first 2 electrics that are under way now, a Ringmaster & A Profile Cardinal will absolutely need a Patriotic touch in their finishes. I'm actually doing 2 each, one IC. & one Elec. each so I can do a direct comparison between IC. & Elec. I thought that would be a great way to do it

.

Thanks,
James

Serge_Krauss · « **Reply #223 on:** September 17, 2012, 08:03:04 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on September 11, 2012, 06:21:00 PM

Here's Bruce Hunt with a flag-ish scheme:

I like it! Simple, elegant too.

paul winter · « **Reply #224 on:** November 02, 2012, 09:20:06 AM »

hi BOB

just need to know what size battery are you going to use

paul

M Spencer · « **Reply #225 on:** April 01, 2013, 11:12:51 PM »

Right ; Well Then ; Where were we .

M Spencer · « **Reply #226 on:** April 02, 2013, 06:17:39 PM »

just wondrin how its doin , where its at . One thing with electric , theres no oil to hasten painting before flight .

Frank Imbriaco · « **Reply #227 on:** April 07, 2013, 08:10:16 AM »

Bob,
Fillets look great ! A real art form , indeed !

Randy Powell · « **Reply #228 on:** April 07, 2013, 07:36:07 PM »

Yes. For molds (at least ones that you are only planning to use a few times), Tap Plastics makes two three different materials. I use QwikMold for most of the molds I make, but it's a prototyping material and while it's pretty hard, it will chip after awhile. Good for pulling 3 or 4 pieces.

M Spencer · « **Reply #229 on:** April 07, 2013, 09:22:29 PM »

" it was about enjoying the designing and building journey " .

this makes it a SAGA , like ' Gone with the Wind ' ,

and all the better for it .
these young blokes are all in a rush these days .

" I hope I can sustain that feeling all the way through the finishing process. " !

at least it wont get oil all over it to impeed the paint adheshion , if you fly it before the graphics are applied .

found with a bit of keel area , the inner outter bits not a lot of worry , running a booming 25 & a yapping 19 together .
At times the inner wants to chime in , or NEEDs to . Uphill Vertical in gusts .

one should avoid this effect though . with control line .

"in 1951 when he flew the ground attack version of the Meteor with a
demonstration of a new manoeuvre that he had developed and dubbed the 'Zurabatic
Cartwheel'."

a bit of tipweight can be usefull

wwwarbird · « **Reply #230 on:** April 07, 2013, 11:27:26 PM »

Bob, did you mask for your fillets? Just curious...

john e. holliday · « **Reply #231 on:** April 08, 2013, 08:50:45 AM »

I see I am going to have to quit being a cheap skate and get some Super Fil. Also the twin is looking great. I wouldn't be surprised if it flies as well as or better than some of your other designs.

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #232 on:** April 08, 2013, 09:47:45 AM »

Doc,
I've been using Super-Fil for about 15 years now. Bill Werwage got me on to it. Bobby explained the application perfectly. I used other items for fillets in the past but Super-Fil is the only one that is trouble free.

The quantity is good for at least 4 or 5 stunters, so it is really cheap.

Bob,
Can't wait to see the airplanes coming out of the production spray booth this week. I also think the twin will be very competitive.

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #233 on:** April 08, 2013, 11:43:32 AM »

I'll be back when I find words to express what I can see in those pics, right now, it's just a blank.
Maybe state-of-the-art??
I feel like I'm a beginner...
Simply "A"mazing.

Marcus

RC Storick · « **Reply #234 on:** September 26, 2013, 09:32:41 AM »

Definitely looks cool! You are a true craftsman. Only 1 question. What is the hole on both sides of the main fuse on top?

Also a idea I will be steeling is the taping off of the open bays to save weight and time sanding.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #235 on:** September 26, 2013, 10:50:12 AM »

No kidding, I always try to keep away from the open bays but there is always some overspray to sand off. Good idea! I have been hesitant to use the Chroma Base paints because I do open bays on most of my planes. Let me know if you learn any new tricks when you do yours.

By the way, It looks wicked awesome!!!!

Derek

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #236 on:** September 26, 2013, 04:40:58 PM »

Way cool!!!

Marcus

Randy Powell · « **Reply #237 on:** September 26, 2013, 08:57:12 PM »

Man, that thing is just cool. It oozes cool. A flashy paint scheme and it will be simply awesome in the air.

Congrats Bob, the thing is top shelf.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #238 on:** September 26, 2013, 10:32:32 PM »

Looks awesome Bob!!

wwwarbird · « **Reply #239 on:** September 26, 2013, 11:12:42 PM »

Looks awesome Bob, glad to see that you're back on it. I've got a hunch that you'll surprise even yourself with the performance.

Got that copper paint stirred up?

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #240 on:** September 27, 2013, 09:10:56 AM »

Bob,
This airplane is a winner already!

Avaiojet · « **Reply #241 on:** September 27, 2013, 05:37:49 PM »

Bob,

Your model is really shapping up, you do good work. "SO." Standing ovation!

Posted a 2-view ta boot. What a guy!!

Plans? Kit in the works?

I'm looking forward to your progress.

Charles

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #242 on:** October 02, 2013, 07:19:06 AM »

Is the color scheme settled yet?

Derek Barry · « **Reply #243 on:** October 02, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »

As long as you get it done before the Joe Nall. I want to see this plane fly!

Derek

P.S. I would like to take it for a spin too!

Robby Hunt · « **Reply #244 on:** October 03, 2013, 12:14:06 PM »

Quote from: Derek Barry on October 02, 2013, 08:40:53 AM

As long as you get it done before the Joe Nall. I want to see this plane fly!

Derek

P.S. I would like to take it for a spin too!

You're gonna have to get in line!

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #245 on:** October 17, 2013, 08:12:38 AM »

Progress report?

Keith Renecle · « **Reply #246 on:** October 25, 2013, 01:22:46 AM »

Hi Bob,

The twin looks great so far, and thanks for the regular updates. Have you settled on the power system yet....motors, props and batteries? I know that I asked this before, but no-one gave a clear answer to how to work what size motors to use for a twin of similar size to a single motor/engine stunter. I would seem like the motor size is smaller than just dividing by 2. For example on Paul Walkers' B17 he used 4 x .15 engines and that sort-of works out to an equivalent .60. That huge bomber would most likely have need a .75 or bigger to perform like that, so it would be nice if someone has a basic formula for doing this. Thanks and keep going with this project.

Keith R

wwwarbird · « **Reply #247 on:** November 09, 2013, 11:13:45 PM »

What's the latest Bob?

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #248 on:** December 03, 2013, 02:00:00 AM »

Keith :

For example on Paul Walkers' B17 he used 4 x .15 engines and that sort-of works out to an equivalent .60. That huge bomber would most likely have need a .75 or bigger to perform like that, so it would be nice if someone has a basic formula for doing this.

Im sure Paul will chime in a little more, but the ratio doesnt work out to be " equivilant " to a .60. The B17 was close to the 100oz mark and its unlikely that a regular .60 in the nose would do the same job. The combination of the 4 engines in total is far stronger. When I did the Lancaster ( weighed in at 120 oz )- Paul mentioned the 4 x 15's were going to be more than enough, however we opted for 4 x Enya .19's which would be a .76 in displacement just for some headroom - but again performance was far greater than any .75 + sized engine.

Without having any aero degree background I do not know the specifics or the Math going on. I can only comment on what I found during that project.

BOB : Never seen fillets being taped up - Im stealing that one... Looking awesome.

John Rist · « **Reply #249 on:** December 03, 2013, 07:50:34 AM »

On the multi engine equivalent issue it could have something to do with the smaller the engine the more HP per CI. Also the tip of the prop does most of the pulling. On a multi engine setup you have increased the prop tip area. It's the same reason sale plains have long skinny wings. increases the efficacy. I should ask my Son - he is a real engineer.

Author Topic: New Electric Twin project back on track (Read 149879 times)

Robby Hunt