News:



  • June 01, 2024, 11:35:02 AM

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: My Porky Force!  (Read 518 times)

Offline Ward Van Duzer

  • 2015
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1284
My Porky Force!
« on: August 24, 2011, 12:25:23 PM »
Holy Smoke! Oooops, I guess that’s not appropriate language around here! OK.

Yikes Crist! I just got all my e stuff mounted on my P Force and it’s an anchor!
 49 ozs.

So how did you do 38 ozs. Crist? Mine started out at abt. 40 oz. with an FP .40.

I’m equipped with an E Flite Power 15, a Gen Ace 4S 2500mah and a CC ICE 50.

First I’m noticing that your 4S 2200 battery is way smaller than my 4S 2500. Smaller, it fits on the nose of your Force like a plastic tank. Mine is halfway up the wing!

OK, for comparison, my E Flite power 15 is within a gram of your Scorpion. My Gen Ace battery is 300 grams. (10.6 ozs.) Your Gadex is 235 grams (8 ¼ ozs.) I’m using a CC ICE 50.  Overkill yes, but not a major weight differential between us. So far that gives you an equipment weight advantage of 2 ¼ ozs. That leaves you with an overall weight advantage 8.75 ozs. Do you think you removed that much by putting holes in the tail? I wouldn’t think so. Ennyway, if you did, wouldn’t that leave a very nose heavy plane. Mine now has roughly 18 ozs. of power equip. in the nose as opposed to the original FP at about 12 ozs. Engine, muffler, spinner and tank.

So where did I go wrong? Am I over powered? I AM overwhelmed!

And Oh yea…Where did you get the Gadex 4S 2200? All I have found is 3S’s.

Ward

I hate spelling errors, you mess up 2 letters and you are urined!

Don't hesitate to ask dumb questions.
They are easier to handle than dumb mistakes!  Ward-O AMA 6022

Offline Bob Hunt

  • 23 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 2760
Re: My Porky Force!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 06:08:19 AM »
Well, first off, Wardo, compare apples to apples. That 49 ounces is with "fuel" on board! Subtract 4 to 6 ounces (depending on the size tank that would normally be used on this ship as a glow model... remember, glow fuel weighs nominally an ounce per fluid ounce) and you have the comparative weight. Let's say that you normally use five ounces of fuel. That means your apples to apples weight would be 44 ounces. It should work just fine.

Later - Bob

Online Crist Rigotti

  • 23 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 3862
  • Electric - The future of Old Time Stunt
Re: My Porky Force!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 06:43:31 AM »
Holy Smoke! Oooops, I guess that’s not appropriate language around here! OK.

Yikes Crist! I just got all my e stuff mounted on my P Force and it’s an anchor!
 49 ozs.

So how did you do 38 ozs. Crist? Mine started out at abt. 40 oz. with an FP .40.

I’m equipped with an E Flite Power 15, a Gen Ace 4S 2500mah and a CC ICE 50.

First I’m noticing that your 4S 2200 battery is way smaller than my 4S 2500. Smaller, it fits on the nose of your Force like a plastic tank. Mine is halfway up the wing!

OK, for comparison, my E Flite power 15 is within a gram of your Scorpion. My Gen Ace battery is 300 grams. (10.6 ozs.) Your Gadex is 235 grams (8 ¼ ozs.) I’m using a CC ICE 50.  Overkill yes, but not a major weight differential between us. So far that gives you an equipment weight advantage of 2 ¼ ozs. That leaves you with an overall weight advantage 8.75 ozs. Do you think you removed that much by putting holes in the tail? I wouldn’t think so. Ennyway, if you did, wouldn’t that leave a very nose heavy plane. Mine now has roughly 18 ozs. of power equip. in the nose as opposed to the original FP at about 12 ozs. Engine, muffler, spinner and tank.

So where did I go wrong? Am I over powered? I AM overwhelmed!

And Oh yea…Where did you get the Gadex 4S 2200? All I have found is 3S’s.

Ward



Ward,
Maybe the weight gain is from the difference of your PF ARF and mine.  Maybe I got a light one. I did lighten the fin, stab, elevators, and the fuselage aft of the CG.  I used a CF pushrod too.  It all adds up.

I think the power should be fine.

Here is a link to Gadget World where I got my batteries.  The actual weight was 215g if I remember right.  

http://www.gadgetworldexports.com/index_product_view.php?did=79702&didpath=/79173/79702&page=1&imgid=453341

Here is a post form Alan Hahn when he converted his PF to electric taken from my thread on the electric PF:

   Re: Electric Primary Force
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2008, 09:37:49 PM » Quote  

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crist,
I just converted my PF to electric, just added a front plate to mount the Scorpion 3020 so the rest is stock PF Arf---with a little added soaked-in oil from the year as a glow setup. I am using same setup as in Nobler (just a transplant), so we will see how it all performs. All up weight is 44oz, basically the same as the Nobler, so I'm pretty impressed that you brought yours in at 38.5 oz. Amazing that it would be possible to find about 6 oz in balsa.




See Ward, you're not the only one that is impressed with my building skills.   :)
 
 
« Last Edit: August 25, 2011, 12:49:18 PM by Crist Rigotti »
Crist
AMA 482497
Waxahachie, TX
Electric - The Future of Old Time Stunt

Offline Ward Van Duzer

  • 2015
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1284
Re: My Porky Force!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 07:33:05 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement guys, although we're still going to be a little porky! I think I heard Georges Nobler was 51 ozs.!

And thanks for the link Crist. That'll help...


Ward-O
I hate spelling errors, you mess up 2 letters and you are urined!

Don't hesitate to ask dumb questions.
They are easier to handle than dumb mistakes!  Ward-O AMA 6022


Advertise Here
Tags:
 


Advertise Here