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Electric Stunt => Gettin all AMP'ed up! => Topic started by: Mark Scarborough on March 25, 2014, 09:42:06 PM
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Well, perhaps if I post pictures so that Wayne can badger me,, I will actually get something done on it,,
This is my new build for this year,, it is an Impact ( Paul Walker) with some slight style changes. All the relevant numbers are the same, basically changed the vertical, tips, canopy, and some tweak on the fuse shape,,
for those who may be faint of heart,, she has no clothes on yet :)
and is only held together with masking tape,,still a bunch to do before I joiin the wing permenantly,
with the new grandbaby coming, and a few minor things there, I have been stalled,,
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Still looks great, even though she's "naked" <=
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Mark,
I know you've been teased about the sharpness of you LE on some of you models, but I think you may have gone overboard.
Alan
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Hey some item/things look great in the nude. I like the look of your new plane and I know you will be using the old pen knife on the leading edge. But, now did you ever finish the one that is under the bench or is hanging on the wall every body kept ragging you about? S?P
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Nice workmanship Mark,
Looking forward to seeing other photos of this model.
Charles
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Mark,
I know you've been teased about the sharpness of you LE on some of you models, but I think you may have gone overboard.
Alan
LOL,, actually there is still another leading edge strip to go on it,, I built it like Pat does,, 1/8 inch leading edge,, sheeting ,, then another 1/8 inch strip to capture the sheeting,, I threw it together because I ,, well, I just had to see what it was going to look like,, if you note, the wing is not centered in the fuse either,, ( something that Linda caught when I ased her what sshe thought,," well it would look better if the wingg was centered in the fuse !",, women,, lol)
that said,, you cant say its to sharp can you LOL
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Hey some item/things look great in the nude. I like the look of your new plane and I know you will be using the old pen knife on the leading edge. But, now did you ever finish the one that is under the bench or is hanging on the wall every body kept ragging you about? S?P
yeah thanks for bringing that up ,, again LOL
it did get finished, ,and flown,,
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Mark! I almost missed this one!!! ;D ;D ;D
I don't get to the 'lectrical section here too often, but I may have a reason now! VD~ :##
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Mark! I almost missed this one!!! ;D ;D ;D
I don't get to the 'lectrical section here too often, but I may have a reason now! VD~ :##
well I was kinda hiding it from you Wayne,, you like to bust my chops if I dont work fast enough,,
ok so 3 or 4 years isnt fast at all,,
anyway, stay lookin in,, I hope to make some progress of the visible kind soon,,
now, first things first,, I still need to hold my new grandson,, when is MY turn,, all the women are holding him,, its not fair,,
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You mean your new grandson is here? Where was the announcement or did I miss it? Congrats on the new addition to the family. Hope you have a Fancher handle ready for him.
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You mean your new grandson is here? Where was the announcement or did I miss it? Congrats on the new addition to the family. Hope you have a Fancher handle ready for him.
He is supposed to be coming by the house today,, ( ok so technically his momma is bringing him by),, I will have a little airplane talk with him,, show him my bench, and discuss CA adhesives and xacto knives ,, just so he gets the safety lecture early,, after all, he is already a week and a half old,,
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Oh.........my gosh!
Another Mark Scarborough.
Just kidding Mark. LL~
Congratulations! You are a very lucky man to be blessed with a new member of the family. And a boy at that!
I'll bet the first word he utters is "Avaiojet." LL~ LL~ LL~
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I'll bet the first word he utters is "Avaiojet." LL~ LL~ LL~
That is just weird.
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I know you've been a bit preoccupied recently Mark, but have you checked your snail mail box lately? D>K
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That is just weird.
Sadly, it's way beyond that Paul. OMG.
By the way, congratulations Mark to you and your family. y1
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Wayne,,
I did,, dude,, your the man,, thanks,, I owe ya one,,
sorry I have been meaning to draft a note,, seems yeah, I have been busy with other things,, thanks again,,
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No problemo Mark, my pleasure. I hope it offers a bit of inspiration for a future project and that you can find some use for it. We can just consider it my small contribution to slowing down the growth of E-power. ;D
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No problemo Mark, my pleasure. I hope it offers a bit of inspiration for a future project and that you can find some use for it. We can just consider it my small contribution to slowing down the growth of E-power. ;D
damnit,, I have been duped into your nefarious plot,,
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Just think about it. When the batteries are all flat and you want to go flying, you can fall back on the old IC powered plane, that is if the starting battery is not flat also. I remember using flashlight batteries one year to start my old McCoy Redhead. Two people on the batteries and leads. Myself cranking the engine.
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Possibly the very first glo starting battery was the Eveready #6 dry cell.--carbon/zinc at 1.5 volts when new. (that was long before nicds or even alkaline).
F.C.
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Mark,
Looks nice, any updated pictures of your progress??
Tim
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no,, I have been babysitting the new grandson for the last two days,, He goes home today, so I will be back at it tonight,, well,, assuming I have any energy left,, Jackson doesnt move around alot, ( onlly 10 days old) but he sure likes to be paid attention to,,
or is that,, I like to pay attention to him,,
regardless, back at it ,, mounting controls in the wing now,,
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It is a grandfathers responsibility to spoil his grandchildren in everyway he can.
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damnit,, I have been duped into your nefarious plot,,
Um, heh-heh. That wasn't really my intention Mark, but it does give me an idea... VD~ S?P ;D
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Looks awesome buddy...I'm still out here lurking around these forums.
Rob
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WELL it seems I am in need of an airplane to fly locally,, for some reason my Electrajet has made itself non airworthy,, perhaps that slight altercation with terra asphalt in Salem?
anyway, my full fuse Impact is on temporary hold while I throw a profile together,, now,, this profile will be an ,,
wait for it
Impact profile,,
yeah real imaginative right,,
anyway, I started last weekend,, I now have the wing in carbon veil( my first time working with it),, the Stab and elevator is made,,
fuse parts are getting lazered as we speak,,
so i will update if anyone is interested,,
My plan is to have it airworthy within two weeks,, and it will be all painted,,
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OF COURSE I'll bite, let's see what'cha got Mark. y1
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no pictures tonight,, but heres a snapshot of the parts for the fuse, and the fuse layout
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Very nice Mark!
Curious, what are you going to use for 'filler' in the fuselage skeleton? From what I can discern, the laser-cut parts form the outer perimeter, and I assume will be 'skinned'. I seem to recall Dirty Dan or perhaps Howard making mention of spyder foam in a post from years gone by, is that your plan as well?
r/
Dave
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actually Pat Johnston turned me on to sheets of white foam that are 1/2 inch thick available from Home Depot,, that will be the filler.
In the past I have used just 1/8 ribs to form that substructure,, but this will be better,,
oh,, and he is laser cutting the foam for the filler as well,,
thanks for the comments
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Geez, Mark, aren't you done yet? Oh wait, I forgot, I have no room to talk.
Looks like it's coming along.
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well I got parts tonight for the fuse,, Pat did a masterfull job with balsa selection and cutting,
now tomorrow I can start building the fuse in earnest,,
there are 6 parts to the fuse perimeter,, actually 12,, two layers of 1/4 inch, it cuts much cleaner than 1/2 balsa does,
it all looks like it will layout well,, so hopefully if things go well I can start doing some gluing tomorrow night,,
the wing is in CF Veil and doped,, flaps are shaped and ready for dope and tissue,, elevator and stab same,,
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I've never seen a Messerschmitt that looks like this.
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yeah its from the clandestine skunk works in Markenstadt,, just across the border from Poland,, it was for really skinny pilots,, but since the germans were eating so well towards the end of the war, they decided it wasnt worth pursuing,,
smart alec,, sheesh
the Mess is done and a mess,, its hanging on the ceiling for all time
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yeah its from the clandestine skunk works in Markenstadt,, just across the border from Poland,, it was for really skinny pilots,, but since the germans were eating so well towards the end of the war, they decided it wasnt worth pursuing,,
LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
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a few more update pictures,,
got the fuse parts glued together,, inspected the battery box parts,, seems the CAD guy made a miscalculation in his layout,, probably in a hurry to get files off to the cutter,, so I will beat him over the head tonight with a dead battery,, and figure out how best to remedy his oversite,,
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So, is the full fuse version done and that's why you're working on the profile?
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Everything is looking good, Mark! But let's not have another BF-109 or Me-109 or whatever it was! ;D
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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Randy,
I am working on a profile because I can crank it out in short order,, then finish the full fuse version where I can take my time,, the profile is more local field friendly,,and practice able,, I expect to have this done in a couple weeks,, whereas the full fuse version will take more time to finish properly,, plus,, I stuffed my profile Ejet in Salem,,
Bill, are you refering to the long term build of the bf 109,or the fact that it has suffered structural failure after a few dozen flights,, neither should be a problem on this one,,
I hope?
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Hey, I got a whole 4 flights on the Low Rider before it met with a, ah, engineering failure. Bad planning on my part but hey, sh@t happens.
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Man...I need to get myself over to your house Mark and catch up on all the new projects!!!
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Rob,, YES,,, you do,, its been awhile,,
ok so heres the latest shots,, got some work done on the nose,,
the battery box is 1/8 lite ply, it has tabs from the fuse that key into the upper and lower sections,, which will tie into the leading edge of the wing.
the sides key into the upper and lower, and the firewall is keyed into all four light ply parts,, the firewall is 4 layers of 1/16 ply epoxied together,,
its coming along slowly,, the wing is slid in place for fitment and is covered in dope and carbon veil,,
I keep having trick ideas for enclosing the electonics,, but keep fighting the urge and trying to keep it simple,, I may end up just strapping them onto the fuse keel below the battery box,, though the thought of enclosing them in a cowling is tempting,,
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I keep having trick ideas for enclosing the electonics,, but keep fighting the urge and trying to keep it simple.
Just remember: if it works it's f***ing beautiful!!!.
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well I know it will work Tim,, but, it would be nice if it was clean enough to serve as a backup for PA if needed,, I know I flew my Ejet profile better than the Avenger, but the appearance points for the Avenger made the difference,,
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I keep having trick ideas for enclosing the electonics,, but keep fighting the urge and trying to keep it simple,,
Don't fight the urge Mark. The ugly electrical bits hanging all over significantly take away from the appearance of many otherwise good looking models. Visible velcro straps are about as cool as velcro tennies. Build something you'll be happy with, and also be proud to show up at the field with. y1
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Thanks WW
It will be clean,,
I hope it will be attractive,, but I have a tendancy to go overboard and then not be brave
Thats one of the reasons My Electra Jet was good,, I flew it with more confidence,, so thats my ultimate goal with this,
I need something to fly NOW,, I hope to be flying it in a couple weeks,, ( less if I have my way)
THanks for checkin in,, keep me in line and if ya see something ugly call me on it,,
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Yea, and now you've got me thinking about an electricated profile. Darn, you!
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Not to mess up your thread here Mark, but for the electric fanatics here's something new. It was todays big news at work...
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/06/19/harley-davidson-project-livewire-electric-motorcycle-vi/?a_dgi=aolshare_email
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I keep having trick ideas for enclosing the electonics,, but keep fighting the urge and trying to keep it simple,, I may end up just strapping them onto the fuse keel below the battery box,, though the thought of enclosing them in a cowling is tempting,,
Cut a slot right underneath the battery box, and center the ESC and timer in the fuse, stuck to the box. There should be room to dress the wires out of the way even if you just leave it hanging in the breeze, and it should be easy to cowl in if you want it prettier.
Then for rev 2, make the battery box taller with a shelf in the bottom: battery in the top compartment, the rest of the 'lectronics in the bottom (after, of course, insuring adequate airflow).
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that is kinda what the plan is,, there is actually an air inlet where the scoop would normally be,, its hollow back under the battery box,, I am going to penetrate the ply doublers and the ESC will go into that opening with air from the scoop blowing over it,,
whether or not I cowl it in,, well we will see how it shakes out,, i have a couple idears,,
thanks for the comments guys
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Not to mess up your thread here Mark but here's something new, it was todays big news at work...
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/06/19/harley-davidson-project-livewire-electric-motorcycle-vi/?a_dgi=aolshare_email
Wayne,, ok two problems here, ,your a die hard glow guy,, so why would you promote and electric harley,,
second,, how on earth will the get the electric version to leak oil? it cant be a Harley without an oil puddle
LOL
Randy,, yes,, electric Ringmaster delux,, its a natural
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Wayne,, ok two problems here, ,your a die hard glow guy,, so why would you promote and electric harley,,
second,, how on earth will the get the electric version to leak oil? it cant be a Harley without an oil puddle
LOL
You're right Mark, I'm not too into it, but it was quite a "shock" to learn of the project. :##
Being mostly a sportbike guy over the years I do have to say the thing at least looks pretty cool. y1
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Unless they come up with one that will go more than 50 miles on a charge, it's not going to sell well.
and Mark, nope. I have a whole 'nother idea. (PE**)
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well its in the paint shop today,, started yesterday and created a bit of a problem for myself,, so Had to take a step back,, but thats resolved and its got its second color on now,, it should be in clear tonight,, lord willing and the creek dont rise,, though its hard to go back to the shop when the 5 month old grandson is visiting us today,,
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Well its in clear,, 12 hours from first color to last coat of clear,, masking is all clean,, no blow outs,,
clear went on pretty decent,, I will likely do some cutting and polishing,, though likely minimal,,
I have 5 days to get it rigged and test flown if I want to go to the Raider Roundup,,hmm might be close,,
anyhow,, here it is,,
DBC base coat colors,,
2042 clear ( mixed 4 - 1 - 1.75 instead of 4-1-1)
Color sprayed with my Iwata detail gun
Clear with my Sata minijet,,
Power will be Eflight 32,, Castle ESC and Hubin timer,,
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Aspect ratio?
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Well its in clear,, 12 hours from first color to last coat of clear,, masking is all clean,, no blow outs,,
clear went on pretty decent,, I will likely do some cutting and polishing,, though likely minimal,,
I have 5 days to get it rigged and test flown if I want to go to the Raider Roundup,,hmm might be close,,
anyhow,, here it is,,
DBC base coat colors,,
2042 clear ( mixed 4 - 1 - 1.75 instead of 4-1-1)
Color sprayed with my Iwata detail gun
Clear with my Sata minijet,,
Power will be Eflight 32,, Castle ESC and Hubin timer,,
Very cool! I can tell your a pro painter.
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Mark,
WOW! You have been busy.
Really nice scheme and the color combination is great.
Looks as smooth as silk.
Can't wait to see photos of the model when it is completed.
Thanks for posting that info on materials, auto paint is great stuff.
Outstanding!
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It's largely an Impact profile with a few fillips. I really like it. Mark does great work, as always. I look forward to seeing it this weekend at the roundup. I was going to pull out my Ring to fly in profile, but may have to reconsider.
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Wow, that looks awesome! Nice job. Hope it flies great!
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thanks for the comments guys,, now its on to hinging and stuff,,
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So, is it hinged yet?
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no,,,,
hey do they have practice circles at Auburn,, IF I get it done,, I will need to fly it,, and I think I am coming,, not sure if it will be ready,, wanna help me finish it up at the field Randy?
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Great. Yes, there is a practice circle. The carrier guys will use it Saturday, but they typically don't stay all day.
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Looks great Mark! What's up your sleeve with the abbreviated rear fuse?
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Looks great Mark! What's up your sleeve with the abbreviated rear fuse?
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If I understand yoru question,, its where the ground adjustable rudder affixes,, making a "scale" rudder that goes top to bottom is a LOT of area,, and would make minute adjustments challanging,,
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Got it, the profile outline will appear "complete" once the lower rudder is affixed.
Paint looks awesome Mark, but it's really gonna stand out over the German countryside. VD~ :##
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Simply beautiful Mark! Should look great in the air!
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Love the artistic colors & trim. Hope it flies as well as it looks!
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Mark,
I'll be there Saturday trying to get my own tub trimmed. I'd be glad to help you get yours in shape. I'm going to try to be there early on Saturday to get a flight or two in before the carrier guys show up. Should be fun. Hope to see you.
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Mark,
I'll be there Saturday trying to get my own tub trimmed. I'd be glad to help you get yours in shape. I'm going to try to be there early on Saturday to get a flight or two in before the carrier guys show up. Should be fun. Hope to see you.
how early,, I see OT doesnt start till 10,, since this is my profile,, it would be advantagous to actually get some early flights in,, in faint hopes of getting it close enough to fly profile with later in the afternoon,, otherwise I am just flying classic and Adv,,with the Avenger,,
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Mark,
You have a character line on both sides of the fuselage. I'm thinking hidden pushrod, but I'm probably wrong.
Is that part of the design? Purpose?
If it's just looks, I can understand that.
The model looks really nice.
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Its a color line,, my feeling is to break up the massive visual side area,, and it actually is a continuation of the checkerboard from the wings,, one of the advantages of a profile is having everything out in the breeze so you can adjust and tweak easier,, since this is my testbed/practice airplane,, I plan on doing lots of trim experiments,, having a hidden pushrod would defeat the purpose,,
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closer now,, need to fab landing gear,, pushrod, and mount electronics,, and I have ,, hmmm one night left,, it will be close,,
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The Carrier guys have to tote the deck up from Puyallup or somewhere Saturday morning, so you should have some time. Better yet, come on Friday.
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Howard,
He has to finish it first. ;D
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its a five hour drive minimum,, add in stops for the 5 month old,, and who knows,, I am coming friday, but dont know for sure what time,,
at least I have a shot on saturday,, if not friday,,
now, off to make gear,,
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See you Saturday.
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ready and loaded,,, heading west now,, see ya all tomorrow
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Have a great weekend guys, and don't forget some pics!
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well here is a long overdue update,, and pictures,,
its ready for its almost last sanding,, or maybe next to last,, anyway,,
I am on target to be close to 67 ready to fly,, assuming somebody doesnt get gready with the clear,, y1 n1
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pictures before prime
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in prime
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It's grey.
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for now,, it will soon turn back into a pinto patchwork pattern,,
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What is that for primer Mark? Just wondering, it looks really dark.
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Its Omni MP181, I will see how it sands,, but I dont think it has very good build properties,, I couldnt find any DZ3 and I had this,, man it was settleed out, it took a LONG while to get it recombined again,, It sprays about like the NAPA primer Sparky uses,, unlike DZ3 which has much more body,,
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well its painted,, it aint perfect, but I am not ashamed of it either,,
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a few more
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and a few last ones
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Mark, that looks MEAN!
Can you tell us about the gear you're using to do the airbrush work?
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Mark, that is awe some. Love that lace work.
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Can I call it the Green Weenie?
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Randy,,
you can call it anything you want to,, especially if its still around when I move up and beat you at a contest LOL,, just whatever you do dont call it sawdust, and with my history,, I wont be calling it "impact",, cause I have had enough impacts,,
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Mark, that looks MEAN!
Can you tell us about the gear you're using to do the airbrush work?
I use an Iwata airbrush,, apply the big areas of color with an Iwata detail gun ( HVLP) and spray my clear with a SATA Minijet,,
I cant recall the model numbers off the top of myhead,,
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Looks great Mark! y1