Well damn, had a bit of a "mishap" with my Vector this weekend and lawn darted that baby like no other. Shoot man, I was just starting to get her trimmed a bit better and getting the hang of it, or so I thought anyway. Luckily my wife had the camera rolling....

First, here is a flight with a small camera attached to the wing facing towards the pilot, thought this was pretty cool.


and then there's this one; the incident;

John,
What was that rattle near the end of the flight. Motor didn't sound too good after either. But I'm sure that didn't matter after the last flight. Well back to the drawing board and more RR's   

Hate that!
If I could offer a suggestion perhaps? It appears that you might have been trying to do the outsides perpendicular to the wind? at leawst based on where you did the wingover, and loops. Remember to keep your manuevers on the downwind side of the circle, it makes a HUGE difference in performance and ability to fly the manuevers.
Get something new built, and get back on the horse,, Trust me, I have stuffed a lot of airplanes! it gets better

Thanks for sharing - I hate it big time but wow!!   By the way pick up all of the peices. I have repaired worse.  it gets heavy but gets you flying in a hurry.  Ugly drag makes it fly better.
             

Ps Store the battery in a safe place - it could still chetch on fire.

Yeah it sure sucked but unfortunately that baby went out with the trash this morning. I couldn't have repaired it anyway, just not that skilled(I don't think some of you guys realize just how skilled you are!). The battery is sitting on concrete and I plan to take it to a recycle center today or tomorrow. Thanks for the tips!

John,
What was that rattle near the end of the flight. Motor didn't sound too good after either. But I'm sure that didn't matter after the last flight. Well back to the drawing board and more RR's   

Hi Darrell,

The noise in the first video(different flight) was from a prop strike where I smacked the ground just enough to break the tip off of the prop. The Fire Dept was across the street doing drills or something and while I was flying they kept honking a VERY loud horn, on the second honk it scared me and I turned away just for a second which was just long enough to hit the ground! If you watch closely you can see me turn away right before I hit the ground and then it starts vibrating/shaking until the time ran out. Honestly I thought the ESC would shut it down but it didn't. Keep in mind this is the first video I'm talking about, the second one I just ran that baby smack into the ground!

Too bad John!!! I would deactivate that battery (drain it down to zero volts SLOWLY) and recycle it at a suitable electronics recycling center.

Get out your building board and here is a set of plans for a Ringmaster that you can convert to electric. Just take the file to a copy shop and have them printed it at 100%.

John

Hi John,

Taking the battery to a center asap. Wow John, thank you for the Ringmaster plans! Very nice sir. I do have an SV-11 on the way but would also like to have a Ringmaster, gotta join the club sooner or later! Thank you.

Hate that!
If I could offer a suggestion perhaps? It appears that you might have been trying to do the outsides perpendicular to the wind? at leawst based on where you did the wingover, and loops. Remember to keep your manuevers on the downwind side of the circle, it makes a HUGE difference in performance and ability to fly the manuevers.
Get something new built, and get back on the horse,, Trust me, I have stuffed a lot of airplanes! it gets better

Hi Mark,

Your suggestion is taken, thank you! I thought I read somewhere to have your planes nose into the wind for them but now I see that you're correct and I probably should've done them in the same spot as I did the wing over and regular loops. Could this have been my major mistake? Oh well, if so then I've learned a darn important lesson that's for sure! Oh believe me, I'm not discouraged-already have an SV-11 on the way baby! Thanks for the help Mark.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that sucks man !!!  been there done that a few times - still not good.

get another one up and ready to go - then get back in the ar 

Hey Wynn,

Figured you'd catch what I did sooner or later, thanks so much for your help with the Vector-much appreciated. Just sorry that I wadded her up, but, my new plane should be here this week and this time I got an ARF so should be back in the air sooner this time. I'm sure I'll be emailing you for some help again. Talk soon my friend!!


John

PS-Sorry about all the replies but I'm one of those people that just has to answer everyone, to me it's rude not too! I know, I'm nutty..

Ahw John that is TOUGH!  Looks like you had it flying well too.  RATZ! 

In the beginner pattern you can enter the outsides from the top flying at the ground first, or you can go inverted and fly them from inverted. I think they left this so that beginners would maybe feel more comfortable not having to fly inverted. However, In my HUMBLE opinion, Its better to fly them from inverted, especially if you plan on moving up to intermediate some time. Learning to fly inverted is important as it gets you more comfortable with recovering from unusual attitudes,, plus its the way you do it for intermediate and up.
Remember the wind is your friend,, it helps maintain line tension while your doing tricks,, the exception would be overheads and the wingover. The wingover is entered upwind, flown parallel with the wind, the overheads are entered upwind and flown,, well, overhead,, lol

Well it would appear that Dufus(me) has been doing it all wrong then. I have been doing the wing overs starting down wind and flying into the wind, that's backwards isn't it? Also have been starting my outside loops from the top and heading into the wind at the beginning of the loop, wrong again correct? Darn. Though I'm just screwing around here you can see that I've obviously been doing both wing overs and outside loops incorrectly, wind is blowing from right side of the screen to left in the video;

Hi John  When I was learning the beginners pattern I started the outsides from the top it is better to start them from the inverted way. But starting from the top helps ready you for the outside squares and square eights in the full pattern. In beginners you only do two laps inverted between your insides and outsides.

The easiest way to get used to outside loops will probably be by doing a "Lazy 8" and when you are coming over the top on the back side, just keep going into the full outside loops.  It is an abbreviated manner similar to what can you do in OTS

Big Bear