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Electric Stunt => Gettin all AMP'ed up! => Topic started by: Douglas Ames on August 27, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
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Can anyone draw out a typical schematic of a motor, ESC, timer and battery setup? Lots of talk about diagrams, connections and components but what's going on inside these gizmos?
What's the third wire for on the motor? ...for speed control? ...or is the ESC also an inverter? (AC motor?) I notice that the ESC has several large capacitors. Are these for starting the motor, preventing excess current draw?
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OK Douglas,
Here is a simplified version. ;D
The brushless motors have three sets of windings and the ESC sends timed current through windings so that the motor rotates ALL three wires must be attached to the ESC (or visa versa). I'm not that familiar with the schematics of ESCs so I'm sure some one will chime in but I believe that the capacitors are dampening spikes generated between the battery and the ESC. I do know that if battery to ESC wires are excessively long (more than 12 inches or so) that additional capacitors are required.
The ESC receives a stream of square waves from the timer (or receiver in the case of RC) which can be varied in width. The ESC interprets the width of the waves and translates the width into appropriate current pulses to the motor and thus controls the motor speed.
Maybe others can explain it better. y1
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Douglas, were you looking for a schematic of each part, or just the setup with the blocks labeled? There's setups shown out on the web.
As for as the individual pieces:
The motor is a three-phase AC machine. They're called "DC brushless motors" because the windings are arranged so that the "AC" that they run off of is flat-topped instead of sinusoidal -- this makes it easy to make an ESC that runs off of DC, and is still efficient at full power. Each wire from the motor goes to a winding (or a pair of windings, depending on whether the motor is a Y or a delta configuration), they all carry equal current, which is why they're all the same size.
The ESC is a brushless DC motor driver (inverter) that runs off of the battery with commands from the timer. It's basically three switching amplifiers, with a pair of FET switches doing the grunt work (this is why when you look at the circuit board of an ESC you'll usually see six packages all grouped together at some point on the board). Do web searches on "brushless DC drive schematic" and you'll find something representative.
The ESC is designed to connect to the servo channel of a receiver, so it wants to see square, positive going pulses for a command. The industry standard is for a 1 millisecond pulse to mean idle, and a 2ms pulse to mean full throttle; the pulses should occur at a frame rate of 50 to 100Hz.
The battery is just a battery.
To wire them, the two wires from the battery go to the pair of heavy-duty wires on the ESC. The three wires from the motor go to the three heavy wires on the ESC. The timer (or receiver) plugs into the plug on the end of the three light weight wires from the ESC.
I don't know if this answers your question at all, but I hope it helps one way or another.
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Thanks! You've explained alot. I thought the ESC was some type of Inverter.
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Thanks! You've explained alot. I thought the ESC was some type of Inverter.
I should note that by current technical parlance an ESC isn't an inverter, because it doesn't generate power at a higher voltage than its input. The best name for them is probably least informative: they're motor drivers. It probably helps to point out that they do it with gizmos called "switching amplifiers", which is what turns the DC coming from the battery into the AC that actually makes the prop go 'round.
But I think it matches what you think of as an inverter.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:3-phase_inverter_cjc.png :)
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Douglas - one hint for you, if you are familiar with calssic PWM controlled DC motors with permanent magnets, then those 3 wires which you see between ESC and motor, are equivalent of those 3 wires running from commutator to winding of that old DC motor, simply commutator moved from motor to ESC, everything else is exacly the same as was on those old motors :) ... that is why we call them brush less DC motors
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I should note that by current technical parlance an ESC isn't an inverter, because it doesn't generate power at a higher voltage than its input. The best name for them is probably least informative: they're motor drivers.
I thought an inverter was simply a DC to AC conversion, not necessarily at a higher voltage.
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Douglas - one hint for you, if you are familiar with calssic PWM controlled DC motors with permanent magnets, then those 3 wires which you see between ESC and motor, are equivalent of those 3 wires running from commutator to winding of that old DC motor, simply commutator moved from motor to ESC, everything else is exacly the same as was on those old motors :) ... that is why we call them brush less DC motors
The light bulb came on when I read this. Thanks.
I was taught electronics in Airframe & Powerplant school over 30 yrs. ago but never got a chance to practice it, other than changing out the AC motors in my furnance or brushes in my cars alternator.
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I thought an inverter was simply a DC to AC conversion, not necessarily at a higher voltage.
I'm not going to argue that point very vigorously (i.e., you may be right). But I do know that in chip data sheets, application notes, and motion control components catalogs, the circuit that does what our ESCs do is called a "brushless motor drive".
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Everything you wanted to know about Electronic Speed Controllers...... well almost
http://www.math.niu.edu/~behr/RC/speed-ctl.html (http://www.math.niu.edu/~behr/RC/speed-ctl.html)
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It's kinda old, and from this circuit designer's perspective, definitely written by a mathematician.