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Electric Stunt => Gettin all AMP'ed up! => Topic started by: Crist Rigotti on March 29, 2009, 09:07:31 PM
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We lost this important thread in "The Crash". So lets start over and list your set ups. Like airplane, wing area, flying weight, motor, battery, timer, prop, line length (eye to eye), flight time, rpm, lap speed, and mah used. In the "Subject" line list the airplane name, then list your set up in the main area.
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Barnstormer
470 sq-in
32 ounces
Scorpion 3014-22
Rhino 4S 1550mah
Castle Phoenix 35A
JMP-2
APC-E 11x5.5
52 feet
4:40
9200 rpm
4.9 sec
900mah
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Primary Force
500 sq-in
38 1/2 oz
Scorpion 3020-16
Gadex 4S 2200mah
Castle Phoenix 35A
JMP-2
APC-E 13x4 cut down and repitched to a 12x5
58 feet
5:45
9500rpm
5.2 sec
1850mah
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Arf Nobler
Wing area=?
Flying Weight=44oz
Scorpion 3020-16 (kV=880rpm/volt--hand-wound) (5.4oz)
FMA 4s2100 18C Lipo (7.3oz)
Castle Creation Phoenix 35A ESC
JMP-2 timer
APC TE 12-6 stock
60 foot eyelet-to eyelet lines
Flight time 300 s (does not include 20 wait after arming the timer)
7950 rpm
lap speed 5.0-5.1s
1560-1600 mAHr put back in according to charger
Whew!
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Brodak Electric Super Clown
Wing area=355 sq in
Flying Weight=28 oz
Scorpion 3020-12 (kV=1088rpm/volt--stock) (5.4oz)
FMA 3s2100 18C Lipo (5.5oz)
Castle Creation Phoenix 35A ESC
JMP-2 timer
APC TE 10-7 stock
58 foot 0.012" eyelet-to eyelet lines
Flight time 300 s (does not include 20 wait after arm the timer)
8500 rpm
lap speed 4.8s
~1560-1600 mAHr put back in according to charger
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Flying weight=low to mid 50's
atlas 2921-08 =I believe about 1100 KV
polyquest or trueRC 4s 4000mah
Pheonix 45
Will Hubin timer
APC 12x6E cut to 11.5(for clearance)
61' eye to eye
Lap 5.1-5.2
2300 back in pack
9000 rpm Set RPM Mode
Time=5min 30sec
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Flying weight=60-62 oz(I need a better scale)
Scorpion 3026-10 980 KV
Phoenix 45
Will Hubin Timer
APC 12x6E
64' eye to eye
9300 rpm Set RPM mode
Polyquest or true RC 4s 4000 or FlightMax 4s 4400
Time=5min 30 sec
Back in pack=unknown
This plane is still not flown these are my starting points
Flying weight=64oz
Scorpion SII-3026-890 V2 Brushless Motor(now)
Phoenix 45
Will Hubin Timer
APC12x6EP
65' eye to eye
9300 rpm Set RPM mode
Polyquest RC 4s 4250 or FlightMax 4s 4400
Time=5min 33 sec
Back in pack=2800mah
This is what I am flying with as of 7/23/09
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Flying weight=low to mid 50's
Scorpion 3020-14 944 KV
polyquest or trueRC 4s 4000mah
Phoenix 45
Will Hubin timer
APC 12x6E
61' eye to eye
Lap 5.1-5.2
2300 back in pack
9000 rpm Set RPM Mode
Time=5min 30sec
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Flying weight 33oz
wing area 402 sq inches
Welgard GH2814-06 1400kv
GraysonPower 4000mAh 11.1V 15C
Phoenix 35
ztron timer
apc 9x6e
60' eye to eye .012
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Flying weight 32 oz
Wing area 355 sq in
stock Brodak motor
stock Brodak battery
Phoenix 35
ztron timer
apc 9x4.5e
60' eye to eye .012
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Impact XLS
750 in^2
69 ounces
Plettenburg 30-12
Thunder power 5S2P4200 brick pack
Kim Doherty Processor
Shultzie 18.46 F2B ESC
Yatchenko knock off Carbon prop 13.6" * ~7" (some parts of the prop are at more than 7, some less than 7)
Flying Speed ~ 5.3 to 5.4 sec/lap
RPM: ~8650
Line length 70 feet.
Uses ~ 3000 mah per flight
Flight time 6:13.
Now flies much better than it flew at the 2007 Team Trials.
It would be a definite contender at any contest. Now if only the wing would have come off, it would have gone to France! Ugh... :(
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Brodak Oriental ARF
Area 550 sq in
Weight 47 oz
Motor Brodak SC 1500Kv Out-runner
Battery Brodak 15C 3S 4000
2500 mAH used on average
Castle Phoenix 35 ESC
Will Hublin FM-2 Timer
Prop APC 10 x 5 "E"
Rpm 10,920
Lap time 5.15-5.2
Line Length 63' eye to eye
flight time 5:15
This was the Set-up flown @ FCM Last year.
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Brodak Oriental ARF
Area 550 sq in
Weight 49 oz
Motor Brodak SC 1500Kv Out-runner
Battery Brodak 15C 3S 4000
2700 mAH used on average
ESC Kontronik 3SL40-6-18
Timer JMP-2
Prop APC 10 x 5 "E"
Rpm 11,100
Lap time 5.15-5.2
Line Length 63' eye to eye
flight time 5:25
This was the Set-up flown @ Brodak Last year.
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Brodak Oriental ARF
Area 550 sq in
Weight 50 oz
Motor Rim-Fire 35-36-1200
Battery Maxx-Amps 20C 4S 3000
1750 mAH used on average
Castle Phoenix 60 ESC
JMP-2 timer
Prop APC 10 x 5 "E"
Rpm 11,050
Lap time 5.15-5.2
Line Length 63' eye to eye
flight time 5:30
This was a test for my Uncle Dennis' Swinger.
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Brodak Oriental ARF
Area 550 sq in
Weight 48 oz
Motor Rim-Fire 35-30-1250
Battery Maxx Amps 20C 4S 3000
1750 mAH used on average
Castle Phoenix 60 ESC
JMP-2 Timer
Prop APC 10 x 5 "E"
Rpm 10,980
Lap time 5.15-5.2
Line Length 63' eye to eye
flight time 5:30
This was a test for a lighter system for the Swinger and some other Classic 35 sized models we had in mind.
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Brodak Vector 40 ARF
Area 536 sq in
Weight 48 oz
Motor Brodak SC 1500Kv Out-runner
Battery Brodak 15C 3S 4000
2400 mAH used on average
Castle Phoenix 35 ESC
Will Hublin FM-2 Timer
Prop APC 10 x 5 "E"
Rpm 10,920
Lap time 5.15-5.2
Line Length 63' eye to eye
flight time 5:15
This was the Set-up flown @ FCM Last year.
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Big Art's EP Yo-Yo OTS
Area 425 sq in ??
Weight 48 oz
Motor Astro Cobalt 15G (brushed) :o
Battery 14 cell KR700 NiCad pack
ESC Toggle switch
Timer (see above)
Prop APC 10 x 8 Sport
Rpm All it had LL~
Lap time 5.0 - 5.2
Line Length 60' eye to eye
flight time 3:30 useable, 4:30 to touchdown.
This was the set-up flown @ the 1990 Vincennes NATS unofficially.
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Excitation - 600" sq
weight 59oz
Motor AXI 2826-10 front mounted
prop APC E 12x6 Pusher
RPM 9000
battery Tenegy 4S1P 3850 mah
Average use 2650 mahs
ESC CC 45 - fixed RPM mode
Timer ZTron II
Flt time 5 min: 20 sec
lines 68' C to C
Lap time 5.2 sec
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Scratch built Midwest Panther
52" span, 475 sq in, 47 oz
E-Flite Power 46 motor -- motor changed to Rimfire 35-48-1000 6/20/09
Thunder Power TP2250-4sp30 pack (4S2P)@14.5V nominal
CC Phoenix 45 ESC med gain governor mode -- changed to RPM mode @9500 RPM
Ztron timer set for 100% output
Currently APC 11-7 2 blade prop -- changed to 11-5.5 APC with new motor
65', .015 7 strand lines, 5.2 sec laps
Using about 1750 mAh in 5 minutes
Latest mods as of 9/20/09
Turnigy C3548 800 kV motor
APC 12-6 prop
Zetron timer with the following settings: Start speed and end speed set to 50% (25 on the dipswitch binary sum)
CC Phx 45 ESC set to SET RPM mode at 8500 RPM for all three bands
63 ft x .015 lines.
Zippy 2650 mAh batteries for 6 min flight (2050 mAh used)
Latest changes as of 8/20/10
Turnigy C3548-1100 kV motor
APC 11-4.5 EP
ESC changed to High Gov at 11180, 5.4 sec laps on 64 ft lines
Hubin FM-9 timer, 5 min 55 sec run time.
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MYTHBUSTER! (original design)
63" span, 567 squares, I-Beam, 15% airfoil,
fuselage is stringered behind wing, 47" nose to tail
44 oz
Originally Rimfire 35-36-1200, switched to Turnigy SK 35-42-1000 for nose weight (1 oz heavier) and better match of kV to lower RPM required
4Sx2500 Evo-lite battery (about 8.5 oz.)
Castle Phoenix 35 in CL Set RPM mode
Will Hubin FM-4 timer with remote switch
63' (eyelet to eyelet) lines
test flown with 10x5 APC-E prop at 10,900 rpm; 5.0 sec laps, 1840 mah used
Switched to 11x5.5 APC-E prop, 9200 RPM, 5.2 sec lap time, about 1850-1950 mah (avg.).
Updated 8/18:
Now running 9000 RPM and using roughly 1700-1800 mah. Run time about 5:45 (could be shortened)
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Brodak Hellcat (profile)
53" span, 540 sq in, approx 42 oz
Motor: Astro Inrunner with Superbox gear drive (3.3 ratio)
Phoenix 60 ESC
Will Hubin FM-4 timer
Rhino 4S x 2350 pack
11 x 5.5 APC-E
63' lines (eye to eye) Approx 5.6 lap time
1840 mah over 5:45
Works very well, albeit nosier than the normal outrunner...
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Top Flight Nobler ARF - First electric flown in the North East , at the Lee MA contest - 2003
Motor AXI 28-26-10
Battery Thunder Power 2 / 3 cell 2100mamp
ESC Jeti 30 amp
Throttle control Z-Tron infra red
Prop Aero Naut carbon 10 / 6
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Cavalier - 650 Tom Morris design
Wing Area 650
RTF weight 60 ounces
Motor AXI 28-26-10
Battery 4cell/ 4200 mamp LiPo
Timer/sequencer JMP 1st to 3rd generation
ESC Phoenix 40 amp
Prop Carbon 3 blade bolly 10 / 6-8
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Desperado - 635 sq in
Weight - 53 oz
Motor - Axi 2826/10
Prop APC 12-6e
Ave battery use 2300 mah
ESC Phoenix 45
Timer Ztron 2
Lines 63' eyelet to eyelet
Lap time 5.2 sec
Robert Compton
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Geiseke Nobler - from plans
UltraCote covering with Tamiya enamel
Motor AXI 28-26-10
Prop various
Battery Thunder Power 4cell 4000 mamp
Timer/seq. JMP 3rd gen
ESC - Jeti
First electric to place first in a Classic event, in New England
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Twin powered bomber / fighter - imaginary
Scratch - built, based on Dave Cook "Lightning" wing , all else educated guesswork.
64" Span, approx 740 sq.in wing area including flaps
Motors 2 ea. Hacker A30 series outrunners, counter rotating
Prop APC 12/6 tractor / pusher
ESC 2 ea Jeti Spin 30 amp
Battery 4 cell / 5350 mAh Evo Lite LiPo
RTF weight 70 ounces
Timer/seq. 1 ea. JMP
First twin electric in competition on East Coast
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Resolve EP
570 sq in
51 ounces
Scorpion II 3020-890
PolyNoOne 4S2P 20C 3400mah battery
Castle Phoenix 45A ESC
JMP-2 timer
APCE 13x6.5P modified to 12.5x4P
63 feet eye to eye
5:58
9050 rpm
5.2 lap
@ 2400mah used
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My Noblarf setup:
Model: Top-Flite Nobler ARF
Wing Area: 500 sq in
Weight: 45 oz
Motor: Turnigy 35-48 900kv
Battery: Flight-Max 2200mAh
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix 35
Timer: own
Prop: APC 12 x 6 "E"
Rpm: 8400
Lap time: 4.9-5.0
Line Length: 60' eye to eye
flight time: 5:15
Battery drain: about 1700mAh
/Andreas
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e-Vector 40 ARC
Brodak Vector 40 ARC
Wing Area 536 sq in
Weight 46-47 oz (depends on spinner I am using)
Motor--Scorpion II 3020-780 (kV=780 rpm/volt)
Battery--FMA 4s2100 mAHr (18C) weight 6.9oz!
ESC --CC Phoenix 45, running in Set RPM Governor mode, 26kHz PWM rate, low motor timing
7600 rpm takeoff, 8000 rpm flying
Timer---W.Hubin for setup (flight time, rpm changes are easy), JMP-2 for "standard" pattern flying. 300s flight time
Prop---what else? APC 12-6 thin electric tractor.
Lap Time (currently) 5.1-5.2 s This and next two lines updated (but not the data from the recorder).
Line length: 61 foot eyelet to eyelet.
Battery drain <=1450 mAHr depending on wind.
Today's Pattern flight data recorder:
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wingspan: 53"
weight: 43 ounces
area: 575 sq"
motor: scorpion 3020 890
esc: phoenix 35
timer: hubin fm-2a
battery: 4s thunder power 2600 prolite v2
prop: apc 12x6e tractor
rpm: 8400
lap time: 5.3
lines: 64' .012 solids
flight time: 5:30 using about 1640 mah
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Blue Angel
608 sq in
60 oz.RTF
AXI 2826/10
TP prolite V2 4s3900mah (12.8 oz)
CC45 -High Gov. mode
Zigras V.4 field adjustable RPM
12'x6'' APC EP (Cut down to 11.8"dia)
Lines .015" x 65' C to C
4.9 to 5.1 sec Lap times
8800 to 9000 RPM Range used
2350 -2550 Mah used
Flight Time 5:40
Walt Brownell
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Wingspan 25 1/4", area 136 sq-in
Weight 10.5 oz
Motor: BP Hobbies 2212-13 Outruner, Kv=1000
ESC: BP Hobbies 20 amp helicopter, in governor mode
Timer: timer replaced by RC throttle control
Battery: Hyperion 3rd generation 3S 850 mah LiPo
Prop: APC 8x8 thin Electric
Line length 40' eye to eye
Lap time 3.7 sec at 7,500 rpm
Static power at 7,500 rpm approximately 150 watts
Flight time: 4 min to keep battery usage to 80%.
Setup will also do 4.3 sec laps on 50' line for 3 min.
The photo shows it with a slightly longer 2217 motor.
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Brodak Kit, 34" span, 236 squares
Profile fuselage 27" OAL
16 oz
NOTE: THis is the prototype for a new "10" sized system from Brodak.
> Arrowind 2210-25 kv=1560
> APC-E 7x5 Pusher prop
> Arrowind 3Sx1600 (20C) battery (123g/4.4 oz.)
> Arrowind 18A ESC (non governing
> Will Hubin FM-0c timer with "throttle up" capability
> .008 x 50' (eyelet to eyelet) lines
Currently flying approx 4.2 sec lap time (want to slow it to 4.4) and using 970 - 1000 mah in roughly 5:10, this bird flies extremely well.
For Arrowind products see: http://arrowindhobby.com/
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Vector 40
Built from Brodak kit. 47 oz
Turnigy 3548-800 motor -- now a different motor, Rimfire 3538-1000kV 14 poles
800 kV, 14 poles. (measured to be 749 kV)
Zippy 2650 4P battery
Ztron timer
Castle Creations ICE 50A controller, set rpm at 9600
Initial flights with MAS 10-7 three blade prop -- changed to 10.5-6 cut down 12-6 @ 9100 RPM
Now using 11.7-4.5 pusher, a cut down 13-4.5P
Set RPM mode, 5.2 sec laps
1900 mAh in 340 sec run
Ultracote cover and Lustrecote paint on the balsa.
No trim paint yet
63 ft lines, eye to eye
Changed motor to Turnigy 3548-1100 kV
Hubin FM-9 timer
APC 11-4.5 EP prop at 11100 rpm, high gov mode in the ESC
5.4 sec laps, 64 ft lines
2100 mAh in 5 min 55 sec run through the pattern.
John
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Vector 40
Built from Brodak kit. 47 oz
Turnigy 3548-800 motor
800 kV, 14 poles.
Zippy 2650 4P battery
Ztron timer
Castle Creations ICE 50A controller
Initial flights with MAS 10-7 three blade prop
Ultracote cover and Lustrecote paint on the balsa.
No trim paint yet
63 ft lines, eye to eye, shooting for 5.2 sec laps
John
This is the first under the cowl shot I have seen that was purpose built for E power. Tell me about your doublers etc?
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Reply with more info in Rudy's motor mount thread.
John
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I have 2 Ringmaster S-1s
One is an RSM Old Time Legal S-1 kit build. 32 oz
One is scratch built (using RSM S-1 Old Time Legal plans as a guide). 28.5 oz
42" span
383 Sq area
Scratch built has a Turnigy 3245 1000KV (This maybe a little overkill!)
Castle Creations Phoenix 45 ESC (Using Control Line set RPM Governor mode.)
Rhino 4S 1750 20C or Zippy Flightmax 4S 2200 20C Battery
Will Hubin timer FM-2X (custom for CC ESC using Control Line Governor mode set RPM)
(Will now has this timer called FM-2SR at $15)
APC 12-6 electric pusher cut down to 11"
60' lines (eye to eye).
RSM Old Time Legal kit built is the same as above except:
Scorpion 3014-22 motor 892 KV
(Scorpion has replaced this motor with the "new" Scorpion SII-3014-830KV)
John
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Cavalier - 650 Tom Morris design
Wing Area 650
RTF weight 60 ounces
Motor AXI 28-26-10
Battery 4cell/ 4200 mamp LiPo
Timer/sequencer JMP 1st to 3rd generation
ESC Phoenix 40 amp
Prop Carbon 3 blade bolly 10 / 6-8
That is Gorgeous!!!
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Strictly speaking, this plane no longer exists :'(, but during its short life it was a pretty good flyer.
I don't exactly recollect how or why I bought the ARF, but it was pretty cheap and I think Renkar's "It's only a Hobby" 1/2A stunt contest was fast approaching. I was getting a little tired of flying an old hand-me-down TF FLite Streak (irony is I flew that plane in this fall's contest). I also believe that I originally assembled it for my Killer Bee 049, planning to use a Kavin extended Black Widow Tank. As it turns out that didn't work well.
So moving right along, I decided to convert it to electric. At the time I was thinking about the possibilities of making a beginner's electric 1/2A, and thought I would target it with a 2sLipo pack. One motivation was that a beginner might want to use a 6 cell NiMH pack, and that is about the same volts. I also had the motor winding bug back then, and purchased several kits from Gobrushless.com. In the end I went with a GBx1.1 which I wound with 11 turns of 22 gauge wire (this is a 9 tooth stator with 12 magnets). My kV was ~2300 rpm/V. This was a bit on the low side, and since I was limited to a 6" diameter prop (Renkar rules), it was important to get as high a pitch as possible.
Here was the final setup.
Brodak Baby Clown ARF.
GBx1.1 wound 11 turns of 22 gauge wire--kV~2300rpm/V weight = 1.3oz
Thunderpower Lite 2s730mAHr Lipo (weight=1.14oz with connector)
JMP-2 timer
CastleCreation Thunderbird 9A ESC (no governor mode)
APC E 6x5.5 prop (just one!)
All up flying weight is 6.9oz (plane alone=3.9oz)
I flew on 35 foot lines. Beginner pattern (used in contest) used no more than 1/2 the pack capacity.
Here is a photo with an early attempt at using a multiblade prop!
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Modified Eratix 3D Plane
This plane was originally posted with a different setup, but since I snapped the outboard wing off. I will list the changes that made it work this time.
Weight: 66oz
Motor: Rimfire 42-50-800kv
ESC: Castle Creations Ice 50
Timer: Hubin FM-2A
Prop: APC e-prop 12.75 x 4.5
Lines: .015 x 63.5 Eye 2 Eye
ESC set up.
Throttle Brake
Vehicle type: C/L Strength: 100%
Throttle type: Gov Delay: None
Settings for Gov mode Ramp: Immediate
Set RPM
Initial spool up rate: 8 Cutoffs
Head speed change: 8 Voltage :Normal
Current limiting :Normal
Required settings for set RPM Cutoff type :Hard
Volts: 14.8
# of cells: 4 Motor
Motor & gearing info Start power: High
Direct drive Timing: 8
Direction: Fwd
Motor info PWM Rate: 12Khz
KV:800
Magnetic poles: 14
Head speeds
9800 @ 50%
9900 @ 50-99%
10000 @ > 99%
Well at least this is a good start any way. Ill figure how much battery is being used once I start doing full patterns.
Later.
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I would like to post my set up. I need to know if the weight of the airplane includes the battary. My E-Vector weighs 46 oz. with the battary installed. 36 oz with it sitting on the bench.
Thanks,
Tim Tipton
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Electric converted Baby Ringmaster (Pat King kit patdk@aol.com)
Flight weight = 7.7 oz
Wingspan = 24+ inches (modified to extend an extra 4 inches)
Area = 112 sq inches
Wing loading = 9.2 oz per sq foot
Motor = Turnigy 2822 at 1400KV
Prop = APC thin electric 7/5 pusher
RPM = 11500
Current = 5.4 Amp
Battery = Rhino 3S 460 20C
ESC = Castle Creations 10 Amp in Control Line Governor Set RPM mode
Timer = Will Hubin FM-0d
Static thrust= 8.5 oz
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Brodak Baby Flight Streak Conversion
(Kit was built stock except the addition of a battery box on outboard wing.)
RTF weight = 9.3 ozs
Wingspan = 26.25"
Area= 150 sq in
Wing Loading = 8.93 ozs/sqft
Motor = Arrowind 2040-24 in-runner @ 2200 Kv
Prop = 4.7 x 4.2 APC Speed 400 Prop
RPM = 19,000 static
Current Ststic = 10.5 amps
Battery = Rhino 3S 20C 1050 (Lightened by replacing leads, shortening balance plug, and removing shrink wrap and replacing with Kapton Tape.)
ESC = Turnigy Plush 9gram 10 amp
Timer = JMP-2 (Flight Time set to 3:00. First flight speed set to 85% throttle for 1:30, then upping to 100% before end of flight. (2) flights on (1) pack)
Static Thrust = approx 14 ozs (calculated)
Lines = 0.008" x 42'
Lap Time = 3.2 sec/lap
Airplane is very fast and can do the whole pattern in 3:00. Have flown in up to 18mph wind with no issues.
Archie Adamisin
Muncie, Indiana
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Brodak Super Clown Sport Package (BH-1831)
Motor: Arrowind Outrunner 2815-09 kV = 920 (3.9 Oz)
ESC: Arrowind 35A (1.3 Oz)
Timer: Will Hubin - FM-0c (adjustable time 1.45 to 6 min and power 60-100%)
Battery: Arrowind 3300mA 3S1P 20C (9.4 Oz)
Prop: 9 x 4.5 E
Brodak Pathfinder
55" wingspan
620 sq. in.
Motor: Turnigy 35-48 B kV: 900 (Weight: 5.75 Oz)
ESC: Castle Phoenix ICE LITE 50 (Wt: 0.8 Oz) Set RPM mode
Timer: Will Hubin FM-2 (adjustable RPM, Delay & Time)
Battery: Turnigy 3300mA 4S1P 20C (Wt: 12.6 Oz)
Prop: APC 12 x 6 EP (pusher)
All up Weight: 53.0 Oz
Lines: 61' x .015 eye to eye
RPM: 8700
Laptime: 5.4 sec
mAH used in 6 min flight: ~2400
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E Nobler, scratch built, full take-apart, 2 piece fuselage,2 piece wings,removable tail
removable fin/rudder, long top hatch with full access to power train and controls so also is
fully adjustable. Final weight is 53 ounces, flies a sweet pattern plenty of line tension
Axi 2826/10, Hyperion 2500mah 4cell 25C quick charge batteries, Schultz F2b ESC, Hubin
timer, isolating switch on red battery lead to ESC, 12x6 APCE pusher prop, on 60 foot
015 lines lap time is 4.99secs, flight time is 5:40mins take off revs 8000
Special thanks to Wil Hubin for help above the call
Vincent
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Original Design (no name yet)
Span 55"
Area 580 sq in
Weight 50 oz
Motor Hacker A30-10XL 900RPM/V
Controller Hacker X-55-SB (55 Amps)
Battery 4S 3200 mAh (Electri fly)
Prop 12-6 APC Electric
Lines 66.5' X 0.018
Set for about 80% max RPM.. (Will get tach read and lap time)
This plane is now shown on www.flyinglines.org under Eugene Prop Spinners (club newsletter). Will get
some pictures soon as it stops raining.
Floyd Carter
Eugene, OR
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Proctor Jenny JN4D-2
87.5 inch wingspan, 10.2 lbs, 1400 sq in. biplane
Turnigy SK5065-380 kV, 1800 watts
CC ICE 100 A ESC
Turnigy 6S 5000mAh battery
17-6 Scimitar prop (scale prop)
flies at 35mph on 70 ft lines
Clancy Arnold 4 channel encode-decode, using throttle and towhook release.
See build thread in Scale Models
John Witt
Edmonds, WA
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"Firecracker" - (Take apart)
61oz
650 sq inches (approx)
Eather 13 x 5 " Carbon prop (shortly to try 13 x 4.75")
9300RPM
5.5 - 5.6 Sec/Lap
Arrowind 2832 motor
Turnigy 3600 4s or Rhino Zippy 3700 4s battery
Uses approx 2300 mah on 6m flight (less 25 secs spool-up)
Hubin Timer
Ice 50 ESC
68.5ft lines (centre to centre)
Bruce Hoffmann
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Legacy Built from Brodak Kit
Weight fully loaded 66oz
Motor - Turnigy 35-48-900
ESC Castle Creations Phoenix 45
Timer Ztron V4
Battery Zippy Flightmax 4000mah
Prop APC 13 x 4.5 Pusher
63ft lines
Lap times are a little quick at 4.9 sec -this is running at 10,200 rpm will be taking this down to 9800 or so to slow it down a little.
Flight Time set to 5m 30sec gets me through the pattern and 6-7 laps after putting various amounts back in to pack from 2675 to 3525!!!!!! The larger limit was at 6minute flights so hoping I can get it stabilised a lot lower
only had 12 flights so far
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e Vector - Brodak Kit - conversion from IC (was OSLA40) to ECL
Motor: Turnigy SK3542-1000 Aerodrive xp
ESC: Castle ICE Lite 50 - CL governor mode
Timer: Hubin FM-2 remote (set RPM mode)
Battery: Zippy 2650 mAh 4S 20C
Prop: APC 11x5.5E
Using: 1800mAH / 6 mins
Lines: 61' x 0.15 eye to eye
Weight: 50 oz
RPM: 9500
Lap time: 5.2 sec
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RH Stunter - "Songbird" - 1 of 2 conversions to electric.
Motor: Turnigy 4240-900
Prop: Hobby King clone of APC 12/6
ESC: Phoenix 35
Battery: Turnigy 3000 4s
Flight time: 5:38
Lap time: 5.6
Line length: 60'
Battery usage: 2241 (74.7%)
Timer: Will Hubin M7 set RPM mode
Pictures of plane below.
Here is a trivia question I would like to see if anybody knows the answer.
I named my plane after a plane that was used in a TV series many many years ago. What is the name of the TV series? In fact, the series had a contest. Listeners were asked to submit names for the plane and the best one would be used. Needless to say, I was not the winner.
I hope my set up information is helpful.
I made one error above, the time is set in governor mode and the RPM are about 8800
Ron - Queens NY
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Brodak T-Rex ARF
Arrowind 2832-05
Thunder Power Pro Lite V2- 14.8v 3300 mAh
Ice 50 ESC
Huben Timer
APC 13 x4.5 P
65 oz
2601 back in battery 5:30 flight
60' eyelet to eyelet .018 lines
5.2 lap times
9650 rpm.
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SIG Skyray 1/2a
Electrify Rimfire 300 - 28-22-1380kv
Thunder Power Pro Lite V2 - 3s 11.1v 480 mAh Li-po
E-flight 10 Amp Pro ESC
JMP Timer
APC 7x6 Electric
Total Flying Weight - 185 grams/6.55 oz.
35' x .008" braided stainless steel lines
approximately 3.5 - 4 seconds/lap
3 minute flight time/charge
RPM - ?
On the test bench this setup gives me 300 grams/10.6 oz. static thrust @ 7 amps. This conversion of the stock SIG kit results in a tail heavy plane. I had to mount the battery right up front. I would suggest lightening the tail during build if you would like to try it yourself. It flies great, perfect for a learner like myself.
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RH STUNTER - "APACHE"
Scratch built - Vector Wing reduced to 48"
Flying weight - 51 oz.
Lines - 60'
Lap time - 5.5 Sec
Motor - Turnigy 4240-900
RPMs - 8900
Battery - Turnigy 3000 4 cell
Prop - Clone APC 12/6
Timer - Will Hubin FM7 set in Gov. Mode
Flight time - 5:38
ESC - Phoenix 35
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Brodak T-Rex ARF airplane
Turnigy 42-50 650kv motor
Castle ICE50-LITE ESC
Hubin FM-2a timer
4000 mah, 5S, 20C battery
APC 13x6.5 electric pusher prop
.018 x 64' eye to eye flying lines
RPM set at 8500, 5.0 second laps and 5minute 39 second flight time.
30 second start delay.
I am very happy with this setup. It performs very well. My brother Ron has a similar setup using a Monster 32, 42-50 770kv motor, Castle ICE-75 ESC, Hubin FM-2a timer, and APC 12x6 electric pusher prop set at 9200 RPM on his Brodak T-Rex ARF. His performance is almost identical to mine.
Roger Anderson
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Flying weight=64oz-65oz
Infinate-3025-890 (Scorpion Clone at 1/3 the price) lets see if it holds up.
Phoenix 45
Will Hubin FM7 Timer
APC13x4.5EP
64' eye to eye
10000 rpm Gov mode
Polyquest RC 4s 4250 or FlightMax 4s 4400
Time=5min 38 sec
Back in pack=3000mah
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Here's the latest addition to my Firecracker stable of models (number 5!) - This one is a totally dedicated Electric model, previous electric aeroplanes I've had have been 'retro-fitted), the last one was a pull-apart Firecracker model that I built a new fuselage for. It flys very well at 5.8s/lap on 68.5 ft lines (centre to centre) so hopefully this new one will go just as well or better.
The new model weighs in at 56.5oz complete with battery and all electrics. Have some other batteries on order which are apparently around 3oz lighter so that will bring down the weight even more.
Using an Arrowind 2832 motor, an APC pusher 13 x 4.75" prop (to start with) and currently 3600mah batteries - (have the 3000 mah on order), Hubin FM2 timer + Phoenix Ice 50 ESC.
Bruce
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Got back into CL around 18 months ago after 30 year away, still only really a club/sport flyer. Chose electric from the off and entered my 1st comp a few weeks ago and really enjoyed it, I've amassed a few models, all still flying, small fry in comparison to most already listed by here goes...
Wingspan 42"
Wing Area 400
Weight 30oz
Lines 55' 0.012
Battery 3s 2500
Motor Scorpion 3014/16 1187kv
ESC CC35 Phoenix
Timer JMP2
Prop APC E 10*5
RPM 9800
Flight Time 330s
Mah Used 1750-1820
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1st Electric model to enter an official SAM35 Vintage stunt competition in the UK
Wingspan 42"
Wing Area 383
Weight 29oz
Lines 55' 0.012
Battery 3s 2300
Motor EMAX BL2815/09 1100kv
ESC CC35 Phoenix
Timer JMP2
Prop APC E 10*5
RPM 9900
Flight Time 330s
Mah Used 1670-1720
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Wingspan 40"
Wing Area 400
Weight 32oz
Lines 55' 0.012
Battery 3s 2500
Motor Scorpion 3014-16 1187kv
ESC CC45 Phoenix
Timer JMP2
Prop APC E 10*5
RPM 9750
Flight Time 330s
Mah Used 1800-1900
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Wingspan 42"
Wing Area 410
Weight 34oz
Lines 55' 0.012
Battery 3s A123 2300
Motor AXI 2820/08 1500kv
ESC CC45 Phoenix
Timer JMP2
Prop APC E 10*7
RPM 9700
Flight Time 300s
Mah Used 1870-1920
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Built per plan but lengthened the nose to cater for the battery and for balance. Replaced engine bearers and used localised hardwood inserted for motor bracket.
Wingspan 53"
Wing Area 550
Weight 44oz
Lines 60' 0.015
Battery 3s 4000
Motor Scorpion 3014-16 1187kv I thought this would struggle but although it gets a very warm it hauls it around with authority. y1
ESC CC45 Phoenix
Timer JMP2
Prop APC E 11*5.5
RPM 9600
Flight Time 360s
Mah Used 2800-2850
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Pathfinder
Turnigy 3548 900 kv
Turnigy 3000 mah battery
phoenix 45 (no programming cord available)
Will Hubin flight managment programmer and timer set at compensated throttle, 65 percent, that yields 10,100 rpm on APC 11-5
5.0 sec laps on 60 foot lines
est. mah for 5 min 2400 (first flight only flew 4 minutes to see what it used, and it used 1950 mah)
I removed a fox 60 and six ounce tank I had been playing with on this airplane, and had to remove all tail weight and put a heavier nose wheel on to get it to sit on all three wheels. Electric system is definitely lighter than I.C.
Flew every bit as good as it did when I had airplane outfitted with L.A. 46.
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Thanks, Warren!
A new area can be daunting if you have never actually dealt with it before.
Bill
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Sultan e
Wing Span 61.5"
Wing Area 695 sq. in.
18% thick
5.3 Aspect Ratio
Weight 59oz. w/ 5S2600 ThunderPower Battery
Uses 1650ma for 5:30 flight
Motor AXI 2826/12 motor is front mounted w/ 4 holes in firewall to cool motor.
Motor is also supported via 6mm flanged bearing available from Boca Bearings #SFR188-UU #7
at the rear as per Bob Hunt's illustrations
CC ICE 50 lite
FM-9 timer system
Prop 13 X 4.5 ACP EP
65' "Eye to Eye" lines
9750 RPM for 5.2 sec lap times
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RH Stunter "Songbird II"
Scratch built - Stiletto Wing 48" - Vector moments
Motor = Turnigy 4240-900
Battery = Turnigy 3000
Timer = Will Hubin FM-7 Gov mode
ESC = Phoenix 45
Flying Weight = 51.5 oz.
Lines = 60'
Lap time = 5.5 Sec
Flight time = 5:31
Back into battery = 2125-2172
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Guys,
E Don Still Stuka
Ship is 47" span, 36 oz dry, 44 oz with battery
Motor = turnigy 35 42B - 1000
Battery = TP 2100 Pro Lite 4S1P
Timer = Ztron 3
Prop - APCE 9x4.5
RPM - 9750
ESC Phoenix 35 CC link 3.255, CL Governor - fixed rpm mode, spool custom 8, Governor gain 30, Head Speed change rate -8, 14.8 battery, rpm 9000, motor start med 59, motor timing 8, direct drive, forward, PwM Rate 16 Khz, Brake 100 (hard), Brake delay 0.2, Brake ramp Fast, Cut off - Lipo/normal
Lines = 0.015, 59" C to C
Lap time = 4.95
Flight time 5m, 10sec
Drawdown - 1760
Best, DennisT
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Brodak p-40 ARC
Flying weight=low to mid 50's
E-Flite 25 870 KV
Trunigy 4s 3600mah
Castle Ice Lite 50
Hubin FM9
APC 12x6E
63' eye to eye
Lap 5.4
2300 back in pack
9950 rpm Gov High
Time=5min 30sec
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P47: Kit Bashed Brodak P40, 1st place in advanced Profile, Brodak 2010
Weight: 50 oz with battery (battery weighs 16 oz)
Motor: e-Flite 25
Battery: Turnigy Power Systems 4S 3600, 30-40C
Prop: APC 12-6 Thin Electric (Pusher)
Controller: Castle phoenix 45 (governor High mode)
Timer: Hubin FM9
Lap time: 5.1
Amp Draw: 2750 for 6 minute flight
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Tsunami: Original design, 3rd place in advanced PAMPA, Brodak 2010
Weight: 62 oz with battery
Wing Area: 690 sq inches
Motor: e-Flite 32 770 KV
Battery: Thunder Power V2 5S 3300
Prop: APC 13-4.5 Thin Electric (Pusher)
Controller: Castle Ice Lite 50 (governor High mode)
Timer: Hubin FM9
Lap time: 5.3-5.4
Amp Draw: 2450 for 6 minute flight
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Magician: Second Place in Advanced Classic, Brodak 2010
Weight: 40.0 oz with battery
Motor: Turnigy C 3548-900
Battery: Thunderpower 4S 2700 Pro Power, 30C
Prop: APC 11-5.5 Pusher
Controller: Castle Ice Lite 50 (Gov high mode)
Timer: Hubin FM9
Lap time: 5.2
Amp Draw: 1950 for 5.30 minute flight
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TF ARF Nobler
Motor: E-Flite 32
Batt: Zippy 2650 mah 4S 20C
ESC: CC 50 Ice
Timer: FM-9
1100 mah for 4:30 run at 8040 rpm (breaking in batteries)
Modified the under wing cover/hatch so the batteries are stowed exposed under the wing with velcro straps on a 1/8" ply diving board that spans the fuse. It's almost neary flush with the fuse.
Flew it at the Basin this weekend
Tony and crew loved it.
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Testbed for high power system:
Wing Area: 650 in sq
T/O weight: 81 oz.
C.G.: 21% MAC
Lines, Eye-to-eye: 0.015 x 64 ft
Lap time: 5.3 sec
Motor run duration: 5:35 (FAI)
Motor: Hyperion 4020 8-Turn 777Kv
Propeller: APC E 15 x 6
RPM: 7850, constant
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix ICE 75 lite, controlline mode, high rpm governor, data logger
Max. ESC temp.: 65° C
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Battery: 4000 mAh 4S 14.8 volts
Level flight power: 400 Watts
Peak manoeuver power: 750 Watts
Peak current: 56 Amp
Energy used: 3000 mAH
Performs totally effortless schedule at comfortable, seemingly near constant airspeed, despite considerable overweight. Crisp upper hourglass corners no problem.
March 2011 update: Inefficient but functional proof of concept. Now retired
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ARC Impact (only the wing survived!)
Everything else was built from the original plans. It is a take apart just like the original.
So here are the particulars.
Weight 66 oz
Motor: Orbit 20-16 720 kv 10 pole
ESC: Ice 50
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Battery Thunder Power, Hyperion 18.5v 3300mah
Prop: APC 13 X 4.5p
RPM 9500- 9600 approx
Line length 67.5 ft total
Lap times 5.3-5.4
Flies well despite needing some trimming (of course that never stops!)
Not bad for a practice plane.
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Signorina Elettra March 21 2011 update:
Type: Trivial Pursuit Special Edition derivate with a high aspect ratio wing (5.7) and smaller flaps
Motor thrust axis: 0.5° up (due to reverse running pusher prop)
Stab. Incidence: + 0.2° (approx.)
Span: 61.5 in
Area: 666 sq. in.
T/O weight, with battery: 1'850 Grams or 65 oz.
C.G. 15% MAC or 7 1/16in fwd. of flaps hingeline
Flap-Elevator throw ratio: 0.85 : 1
Power Train:
Motor: AXI 2826/12 760 Kv
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix ICE lite 75
Timer: Hubin FM-9 in New Phoenix high gov. mode
Battery: 18.5V 2'600m/Ah 5S (11.5 oz)
Propeller: APC 13 x 4.5 E P
ESC setup:
Vehicle Type: Control Line
Throttle Type: Governor Mode
Governor Mode Setting: Governor High
Governor Gain: Medium 25
Initial Spool Up Rate: High 8
Head Speed Change Rate: Custom 20
Brake Strength: 100%
Brake Delay: 0.8 sec.
Brake Ramp: Medium
Cutoff Voltage: Auto Lipo
Auto Lipo Volts/cell: 3.2 Volts/cell
Current Limiting: Very sensitive 75A
Cutoff Type: Soft Cutoff
Motor Start Power: Custom (75)
Motor Timing: Custom 4
Direction: Reverse
PWM Rate: 8 Khz
Gearing Info:No Gearing/Direct Drive
KV of Motor: 760
Magnetic Poles in Motor: 14
Power-On Beep: Enabled
BEC Voltage: 5.0 V
Logging: 10 Hz
Flight data (March 16th. 2011)
Air: 1300 ft/msl, 15°C (59°F), calm
Lines: 19-strand 0.015in x 64ft. eye-to-eye
RPM: 9'700 actual (logged)
Run Time for FAI Pattern: 5:20 from end of spool-up until shutdown
Speed: 5.3 sec lap
Current in level flight: 20 A
Peak current in manoeuvres: 32 A
Consumption: 1'900 mAh or 73% capacity
Loaded voltage in clover: 18.2V or 3.6 V/cell
Motor & battery temp.: below 100°F
ESC peak temperature: 60° F
Kind regards, Peter Germann
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Will Moore's Electric "Thunder Cloud"
This is the electric variant of the John Ashford design. It originally had a Saito 62 ,4-stroke for power.
Seems to fly equally well with the electric setup. I used this model for a testbed in working up
a power system for a Yatsenko electrified Shark. The "Thunder Cloud" took 1st place
at the Wrentham, MA, Mass Cup contest in September 2010.
The e Shark I am building should equally perform, if not better.
Any questions, contact me at 44willmoore@gmail.com
Setup:
Motor - Plettenberg Orbit 30-16 outrunner
Sequencer - Hubin FM- 9 timer with remote start button
ESC - Shultze F2b dedicated control line
Battery - Thunder Power Lite 2nd generation 3900 mamps 5 cell Li-Po
Props - various 13 to 14 inch, 6-7 inch pitch pusher and tractor
Weight - 72 ounces with battery ready to fly
Lines - 64 to 66 foot, eye to eye .018 braided SS
Energy used in 6 minute flight - 2200 to 2300 mamps
Has plenty of power and battery has plenty of headroom.
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Noel Corney's SV11 ARF
Model is a Brodak SV 11 ARF. I replaced the leadouts ,wheels are narrow electric 2-1/2 in and the cowl is held on with magnets. I have a baffle in the cowl inlet at approx 45 degrees pushing air onto the motor and a 1 in round exhaust with a cowl vent to remove hot air from the motor. I have no cooling problems with either battery or controller.
I have fitted a battery isolator as the tank/battery area is very tight,this allows the model to be set up for flight at any time.
Motor: EMAX 2832/05 960 KV this is identical to the Brodak/Arrowind 2832/05 motor
ESC: CC Phoenix Lite ICE 50 amp in fixed rpm mode 8850rpm
Timer: Hubin Fm 9
Prop: 12x6 EP APC
Battery: 3700 Rhino
Power: uses 2380 at home almost sea level 2250 at Dalby
Spinner: from Dude R/C
Lines: 66 ft eye to eye.
Lap time: 5.6sec
Weight: 62oz
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Vector 40
Scorpion 3026 890kv
APC 11.5X5
Shultz F2B ESC
Kim Doherty Processor
Zippy 3000 ma 20c Battery
So far just bench run have to wait till spring... :( D>K
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Airplane: ARF Legacy, 690"
Motor: AXi 2826-10 920kv rear mounted to typical firewall bulkhead
ESC: Phoenix 45
Timer: Hubin F-9 with field programing box
Batteries: 4S 20-25C in 3000-3200 mah range (ThunderPower, Hobby People, Zippy)
Prop: APC 12 X 6 EP Thin Electric
RPM: 9000 to produce 5.2 laps on 65' lines
Weight: 60-ish oz depending on battery
mAh used: 2100-2200 put back for 5 min 20 sec pattern flight (full pattern plus about 6 laps)
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, sea level (sometimes below depending on tides at our field)
Tangle of wires: Yes
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Brodak Vector 40 ARC
Area- 536 sq in
Weight- haven't weighed her yet
Motor- Scorpion 3020 S-II 890 kv($70)
Battery- GensAce 4S 2500 mah($30)
ESC- Castle Phoenix Ice lite 50 ($77)
Timer- Will Hublin FM-9V($15)
Prop- APC 11 x 5.5, 11 x 7 and 12 x 6 "E", still testing
Spinner- TruTurn 1.75($79)
Rpm- 8500-9200, still testing
flight time- 2-3 minutes, short flights in testing.
Lap time- aprox 5.2
Line Length- .015, 63' eye to eye
Handle- Tom Morris unbiased w/adj cable
Covering- Ultracote, Pearl Purple and Carbon Fiber black
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8168/p3130180.jpg)
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Encouraged by experiences gained from so far from approx. 50 flights with Signorina Elettra, I have now converted an IC airplane into an electric stunter. The conversion was fairly easy to do and took less than 4 weeks time. Originally, PC-21/2 (another of my Trivial Pursuit Special Edition derivates) was equipped with a PA .75 on pipe and at 62.8 oz it was not really heavy. However, adding the weight of Ύ of its 210 cc fuel capacity brought the mid-pattern flying weight up to 67.5 oz. Here is the current data for the e-converted version of PC-21/2:
PC-21/2 E
Span: 60 in
Area: 703 in/sq.
Flying weight, with Battery: 64.3 oz
Motor: AXI 2826/12
Propeller: APC 13 x 4.5 E Pusher,
Battery: DesirePower V6 SP 2'600 mA/h 18.5 V (5S)
ESC: Castle Creations ICE lite 75A
ESC operation mode: C/L and Governor High
Timer: Will Hubin FM-9 with extd. leads
Programmer for timer: Will Hubin FM-9 Programmer with New Phoenix High Mode
RPM: 9'800 RPM, governed
Motor full RPM runtime:5'20"
Speed: 5.3 sec / lap on 64ft x 0.015in eye-eye lines
Consumption (17°C 1'400 ft. msl): 1'930 mA/h
kind regards, Peter Germann
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Ringmaster
Turnigy 3548-900
Hubin FM2a
Turningy 4S3000mah
Ice 50
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wingspan: 50.5"
wing area: 536 sq.in.
weight: 52 oz.
motor: Turnigy SK3548-1100
battery: Power Wing 4s 3300mah
ESC: Phoenix ICELITE 50 set in Hi Gov
timer: Hubin FM-9V
prop: 11x5.5 APCe prop
rpm: 10050
lap time: 5.1/5.0 sec.
lines: 60' eye to eye
flight time 5:30 min using 2060 mah
Update May 22nd
prop: 11x4.5APCe pusher prop
rpm:11220
lap time:5.1 sec
flight: 5.30 min. using 2200mah
used more battery but had excellent performance
Went back to the 11x5.5 APCep(pusher prop) for the 150 mah savings with same performance.
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Sultan e #2
Guys I just completed Sultan-e #2
Weight is 48.5 oz without battery- .1 oz less than the prototype (in post #64 above)
Wing span is 60.5", Area 686 in sq. same 14.4 % (with flaps) wing as posted in #64
With statics set to the same as prototype it flies remarkably like the prototype.
One of the noticeable differences is that this airplane howls like a siren. I believe this is because the volume of air being forced through the motor. The motor is cold upon landing. (see picture 5)
Motor is an AXI 2826/12; ESC is a Castle ICE Lite; Hubin FM-9 Timer system set to 9634 RPM for a APC 13X4.5 Pusher prop; ThunderPower batteries. Virtually all the same settings as delineated in the "Cookbook" see sticky in this Forum.
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> Arrowind 2210-25 kv=1560
> APC-E 7x5 Pusher prop.
> 3s 1300 and 1350 Li Po batteries, two of each.
> Castle Creations Thunderbird 38amp ESC (non governing).
> Current timer: KR timer with built in governor mode, this replaced the original FM-9.
> Original timer: Will Hubin FM-9 timer (Delay 15 seconds, fight time 4:35, and power set to 80%)
> .008 x 45' (eyelet to eyelet) lines.
> All up weight is 15 ounces including battery.
> 1/4 ounce of tip weight.
All ESC wires, except connection to timer, are cut to minimum length and soldered together. Battery is located under the plane at the CG. Covering is Polyspan with a couple of coats of dope. With the 7x5 prop the landing gear will need to be modified to give the prop tips more clearance.
Andy
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"Gilnaki" - a Yatsenko Shark
Wing Span 61 inches
Wing area Approx 690 sq..in.
MOTOR Plettenberg Orbit 20-18
ESC Jeti Spin 66 ( as of 10-2017 )
Sequence timer Igor Burgers Progressive timer )
Prop Yatsenko wood, tractor 13.5 X 5.5, 18grams
Battery Thunder Power 2700 mAh 5 cell G6 Pro-lite , 67 amps continual, 135 amps burst
( weighs 10.3 ounces)
Electrical connectors Deans
Ready to fly weight 63 ounces
Lines .018 64 feet eye to eye
Length of flight 5 minutes, 30 seconds
Level lap speed 5.3 ish seconds
RPM Approx. 8,500
Energy used 1795 - 1850 mAh ( Have almost 30 percent reserve left in battery at end of flight)
Flies like a dream, effortless in maneuvers, quiet flight with higher pitch prop
Battery slightly warm to the touch after flight, everything else cool.
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KISS es modified "Shrike" by Randy Smith
Wing Span 59.5 inches
Wing area Approx 653 sq..in.
MOTOR Plettenberg Orbit 20-16
ESC Shultze 18.46 F2B
Sequence timer Hubin Fm-9R
Prop APC 13/4.5 pusher
RPM 9616 (as selected by the timer on set-up)
Battery Thunder Power 2600 mAh 5s 18.5v G4 Pro-lite V2
Electrical connectors Deans
Ready to fly weight 64.5 ounces
Lines .018 63 feet eye to eye
Length of flight 5 minutes, 15 seconds
Level lap speed 5.1 to 5.2 seconds
Energy used 1795 - 1850 mAh ( Have almost 30 percent reserve left in battery at end of flight)
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Impact ARC by Doug Moon/Brodak
E-Flite 46, 12Pole, 670 kV, CC ICE 50 Amp ESC with Turnigy 6S 3000 mAh LiPo battery
APC 13-4.5EP prop, 67 ounces. 5.6 second laps on 67 ft .015 lines and 10100 RPM
energy consumption is 2050 mAh for full pattern plus 5 extra laps
Covered with Ultracoat. I crashed this plane on the 4th flight, and the rebuild added about 2 Oz.
The battery is embedded in the LE back to the first spar, and the nose was shortened 1.25 inches, plus the usual routed out IC motor mounts and an added 3/16 5 ply firewall mount for the motor. Cooling air enters through the nose scoop and exhausts at the tail through the elevator horn adjusting holes. Not too elegant but flies well. Nicest landing airplane I've ever had. Could have used 2600 mAh battery and saved some weight.
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Brodak Smoothie ARC
span 52 in
540 sq in
weight less battery 40.5 oz
weight battery 10.5 oz
launch weight 51 oz
motor Axi 2826/12
esc: phoenix 45
timer: Hubin FM6-A
prop: apc 12X6EP
battery: Arrowind 4S 2800 mah
line length 63 ft
flight time 5 min 30 sec
rpm: 8400
lap time: 5.25 sec
draw/flight 2050 mah
comments
flies well. I started with 2826/10 4 years ago and changed to the /12. This motor much more than needed. Turnigy 3536/910 would be used today with 11X5.5E prop.
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Brodak Oriental arf
span 55 inches
550 sq inches
weight less battery 40 oz
weight battery 10.5 oz
launch weight 50.5 oz
motor Turnigy SK 3536 910 kv
esc: pheonix 45
timer Hubin FM9
prop apc 11X5.5E
battery Arrowind 4S 2800 mah
line length 63 ft
flight time 5 min 30 sec
rpm 9645
lap time 5.25 sec
draw/flight 2200 mah
comments: Flys well. Power system a good match.
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UHP Nobler ARF
span 50 in
510 sq inches
weight less battery 37.5 oz
weight battery 10.5 oz
launch weight 48 oz
motor Turnigy SK 3536 910 kv
esc: phoenix 45
timer: Hubin FM9
prop apc 11X5.5
battery: Arrowind 4S 2800 mah
line length 61 ft
flight time 5 min 40 sec
rpm 9720
lap time 5.2 sec
draw/flight 2200 mah
comments: To get plane to balance and turn properly I cut a notch into leading edge of the wing back to the bellcrank (Rick Sawicki) and decreased motor size from 3542 to 3536. Plane turns well now and flies like a nobler.
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Brodak T-Rex ARC
span 60 inches
675 sq in
weight less battery 55 oz
battery weight 14.5 oz
launch weight 69.5 oz
motor axi 2826/12 760 kv
esc phoenix 45 or ice 50
timer Hubin FM9
prop apc 12X6EP
battery Rhino 4S 3700 mah
line length 63 ft
flight time 5 min 40 sec
rpm 9213
lap time 5.25 sec
draw/flight 2800 mah
comments: Have used multiple motors including axi 2826/12 4S & 5S, Arrowind 2832/05 5S, Dualsky XM 4260 CA5. Axi on 4S is by far best. Have used batteries including 3000 mah 4S turnigy... Rhino 3700 required to keep governor proper for full flight. If too small a battery wind up can occur at ending maneuvers in wind as pack runs down. No issues with Rhino 3700. This was part of the test regime with the plane. Superb flier. Corners best of anything I have flown. Weight includes all mods done in electric forum build thread.
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Brodak SV-11 arf
span 60.5 inches
675 sq inches
weight less battery 53.5 oz
weight battery 14.5 ox
launch weight 68 ounces
motor Axi 2826/12 760 kv
esc: phoenix 45
timer: Hubin FM9
prop apc 12X6EP
battery: 4S Rhino 3700 mah
line length 63 ft
flight time 5 min 40 sec
rpm 9213
lap time 5.45 sec
draw/flight 2350 mah
comments: started with Arrowind 2832/05 motor and aluminum needle nose spinner. Flew ok but not really crisp corners. Changed to axi 2826/12 dn light weight Great Planes spinner... dropped 3.5 oz from front of airplane. Now it corners very well and still very locked in in level flight. No other mods from build thread on this forum.
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CL sport model - Camera plane
My own design as a camera platform to get airborne video and pictures
I drew my own plans, this model was built in 1996 and needs a new paint job!
span 80"
Area: 1120 sq inches
weight less battery 9.4 lbs
weight battery 2.3 lbs
launch weight 11.7 lbs
motor E-Flite E-60
esc: phoenix 60
prop apc 16X6EP
battery: 2S, 5000 Mah x 3, wired in Series to make a 6S
line length 60 ft
Using a Castle ICE 75 amp speed control with data logging
normal cruise is at 30 amps, 63 watts per lb
A gentle take off run requires 600 Watts, or roughly 30 Amps
If pushed to 750 Watts, I can take off in less than 1/4 lap and climb out rather quickly
Normal cruise throttle setting is at 55 to 60% throttle setting
If I want to I can apply full power I can climb to 45 degrees or almost climb vertical on a short takeoff run
I use a JR radio for the DSC electronic controls, the signal and ground go down the flying lines to control the throttle with the speed control
This model can not do aerobatics due to it's size and weight, it was designed to be stable camera platform.
At full power the motor pulls 60 amps and measured at 1140 watts of power at full throttle.
When flown at 1/2 power the model can be flown for over 15 minutes and only reduced each 2S battery from 8.4 to 7.6 volts. The 5000 Mah capacity is actually more than I need.
comments: This model was converted from glow (OS-91FX) to brushless electric to learn about these systems. This model is a big airplane and has considerable line Tension during flight. The model has 5" main wheels. The specs for the E-60 says it can fly a model between 8-10 lbs, this model comes in over 11 lbs and the E-60 still has enough power to fly the model. This motor gives me 97 watts per lb, but I never fly at full power so I am only using 63 watts per lbs to cruise at 1/2 power.
Land Softly
Fred Cronenwett
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Electron 2
O.K I finally decided to post my own models here now that there many of my governor timers flying and they are working well. My first Electron had an MVVS 4,6/840 motor in it, and it was a little on the low power side to fly the 1910 gram beast. I therefore modified the model, managed to knock off 100 grams and used the bigger MVVS 6,5/910 motor. This has worked well for the last 2 years now.
The simple governor timer works by reading the rpm pulses from one of the motor wires and then uses this in a feedback loop to keep the rpm constant. I have won at 2 Nats and one SA Masters with this setup. The weight of 1810 grams (64 oz) is still too heavy, but it flies quite well.
If you need any more info on this system, have a look at my website:
http://www.keithrenecle.co.za/Electric%20CL.htm
Here are the specs:
Wingspan 57,5 inches
Wing area 670 sq. inches
Motor MVVS 6,5/910
ESC Hobbywing Pentium 60 amp (I have used many of the low cost esc's without governors as well)
Prop APC 12 x 6 E (pusher/tractor or ZOAR 12 x 7)
Battery 3300 mAh 4-cell (many types)
Uses 1800 mAh for 5:30 flight on 67 foot .014" Staystrate lines in Johannesburg SA. 2300 mAh at sea level
Keith R
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Protron take-apart profile
I built this one to see if it is practical to make a take-apart profile and also to see if I could hide all of the usual wiring and electric components like the esc, and timer etc. The take apart system worked o.k. and the I am really happy with the nose construction. It sure looks neater than those with everything hanging out. Just by the way, I did not misspell "Proton". It is a Profile ElecTron.
Here are the specs:
Winspan 50 inches
Wing area (I have not yet worked it out)
Motor E-Max 2820 (same as Arrowind)
ESC Hobbywing Pentium 40 amp (I've now use the ZTW 40 amp as well)
Battery 2200 mAh 4-cell Lipo
Weight 1250 grams (44 oz) with battery
Uses 1400 mAh for 5:30 flight at high altitude and 1750 at sea level on 65 ft. .015 cable lines (center to center)
Keith R
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Protron profile
Oh......one more thing, the prop is an APC 11 x 5,5 E tractor or pusher.
Keith R
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Protron profile
Oh......one more thing, the prop is an APC 11 x 5,5 E tractor or pusher.
Keith R
This Proton is a great design.
You should sell plans.
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I built this electric Ringmaster 150 from one of Pat King's (patdk@aol.com) laser cut kits.
Pat's kit comes with plans for either IC engine or an electric motor power.
Motor = Turnigy C2826 1350 KV (from hobbyking.com)
ESC = Castle Creations Phoenix 25 Amp
Timer = Will Hubin FM9 (whubin@kent.edu)
Prop = APC light Electric 7 x 5 pusher
Battery = 3 cell 750 mah (Rhino brand from hobbyking.com)
Covering = Ultracote
Flight ready weight = 8.9 oz
35' lines
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Name: Protroma
Wing Area: 610 sq-in
Weight 55 oz
Motor: Scorpion SII 3026-710
Battery:Thunder Power G6 5S 2700mah Pro Lite
ESC: Castle Phoenix ICE 50 Lite
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Prop: APC 13x4.5 Thin hub
Line length: 62 feet .015 braided
Run Time: 5:20
Launch RPM: 9553 RPM
Lap Time: 5.25 sec
MAH Used: 2000mah
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W. Span 43 1/4"
W. Area 407 sq. in.
Weight with batt. 35 oz.
Mtr. Arrowind 2815/09 (Rear mount)
Batt. Blue Lipo & Zippy Compact 4S2200 (25C)
ESC Phoenix 35
Timer Hubin FM-2SR
RPM Gov. mode High RPM 10,050)
Prop APC 10X 5.8EP
Lines 59 ft. eye to eye
Lap time 4.90 sec. give or take a freckle
Flight time 5 min. 35 sec. (Intermediate pattern) uses about 1650 mah
Special thanks to Dennis Adamisin for his help in selecting E components
Over 200 flights to date and several contest wins.
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Ampura
64" wing span
670sq.
Plattenberg Motor Orbit 20-12
Hubin Timer FM-9
Shultze ESC F2B
Wt. 59 oz.
Battery Thunder Power 2600 mAh 5 cell 18.5 V
Prop. APC 13x4.5 EP
lines 65' Eye to Eye
flight time 5.25 min.
RPM 9488
1967-2100mAh used
lap time 5.4
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Great Planes RV-4 (sport kit) for CL scale
56" span, 650 square inches of wing area
6.5 lbs with 4S battery, 5000 Mah
The 5000 Mah is more battery capacity than I really need, I can get two complete flights out this battery
Eflite E-32 Motor
Castle Creations ICE 75 speed control
12" APC electric prop
57' or 60' insulated lines (2 lines for electronic controls)
Model is flown in CL sport scale with DSC electronic controls for flaps and throttle control
Model is fiberglassed and then painted with latex house paint and used vinyl decals for the G-CEVC
The original kit outlines on the horizontal and vertical tail were wrong so I replaced them with correct outlines from factory drawings.
I also added a scale tail wheel instead of the normal RC tailwheel.
Land softly,
Fred Cronenwett
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The plane is a modified Impact renamed Centurion.
Wing Area 700 sq inches
Weight 66 ounces
Motor MVVS 6.5/910, the second number indicates the revs per volt
Battery 4 cell XPower 3300MAH
Controller 60 Amp Align and a Keith Renecle Control Line Timer
Prop APC 12X6
Line length 65 ft 9 inches eye to eye, 69 ft 3 inches total length
RPM 9,400
Lap time 5.2 seconds
MAH used per flight 2,400
Flight time 5min 40 seconds
Height above sea level 5560 feet
Temperatue 80 degrees Fahrenheit
The plane is a take apart; both wings come off, the fuselage comes apart into 2 equal sections, stab and fin comes off.
Has had 40 flights to date.
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Jamison Special
507 sq-in
38 1/2 oz
Scorpion SII-3020-890 kv
Rhino 4S 1550mah
Castle Phoenix 35A
Hubin FM-9
APC-E 11x5.5P
58 feet .012
4 min on time
9800rpm
5.2 sec
@1200mah used
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The plane is a modified Impact renamed Centurion.
Wing Area 700 sq inches
Weight 66 ounces
Motor MVVS 6.5/910, the second number indicates the revs per volt
Battery 4 cell XPower 3300MAH
Controller 60 Amp Align and a Keith Renecle Control Line Timer
Prop APC 12X6
Line length 65 ft 9 inches eye to eye, 69 ft 3 inches total length
RPM 9,400
Lap time 5.2 seconds
MAH used per flight 2,400
Flight time 5min 40 seconds
Height above sea level 5560 feet
Temperatue 80 degrees Fahrenheit
The plane is a take apart; both wings come off, the fuselage comes apart into 2 equal sections, stab and fin comes off.
Has had 40 flights to date.
Here are a few photos of Percy's Centurion
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Model :-ex Joe Parisi "Novar",
weight :-68 oz
Motor :Arrowind 2832
ESC:- :Arrorwind 60a
Timer:-Hubin F2sr
lap:-5.4 to 5.6 68ft c-c lines
prop:- Apc 13 x4.5 EPP @ 11000
All i can say is its very impressive .It was retrofited just to test the setup and only had 6 flights @ 4.5mins and uses 2100 MA ,more flying today ,Cg was set at 18% approx and point the nose up and it does not stop and the pusher gives no shortage of line tension,Joe had the 5th flight and was even impressesed,
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Sultan-e by Norm Whittle, Specs:
Span: 60.6 in (1'539 mm)
Area: 691 insq. (44.6 qdm), incl. flaps
Airfoil: NACA 016. modified to 17% thickness
T/O Weight: 60.1 oz (1'704 Gr.)
Finish: Oracover & spray can acrylic + spray can acrylic clear
Motor: AXI 2826/12 760
ESC: Castle Creations ICE lite 75 A with Firmware V 3.26 (Beta)
Timer: FM-9, latest version with spike suppression
Battery: DesirePower V8 2600mAh 5S (18.5V) 25C
March 7 2012 flight setup:
Temperature: 10° C
Alt. 352 m / 1'154 ft msl
C.G.: 15% MAC or 7.48 in (190 mm) from flap hingeline fwd.
Cables: 19-strand 0.015" (0.39mm) x 64 ft (19.5 m) eye-eye
Hingeline seal: both, flaps & elevators
Leadout (Center): 1" (26 mm) behind of C.G. or 6.48" (164 mm) from flap hingeline fwd.
Tip Weight: 1.48 oz (40 Gr)
Motor thrust angle: 0.5° down
ESC setup: Control Line, Governor high, Governor Gain 35, Timing 4 PWM 8Khz
Propeller: APC thin electric pusher 13 x 5.5 EP
RPM: 9'154
Lap: 5.50 sec
Delay: 30"
Run time: 5:20
Re-charge: 1'800 mAh (69%)
Peter Germann
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Ampact
Modified Steve Moon Impact ARC
front mounted E-flite 32, apc 13 x 5.5 prop
ICE lite 75 SC
Hubin 9VR timer
TP 5S 2700mah battery
weighs 64.5 oz
5.5 sec lap times on 65' lines
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E-Sultan and Son OF Sultan
690 sq. inches
65 ounces and 63.75 ounces
Axi 2826-12
Ice Light 50
Hubin FM9
Maxx Products arming plug
APC 13 by 5.5 EP
.018" by 64 ft 6" eye to eye
5.min 30 sec
5.35 sec laps
TP pro lite 2600 MAH 5 cell
use 2020 MAH
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Loose interpretation of a 1/2a Pinto
Finished with Microlite, Japanese tissue and MinWax Polycrylic
AXI 2217/12
JETI 30 amp ESC
E-Flight timer
Turnigy 1000 3 cell Lipo battery
APC 8x6 EP prop
RTF weight of 14 oz.
42' x .008 steel lines
Still working on trimming but seems to fly just fine
The throttle is turned down to about 60%
At that throttle setting after a 4 minute flight my batteries are at about 65% charged. At that rate I should be able to easily get 6 minute flight times.
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Wingspan 53.75"
Wing Area 565 sq.in.
Weight 52 oz.
Lines 60'/.015
Battery Thunder Power G6 Pro Lite 2700mah 25C
Motor Emax 2826/06 850kv
ESC Castle Creations Phoenix IceLite 50(set in hi gov. mode)
Timer Hubin FM9
Prop APC EP 11.5x6(cutdown 12x6)
RPM 9030@timer
Lap Time 5.3 sec.
Flight Time 5.30 min.
Mah Used 2013 mah
Great flying setup!
Bob
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Legacy
65' .018 lines, Tom Morris hard-point handle.
66 oz.
Cobra 2826-12 Brushless motor. 780kv
APC 13x4e
Turnigy 45a "Trust" ESC
Zippy Flightmax 5s 20c 4000mAh pack
Running 5:50 with a z-tron timer, it finishes the pattern and has about 15-20 laps to spare, doing almost exactly 5 second laps and a little under 2700mAh goes back into the packs.
100% power full time.
So after Flying the Legacy a few more times I figured I'd update a few things. When I wrote it was running 100% power all I knew was that it was running at the max the timer could make it go, it turns out that the motor is mechanically limited with a 5s pack at about 10800 rpm so it was reaching that at about 82% of what the esc had in its throttle curve. Any way, I now have it flying what feels like a very slow 5.3 second lap compared to the 5 second laps it was doing before. Thank you to everyone who made suggestions on how to improve it and a very special thanks to Mike Palko for all of his help in getting it off the ground in the first place!
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Specifications Max Bee
Date June 8 2012
Type Max Bee
Designer Igor Burger
Builder Peter Germann
Wing
Wingspan 1'500 mm (59 in)
Wing Area, incl. Flaps 42.5 qdm (659 in sq.)
Airfoil Burger
Thickness (% MAC) 22 %
Empennage
Span 760 mm (30 in)
Empennage area in % of wing 31 %
Fuselage
Nose length 298 mm (11.73 in)
Hingeline-hingeline 475 mm (18.7 in)
Power Train
Motor type and Kv AXI 2826/12 760
ESC Castle Creations ICE lite 75 A
Timer Hubin FM 9 / spike protected
Battery, type, capacity, no. of cells DesirePower V8 5S 2600 mAh 60C 362 Grams/12.75 oz
Weight
Take-off weight 1'825 Grams (64.5 oz)
Lines
19-strand stainless steel, eye-to-eye 0.39 mm x 19.5 m (0.015 x 64 ft)
Trim
C.G. in % of MAC 20.7 %
C.G. from flaps hingline forward 180 mm (7.08 in)
Leadout setting (center, aft of C.G.) 19 mm (3/4 in).
Outer tip weight on scale 28 Gr. (1 oz)
Flaps-Elevators throw ratio 1:1
Hingeline sealing Flaps
Propeller thrust line +1° (up)
Angle of attack stabilizer +/-0°
Handle spacing 110 mm (4.33 in)
FM-9 RPM set 9'553
Lap time (sec) 5.30
Electric Setup Castle Phoenix ICE lite 75A
Motor start delay 30 sec
Runtime 5 min 20 sec
Laps remaining after clover 6
Propeller, type, rotation, APC thin electric 13 x 5.5 EP (reverse)
Motor timing 4
PWM Frequency (kHz) 8 KhZ
ESC Mode Control Line
Governing mode Governor High
Brake strength 95 %
Brake delay 0.8 sec
Cutoff Voltage 18 V (for use with spark protection plug)
Auto-Lipo shutoff 3.0 V
Cutoff type Soft Cutoff
Power consumption (recharge) 350 m/M 25°C, calm: 1'950 mAh
Peter Germann
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Original design RH Stunter - "SORCERER"
Bob Hunt "Caprice" foam wing - total span 51"
Covering - Ultracote with Monokote trim sheets
All hinges are made from Ultracote
Functional air scoops in front. Air intake hole at bottom front has baffle to direct cool air to motor and electronics inside.
Large hot air escape hole in bottom behind wing with exit deflector.
Total flying weight - 53.4 oz.
Motor - Exceed Rocket 2820-860
Prop - APC 11x5.5 Pusher
Battery - GensAce 3300 mAh
ESP - Castle Phoenix 45 in Governor mode
Timer - Will Hubin FM7 with remote start button and remote RPM adjustment
Tom Morris ball joint control system
Lines - 60' eye to eye
Lap time - 5.3 seconds
Flight time - 5:30
Ron Heckler
New York Control Line Stunt Team
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Plane: RSM version of the Tom Warden Continental modified for electric.
Motor: Hacker A30-10XL
ESC: ZTW 70amp all settings at default.
Timer: KR Governor/Timer. Gain set to 5 @ 8100RPM
Battery: Hobby People 3200MAh 4S 25C with Deans connectors.
Prop: APC 12x6.5WEP
External battery disconnect per Brett's proposed rule change.
All up ready to fly weight 62.5 ounces.
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I am delighted to report that I now have a setup:
July, 2012
Impact with wider fuselage, taller "canopy", and bigger horizontal tail, 65 oz.
Lines just shy of 70' maximum.
Plettenberg 20-16 motor
Castle Ice Lite 75 motor controller
Hubin FM-9 timer
Thunderpower TP2700-5SPP65 battery
Deans connectors, Spot On RC connector shells
APC F2B 13-4.5 backwards prop
Works a treat.
October, 2013
Impact with wider fuselage, taller "canopy", and bigger horizontal tail, 69 oz.
Lines just shy of 70' maximum.
E-flite Power 32 motor
Castle Ice Lite 75 motor controller
Hubin FM-9 timer
Thunderpower TP2700-5SPR45 or TP2700-5SPF70 battery
Deans connectors, Spot On RC connector shells
Cox-Resinger 11-5.5 Green backwards prop
Lots of sustainably harvested, artisanal vortex generators
Works even better.
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Geo-XLe
59" wing span
~700 sq in area
Scorpion SII 3026 710kv
Flightmax 5s 3000 mah 20c
Ice Lite 50 in Set RPM mode at 9625 RPM
Hubin FM-2a
APC 13x4.5 EP
53.5 ounces RTF
.015 lines at 70' center of handle to center of model
Lap time 5.55
Average power consumption is 1800 mah
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This is what I am using on a 165 sq.in. (including flaps) model. That is about the size of an old style 1/2A stunter of the 60's through 80's. The thing flies great.
Current equipment is a Hacker A20-34 motor swinging a 6 x 5.5 APC prop at 12,500 rpm, an 850, 3S pack, a KR timer and 20 Amp speed control. It flies fine on 42' of Powerline (Spectra). The size and weight of the equipment are aimed at much smaller aircraft than the stuff Andy uses on his Baby Pathfinder.
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No pictures yet. This is only the proto type but shows promise.
500 square inch wing. Longer fuselodge and top loading battery. E-Flight 25 motor Castle lite ice 50 and hubin FM 9 timer programed for 9100 rpm-A bit fast 10X6 wooden prop
Thunder Power 3300MAH 4 cell battery. Flight time with 20 second ramp up 6.30 minutes. A small pakage and had hard time getting arming harness in. My next one will have a little more room for this. Lap times about 4.8 a little fast for this old guy but manageable. Plane not yet ready for competition and will be building another this winter.
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Leadouts on the wrong side. That's alright as I know I fly backwards according to you old guys. H^^
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Guys,
As a reminder, this thread is for posting your set up and not for general comments. Lets keep it that way.
Thank you.
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Its OK chris doc means no harm LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
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Plane American Pi & Zealot = PI-LOT LL~
55" W.S.
E-Flight 25
Hubin FM-9 Timer
Zippy 4 Cell 3000 mAh
APC 13x4.5 EP thin
Flight time 5.30 min.
RPM 9575
Battery used 2200-2300 mAh
Lap time 5.1
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Cardinal 660 (my own design)
Wing Area = 660sq.
Wt. RTF (including battery) =59oz.
Monokote covered.
Motor = E-Flite 25
Battery= 4 cell 3000, 40c
Launch RPM = 9655
Prop = APC 12x6 pusher
Lines = 64 .018
Lap Time = 5.2
Timer = KR, set @ 5 on governor
ESC = Ice Lite 50
So far a great flying airplane, it now has aprox.70 flights. A special thanks to Bruce Hunt for his outstanding trim flights
Regards.
Dave.
Ama 41041
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Reniger ET-1. These were for Christmas presents, to kids that needed everything. I'm including prices for the skeptical:
Turnigy 2S 3S Balance Charger. Direct 110/240v Input (USA Warehouse), TGY-3/24289 = $11.34
ZIPPY Flightmax 800mAh 3S1P 20C (USA Warehouse), Z8003S20C/18636 = $8.00
Hobbyking SS Series 18-20A ESC (USA Warehouse), HK-SS20A/17793 = $7.18
2205C 1400Kv Brushless motor (USA Warehouse), 2205C-1400/26482 = $9.29
Hobby King GT-2 2.4Ghz 2Ch Tx & Rx (USA Warehouse), HK-GT2/15141 = $19.69
That works out to $55.50 with one battery, $63.50 with two.
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FinessE (my own design)
W.Span: 58.25
W. Area: 651 sq. in.
Weight : 59.5 oz.(RTF)
Mtr. : E-Flite 25
Batt. : 4s 3000 lipos
ESC : Aerlion 50
Timer : KR
RPM : 9600 approx.
Prop : APC 12x6 pusher
Lines : 64 ft. eye to eye
Lap time : 5.2
Has only 12 flights as of now, still making subtle adjustments. Great line tension in overheads !!.....having fun!
Regards.
Dave.
ama41041
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Airplane
Max Bee Two (A derivate of Igor Burgers Max Bee 2011/12)
T/O weight: 65 oz or 1842 Grams
Area (wing & flaps): 691 sq.in or 44.6 dm2
Airfoil: Trivial Pursuit with nose radius 5/16or 8 mm d max = 2.44 in or 62 mm
Turbulators (4): at 10% of mid wing chord, parallel to LE. 0.02 x 5/16 in zig-zag 20in long
Empennage: Crossfire Extreme
Stabilizer A.o.A.: +/- 0°
Motor thrust angle: + 1°
Motor axis above wing c.l.: 1.4 in or 36 mm
Stabilizer c.l. above wing c.l.: 1 in. or 26 mm
Roll trim: outside tab
Rudder: Adjustable
Lines: 0.015 (0.38 mm) x 64 ft or 19.5 m (eye-eye)
Power Train
Motor: AXI 2826/12 760 KV with cooling fan COOL1
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix ICE lite 75 A Firmw. V 4.02, & Castle Link V3.55.00
Mode: Control Line / Brake on, high governing mode, Auto-Lipo off (for anti spark plug), Cutoff set to 15.0 V
Timer: Will Hubin FM-9
Programmer: Will Hubin FM-9 Programmer Version 2011, with New Phoenix High Gov. Mode.
Battery: Thunder Power Pro Power G6 5S1P 2700 mAh 65C 12.7 oz or 370 Grams
Spark protection: Jeti 4 mm female on + of all batteries. battery with 5.5 mm female
Propeller: APC 13 x 5.5 EP (Thin electric pusher)
Power Train Setup
RPM: 9'553 RPM
Speed: Laptime 5.35 sec on lines: 0.015 (0.38 mm) x 64ft or 19.5 m (eye-eye)
Motor start delay: 30"
Flight time set on Hubin programmer: 530
Time elapsed at end of roll-out (from depressing START button): 6:25
No wind battery recharge: 2'030 mAh (74%)
Final Flight Trim Setup
C.G.: 7.8 in or 199 mm. from hingeline forward (approx. 14.5% MAC)
Leadout centre: 1.42in or 36 mm. rear of C.G.
Tip weight: Outer tip 1.48oz or 42 Grams heavier
Flaps / Elevators throw ratio: 1:0.8
Hinge seal: None
Nose trim weight: 0
Tail trim weight: 0
Roll trim tab: 3° up
Rudder: neutral
Flight Trimming Process
April 2013: Insufficient tracking quality (wandering off from initial height) both in level and inverted flight.
June 2013; Trying to improve the quality of tracking in level and inverted flight, the following modifications (one by one but not necessarily in this order) have been done:
C.G. forward to 7.9 in (201 mm) from hinge line
Lead out center 1.67 in (43 mm) behind C.G.
Flat plate flaps TE rounded (was sharp edged)
Needle sharp elevator TE rounded
Replaced Max Bee empennage by the empennage of Crossfire Extreme, installed at +/0° AoA
Motor thrust axis set to +/-0°
Replaced Rabe rudder by an adjustable one
July 6th 2013: Still suffering from altitude hold issue in inverted flight (no wind).
July 27th 2103:
Added 20 in long zig-zag turbulators at 35% of wing chord.
Changed flap-elevator throw ratio to 1:0.8
Set motor thrust axis to +1° for pusher.
C.G. at 199 mm (7.8 in) from hingeline.
Leadout center at 151 mm (5.9 in) from hingeline, 1.6 in rear of C.G.
Outer tip 52 Gr (1.8oz) heavier than inboard tip.
Tracking improved, better level than inverted. Setup list updated.
August 6th 2013:
Removed turbulators at 35% of wing chord
Added turbulators at 1/2 in from stab leading edge
Tracking not as good as with turbulators at 35% of wing chord
August 10th 2013
Removed turbulators from stab
Added 20 in long zig-zag turbulators at 10% of mid wing chord, paralell to leading edge
Removed flap hinge seal
Removed 10 Gr / 1/3 oz tip weight
Lead out centre 1/4 in / 6 mm fwd.
Tracking ok, better than with turbulators at 35% of wing chord. Set-up list above updated
Peter Germann
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Eflite-Power 25
Castle 50 ESC
FM-9
4S 2700mAh
APC 11x5.5P
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Plane: "32" (own design..I now just number my designs)
Span: 61"
Weight: 65 oz.
Motor: AXI 2826/12
ESC: Phoenix ICE LIGHT 50
Timer: KR
Battery: Zippy Compact 5S- 3300
Prop: APC 12-6 reverse rot.
Lines: 66.5' 0.018
High-mounted wing with anhedral..fits battery under wing at CG.
Floyd Carter
Eugene, OR
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Specifications are as follows:
Airplane: 576 Ringmaster by Dee Rice and Pat Johnston.
Wing area 576
Weight ready to launch 47 oz
Electric conversion kit by Walter Umland
Motor mount by Bob Hunt (G-10 hard noise)
Motor Cobra 2820/12 KV= 970
Speed Controller eBay special 60 amp compatible with Turnigy Programming card.
Timer KR with RPMs set at 9200.
Prop APC 12 x 6 EP
Static amp draw = 32 amps.
Battery Turnigy Nano-Tec 4 cell 2650 mah
62" lines. 5.5 sec lap time.
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SHARK 45. Built from the original plans.
Weight : 60.5 oz.(RTF)
Motor. : E-Flite 32
Batt. : 5s 25c Zippy 2700 lipos
ESC : Saker 45 Timer : KR
RPM : 8600 approx.
Prop : APC 12x6 F2B pusher
Lines : 64 ft. eye to eye
Lap time : 5.2 Finish :Monokote
One of the best airplanes Ive had, very smooth and grooves well.
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My own design using Bob Hunt's "Caprice" foam wing and moments
Wing Span = 51" (equal panels)
ESP = ICE 50
Motor = Exceed Rocket 3020-860
Timer = Will Hubin FM2a with remote RPM pot and Start Button
Controls = Tom Morris System
Prop = 11x5.5 electric pusher
Lines = 60' eye to eye
Flying Weight = 54 oz.
Lap time = 5.3 sec
Covering = Ultracote
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I built this electric Ringmaster 150 from one of Pat King's (patdk@aol.com) laser cut kits.
Pat's kit comes with plans for either IC engine or an electric motor power.
Motor = Turnigy C2826 1350 KV (from hobbyking.com)
ESC = Castle Creations Phoenix 25 Amp
Timer = Will Hubin FM9 (whubin@kent.edu)
Prop = APC light Electric 7 x 5 pusher
Battery = 3 cell 750 mah (Rhino brand from hobbyking.com)
Covering = Ultracote
Flight ready weight = 8.9 oz
John - what size lines?
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Wing span 55"
Wing area 620 sq. in.
Weight 55 oz.
Mtr. Cobra 2826/10 (rear mounted)
ESC-Phoenix 45 Governor High mode
Timer-Hubin FM-9
Batt. Turnigy nano-tech 4S3300
Prop-APC 13x4.5EP cut to 12" dia.
Lines-63 ft. eye to eye, .015 dia.
Lap time-5.2 sec. (mtr. RPM 9600)
Flight time 5 min. 35 sec.
Uses about 2200 mah per flight
Set-Up has done well on the contest circuit
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This model was scratch built from my own plans for CL Profile scale event
96" span
72" long
850 Square inches, wing area
E-Flite E-25 brushless outrunner electric motors
Hobby Lobby E-RC 45 amp speed controls
Hobby King Zippy 4S batteries, 3000 Mah
13 lbs ready to fly
Foam wing with balsa skins
1/16 balsa fuselage sides with stick structure underneath skins
Fiberglass and Lustre Kote aluminum paint
Throttle control is done with 2.4 Ghz, Tactic 650 transmitter and TR624 reciever
The #4 motor has the BEC active and powers the receiver that is housed in the fuselage
The #1, #2 and #3 motors have the BEC deactivated
Model flies on 60 foot lines with a traditional stunt handle, the 2.4 Ghz transmitter hangs on my hip and controls the throttle
This model was first flown in June of 2013 and took 1st place at the 2013 Nationals in Muncie in CL Profile Scale
Fred Cronenwett
Manchester, MO
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This model is a bastardized Forerunner design scratch built up fuselage and a Sig Mustang Stunter wing. Fuse has 1/2" added to nose to accommodate battery and 1-1/16" added to tail moment to keep proportions to Forerunner design. Tail is scratch built to Forerunner plans with elevator/stab tips modified to resemble wing tips.
Span = 50"
Wing Area = 480 sq. in.
Weight = 57 oz
Motor = Exceed Rocket 3020-860
ESC = Castle Creation Phoenix Ice Lite 50
Batteries = 3000 4S
Timer = Hubin FM9
Prop = 11 x 5.5 Pusher
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52 inch wingspan
Built up fully sheeted wing
Everything covered with .2oz carbon
40 oz < battery
48 oz ready to fly
APC thin electric 11-5.5 pusher prop Dennis Adamisin dadamisin@yahoo.com
Motor E-Flite Power 15 Bob Hunt might have these or Amazon.com
ESC Phoenix ICE 50 lite I buy these on Amazon.com
Timer Hubin FM9 Direct from Will Hubin whubin@kent.edu
Safety switch Maxx Products 6970 I buy these on Amazon.com
Battery Hyperion 4S CXG3 25C 2500ma Tom Morris supplied this to me.
Flying on 62 foot .015 eyelet to eyelet (Thinking about cutting to 60 feet.)
Timer set for 5:17 flight time
Using <1800 amps
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Crossfire
E-Flight 25
ESC Phoenix 45
timer Hubin FM-9
Prop. APC 12x6 EP
True-turn Turbo spinner
Bob Hunt front mount
Battery 4c 14.8v zippy 3000 mAh
65' lines
8975 RPM
Flight time 5 1/2 min.
lap time 5.2
AS of now
E-Flight 32
Battery Thunder Power 2250mAh 5cell 45c and 2700mAh 5cell 25c
10650 RPM
3 blade Cox & Resinger Pusher 11x5.5 (green)
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Pat King Ringmaster Trainer IIE
Arrowind 2815/09
Castle Creations Ice Lite 50 ESC
Hubin FM-9 Timer
4S 2200 battery
9 x 6 EP prop
RPM setting 10,000
60' x .018 lines
1.2 oz wing weight
Really docile trainer for new flyer. Builds in a few hours. I left it clear to make repairs easier but it is robust.
Joe
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Flew it first time this weekend.
Top Flite ARF Nobler;
Tom Morris controls
Exceed Rocket 3015
Castle Creations Phoenix Edge 50 ESC
Hubin FM-9 timer
4S 2200 Battery
10x4.8 APC ER pusher prop
RPM setting 10,156
60' x .015" lines
Needs a little more trim. Only 4 flights on it under fairly windy conditions but flies like I remember my old green box Nobler did in 1960.
Joe
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Forerunner Gen2
Built from Custom Models kit plans
1/2" added to nose
Built up profile fuselage
Built up empennage
Bob Hunt triple cored wing
Tom Morris controls
Scorpian SII 3020-890 motor
3300 4S Lipo
Castle Creations Edge Lite 50 ESC
Hubin FM-9 timer
APC 11 x 5.5 EP
RPM setting 10200
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A shortcut for absolute beginners and aerobatics practice:
Airplane Gee Bee 1000 R/C 3-D Kit, EPP, modified
Span 39.3 in (1000 mm)
Landing gear 3 ½ in (90 mm) fwd. (for grass ops)
Weight 29.5 oz (835 Gr.)
Elevator throw +/- 35°
Flaps throw +/- 20°
C.G. 2.4 in (60 mm) from wing l.e.
Leadout center 3.34 in (85 mm) from wing l.e.
Lines 0.012 in x 49 ft (0.3 mm x 15 m)
Motor 2214/1400 1400 RPM/Volt 14 poles
Propeller APC 10 x 5.8 EP F2B
ESC Castle Phoenix Edge Lite 50 A
ESC Mode Control Line, Governor high
Timer Hubin FM-9
Battery 2200 mAh 3S
Beginner setup Take-off from ground and level flight only
Handle spacing 3 in (75 mm)
RPM 7300
Speed 7.5 sec / lap
Duration 1:00 min
Number of flights 8 per one full charge
F2B practice setup All manoeuvres
RPM 9624
Speed 5.0 sec / lap
Duration 4:00 min (max.)
Consumption 1850 mAh (85%)
Number of flights 1 per one full charge
Remark: Do not flyin wind.
Peter Germann
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Wing span: 59 Area: 665
Weight: 65 oz
Motor: E-flite 32
ESC: ZTW 50 amp
Governor/timer: KR
Battery: Zippy Compact 5S 2700
Prop: 12X6 F2B
Lines: 65
Lap time: 5.25
RPM: 8800 Gain 6
Battery usage: 2000 ma
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Legacy Brodak
Wing span: 59”
Area: 687
Weight: 70 oz
Motor: Hextronik 4250 - 650kV - 1250W
ESC: Castle ICE 50
Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - www.metaenergia.com.br
Battery: AsPec Turnigy 5S - 2200mA - 65C
Prop: 13X5 - 3 blade - JXF
Lines: 64 ft
Lap time: 6.0
RPM: 8300 flat / 9200 stunt
Battery usage: 1900 ma
Flight time: 5 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHWmX0TrG5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKjPMJ_04s
Rogerio Fiorotti
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Thanks for posting the video and your set up. H^^
Just a bit curious what 13x5 3-blade you're using?
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Dear Joe
I'm using the propeller JXF, but switched to 13X6.5 Carbon where I got better results.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=25693
Regards
Rogerio Fiorotti
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Airplane: Fireshark II (modif)
T/O weight: 67.3 oz or 1910 Grams
Area (Wing & flaps): 694 sq.in or 44.7 dm2
Wing airfoil: NACA 0018 modif. max. 2.32 in or 59 mm. 8 mm (5/16") flatplate flaps
Empennage airfoil: NACA 0012 max. 0.8 in or 20 mm. Elevators integrated
Stabilizer A.o.A.: +/- 0°
Motor thrust axis, vertical: +/- 0°
Motor axis above wing c.l.: 0.8 in or 20 mm
Stabilizer c.l. above wing c.l.: 1.8 in. or 45 mm
Rudder: Neutral, not adjuststable
Power Train
Motor: AXI 2826/12 760 Kv with cooling fan COOL1
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix Edge lite 75 A Firmware V 4.19 (Beta)
Mode: Control Line / brake on 90%, high governing mode, auto-lipo off. Cutoff set to 15.0V
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Battery: Thunder Power Pro Force G8 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark protection: Jeti 4 mm female on + of batteries.
Propeller: APC 13 x 5.5 EP (Pusher)
Flight Setup & Trim, 17°C, calm
Date: October 2015
C.G.: 7.2 in or 183 mm from hingeline fwd.
Leadout Center: 1.26 in or 32 mm. rear of C.G. 5.9 in or 151 mm from hingeline fwd.
Tip weight: Outer tip 1.2 oz or 34 Grams heavier
Elevators / Flaps throw: +/- 45° / +/- 45°
Elevator trim: none
Hinge seal: none
Nose trim weight: 0
Tail trim weight: 0
Lines: 0.015 x 64 ft or 19.5 m (eye-eye)
Delay: 30 sec
RPM set: 9'154
Max controller temp. logged: 63 °C
Laptime: 5.3 sec
Motor runtime set: 515
Battery recharge: 2'050 mAh
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Airplane: Misfit (kit-bashed Tower Uproar)
T/O weight: 58 oz
Area (Wing & flaps): 651 sq.in
Wing loading: 12.9 oz/sq ft
Power Train
Motor: Arrowind 2832-05 960 kV
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix Ice Lite 75 A Firmware V V 3.27
Mode Control Line, high governing mode, brake disabled
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Battery LiPo: Zippy 2700 mah 25C 4cell
Propeller: APC 12x6 EP (Pusher)
Lines: 0.018 x 60 ft
RPM: 9092 set on Hubin; 9155 measured in air (data logger)
Laptime: 5.2 sec
Motor runtime set: 3'0" (trim flights)
Peak current logged: 33.1A
Consumption 1.24 Ah over 3 min (~413 mAh/min)
Expect 5 min flights to use 77% capacity of 2700 mAh packs
** Edit **
2700 mAh packs can only run 4 minutes max. Went to 5 cell 3700 mAh; 5 minutes leaves the packs at 40%, 3.82v/cell.
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Airplane: Patrouille Suisse-1 E (a Cardinal 92 derivate)
Built : December 2000 for Jet .61 on pipe. T/O weight with 3/4 fuel 70 oz or 1985Gr
Converted to E: March 2014
T/O weight: 69 oz or 1959 Grams
Area (Wing & flaps): Cardinal 92
Wing airfoil: Cardinal 92, blunt nose modif.
Empennage airfoil: Cardinal 92
Stabilizer A.o.A.: +/- 0°
Motor thrust angle: +/- 0°
Motor axis above wing c.l.: Cardinal 92
Stabilizer c.l. above wing c.l.: Cardinal 92
Rudder: Neutral, not adjuststable
Power Train
Motor: AXI 2826/12 760 Kv
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix ICE lite 75 A Firmware V 4.19 (Beta)
Mode: Control Line / brake on, high governing mode, auto-lipo off. Cutoff set to 15.0V
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Programmer: Hubin in Phoenix New High Mode
Battery LiPo: Thunder Power Pro Force G8 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark protection: Jeti 4 mm female on + of batteries.
Propeller: APC 13 x 5.5 EP (Pusher)
Trim
C.G.: 7.6 in or 192 mm from hingeline fwd
Leadout Center: 1.57 in or 40 mm. rear of C.G.
Tip weight: Outer tip 2 oz or 55 Grams heavier
Elevators / Flaps throw: 40° / 40°
Hinge seal: Flaps
Nose trim weight: 0
Tail trim weight: 0
Battery trim posistion: Middle
Lines: 0.38 mm (0.015 in) x 19.5 m (64 ft) (Eye-eye)
RPM: 9'216 RPM
Laptime: 5.4 sec
Motor runtime set: 530
Battery idle voltage after ldg.: 18.66 V or 3.73 V/cell (w/o load, battery has 45 cycles)
Battery re-charge: 2000 mAh
March 30 2014 Peter Germann
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Brodak Tomahawk
Exceed Rocket 3015 motor
Gens Ace 4S 1800 Lipo
Castle Creations Phoenix Ice Lite 50 ESC
Hubin FM9 Timer
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57" wingspan
63 oz.
Eflite 25 motor
11.5x6 APCEP f2b prop
Thunder Power ProLite 3300 mah battery
Castle Ice 50 ESC
Hubin FM retract timer
Eflite 15-25 size retracts
64'/ .015 lines
9830 rpm (hi gov. setting)
Governor gain @ 42
5.1/5.2 sec. lap
27% left in battery after 5.25 min. flight
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54" wingspan
46 oz.
60' lines
APCEP 11.25*6 f2b prop(cut down 12*6)
Eflite 25
Thunder Power 2700 mah battery
Castle 45 ESC
Hubin FM9 timer
8470 rpm
5.3 sec. Lap(wind 10-15 mph)
using 1663 mah avg.
5.30 min. flight time
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Be Bop Delux - My own design converted to electric.
Wing area - 430 sq in.
Weight - 37 oz. with battery
Prop - APC E 9x4.5
Brodak Electric Super Clown system
Motor - Arrowind 2815/09 1300kv
ESC - Arrowind 35a
Battery - Arrowind 3300mAH, 11.1 V 3s1p
Timer - Hubin FM-Oc
Set at max time & max power for now
Lines - 60 eye to eye .015
Lap time 5 to 5.1 sec
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Guys with ECL Orientals with built up fuse; could you please post or send photos of the setup?
I am converting and it is my FIRST.
Thanks in advance.
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Guys with ECL Orientals with built up fuse; could you please post or send photos of the setup?
I am converting and it is my FIRST.
Thanks in advance.
David,
This thread is for those who already have their set up working. Please post your questions in the Electric Forum. Thanks.
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49" - Wing Span
510 sq in - Wing Area
Weight - 48 oz with Battery
Battery - 3300 mah, 30C, 4S, 14.8V
Motor - Arrowind 2832/05 Outrunner
ESC- Arrowind 40A
Timer - Huber FM-0C
Prop - 10/7
Brodack bolt on electric motor mount
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Airplane Crossfire (by Bob Hunt)
T/O weight: 62.8 oz or 1779 Grams
Area (Wing & flaps): 694 sq.in or 44.7 dm2
Span: 1540 mm (60.6 in)
Wing airfoil: NACA 0018 max.thickness 2.32 in or 59 mm. & flatplate flaps 8 mm or 0.3 in
Flaps hingeline sweep: none, straight
Hingeline-hingeline: 485 mm or 19.1 in
Empennage airfoil: NACA 0012 max. thickness 0.75 in or 19 mm. Elevators integrated
Stabilizer A.o.A.: +/- 0°
Motor thrust angle: +/- 0°
Motor side thrust: 1° out
Nose length: 275 mm or 10.8 in Backplate leading edge (at wing centre)
Motor axis above wing c.l.: 0.8 in or 20 mm
Stabilizer c.l. above wing c.l.: 1.8 in. or 45 mm
Rudder: Neutral, not adjuststable
Graphics design: Claus Maikis
Power Train
Motor: AXI 2826/12 760 Kv & cooling fan COOL1
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix Edge lite 75 A Firmware V 4.22 final
Mode Control Line / high governing mode, auto-lipo off. Cutoff set to 15.0V
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Battery LiPo: Thunder Power Magna 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark protection: Jeti 4 mm female on + of batteries.
Propeller: APC 12 x 6 EP (Pusher)
Trim July 11th 2016 28°C calm
C.G.: 7.32 in or 186 mm from hingeline fwd.
Leadout Center: 1.57 in or 36 mm. rear of C.G.
Tip weight: Outer tip 0.95 oz or 27 Grams heavier
Elevators / Flaps throw: 35° / 35°
Hinge seal: none
Nose trim weight: 0
Tail trim weight: 0
Lines: 0.015 x 64 ft or 0.4 mm x 19.5 m (eye-eye)
Brake: 100%, 0.6 sec delay, slow ramp
RPM set: 9'795
RPM logged: 9'558
Speed: 5.1 sec / Lap
Motor run time: 5'20"
Max. Watts: 582
Peak Current: 32 A
Max. Power out: 88%
Re-charge: 1'950 mAh
Min. Voltage under load after clover: 18.0 V or 3.6 V/cell
November 9th 2017 Update:
In its July 2016 configuration the airplane, while being a competitive flyer, kept making it difficult for me to accurately maintain 5 ft altitude in inverted flight. Aerodynamic modifications, such as sanding the stabilizer leading edge really sharp and/or installing turbulators at various positions, did not help. From meanwhile experience made with my Fiat C.29 (list your setup, reply 179, update from Nov. 9 2017) I suspected the inverted flight instability having something to do with the combination of conventional (motor & empennage above wing centerline and 0° thrust axis) fuselage layout and (pusher) propeller sense of rotation.
Without any further change to the trimmed airplane I then changed the APC 12 x 6 EP prop to its tractor version 12 x 6 E, running at the same RPM. While slightly reducing line tension at unassisted take-off from hard surface and in outside loops/corners, the change has eliminated the altitude holding problem in inverted flight.
June 14th 2018 Update
For to furter improve corner and overhead linepull I have sealed the flaps and I now use a lightweight wooden 2-blade 13 x 6 tractor prop.
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I love the looks of the paint scheme and the colors. Also the reversed canopy is different. You left out the wheel sizes and weight thought(just kidding). A lot of info for one airplane. Hope it flies as well as it looks. H^^
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Coroplast Cox PT-19 replica:
99 sq.in
11 ounces
EMAX 28-22
GForce 3S 800mAh
HobbyWing SkyWalker 20A esc
APC 7x4E
Generic 6 channel DSM2 RX driven by a surplus eFlight Blade micro heli Tx
37 Spectra 20# lines (because thats the handle that was on the table at the time)
Speed: varied during flight from full to 1/3 throttle
7 min averaged 440 mAh discharged
Flies just like the Cox PT-19 it was designed by Keith Morgan to emulate, smooth and docile. Great beginners plane.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d26/batjac/DSCN3101_zps4blzdvjk.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/batjac/media/DSCN3101_zps4blzdvjk.jpg.html)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d26/batjac/DSCN3121_zpsysczucuo.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/batjac/media/DSCN3121_zpsysczucuo.jpg.html)
Mark
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Wingspan 53.75"
Wing Area 565 sq.in.
Weight 51 oz.
Lines 62'/.015
Battery Thunder Power G8 Pro Lite 4s 2700mah 25C
Motor Cobra 2820/14 840 kv
ESC Castle Creations Phoenix 45(set in hi gov. mode)
Timer Hubin FM9
Prop APC EP 11.5x6(cutdown 12x6)f2b
RPM 9260 rpm@timer
Gov gain 38
Lap Time 5.25 sec
Flight Time 5.20 min. w/ 6 laps to spare
Battery use 1900 mah avg.use to full recharge
Lotsa pics! Here are a few shots of the top mount battery install. Nylon 1/4 28 bolts used to hold a 1/8" ply plate on top of the battery. The top hatch uses 2 neodeum magnets at the rear and a 1/8" music wire at the front. A piece of brass tube is cemented to the front of the plane where the 1/8" music wire inserts. I like using Anderson Power pole connectors they come apart easier than Dean connectors and are accessable from the bottom of the plane for quick service.
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Thanks Bob.
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This original design called "COLIBRI" (Hummingbird).
Span: 56"
Weight: 52 oz. RTF
Motor: Hacker A30-XL
Control: Hacker X-55-SB (55 Amp)
Battery: Zippy Compact 5S- 2700 mAh
Prop: APC electric 12-6 (cut to 11.5")
Timer: Hubin
Lines: 65" X 0.015
For ease of building, using a set of Brodak Cardinal wing ribs, spaced equally. Finish is Polyspan and Brodak dope. Red dye mixed into clear dope for wings, etc.
******* Plans are available. Contact me for details. *****
Floyd Carter
Eugene, OR
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This P-40 stunter was built from plans by Pat Johnston, with a few changes for electric conversion.
Span: 59"
weight RTF 57 oz.
Motor: Black Tiger 700W. set to 9000 RPM (from RSM Dist.)
Controller: ZTW 65Amp. (from RSM Dist.)
Timer: KR V.2
Prop: 12-6 E-prop cut to 11.25"
Lines: 0.015 X 65'
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This Blue Max Eternal, RSM kit
Span: 60"
Weigth: 61oz.
Wing Area: 679 sq. in.
Motor: Hyperion HP-Z3025-10 - 775kV - 1150W
ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite
Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer
Prop: 12X5N - Igor Burger
Lines: 0.018 X 64"
Battery: Thunder Power Lite 2700mA - 25C - 5S
Lap time: 5.2 sec.
Flight Time 5.10 min.
Battery use: 2100mAH
(http://)
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Magician RTF
This is the plane that is offered by the RSM Distribution Company; it comes ready to fly with all electric components installed and is the take apart version.
Wingspan: 48.5 inches
Wing area: 488 square inches
Weight RTF: 40 ounces
Motor: RSM Black Tiger 3536C, 1400 kV
45A ESC, provided by RSM
KR Compact Governor Manager version 2P This device manages flight time, RPM, governor gain, and motor start delay. The included programming enables me to change all these parameters.
3300 mAh 3S 30C DBY battery
APC 10 x 5 pusher prop
.015 x 60 ft lines eyelet to eyelet
10150 RPM (as I got it from RSM, it was about 9750 RPM but I wanted to make it fly faster).
Lap time: 5.1 seconds
With this setup, it is possible to fly for 6 minutes with about 20 percent battery capacity left (as measured with my battery checker).
Below is a link to a video showing the plane performing basic maneuvers.
http://youtu.be/V0NjElqvdFk
Here are some photos of the electric system installation
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2015 Brodak Legacy Modified ARF: (updated Sept 26, 2021)
Electric conversion:
- Bob Hunts hard nose mount
- Dual support struts
- 1.75 degree out thrust offset
Specs:
- Wing Span: 59 3/8
- Wing Area: 687 sq in
- Weight: 50.55 oz (no batt) 61.5 oz (with batt)
- CG: 3.5" from LE
Power Package:
- Motor: Bad-Ass BA 3515-710KV
- ESC: Jeti 66
- Timer: Igors iAcc version: 2.3
- Battery: Thunder Power / Pro-Lite+ 5S 2700 25C (10.85 oz)
Jeti 66 ESC settings:
- Min rpm: 7000
- Max rpm: 10,900 (Temp: 26C-28C degree / Humidity: Approx 80%)
- Target : 152
- Sensitivity: 20 - 70
Prop:
- Igor's CF 12x5N (hollow) 3-blade
Control system:
- Tom Morris bellcrank (Brett Buck style) with down line forward
- CF push rods / HD rocket city ball links
- Custom flaps & adjustable elev horn
Aerodynamics Tweaks:
- Vortex Generators 4 pcs.
- Custom zig-zag turbulator strips on Wing & Stab
Lines:
- 68' C>C .016" 4 strand /Carbon Steel brass type
Handle:
- ARK mfg. custom CF hard point
- Line spacing 4.33"
- Overhang 1.18" (equal up/dn)
Lap Speed: 5.35
Flight Time: 5:15
Delay: .30 sec
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYnNRKDY/20190808-095528.jpg)
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Joe,
What RPM are you turning with the 11x5 3 blade?
Thanks,
Jason
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Joe,
What RPM are you turning with the 11x5 3 blade?
Thanks,
Jason
Hi Jason,
The rpm is 9624 on the FM-9 programmer for 5.35. But it's not the actual rpm from the prop. I believe its about 650-700rpm or so higher, close to around 10.300.
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This Thunder Gazer - by David Fitzgerald - RSM kit
Builder Fred Cesquim
Span: 60-3/4"
Weigth: 63,1oz.
Wing Area: 630 sq. in.
Motor: Hyperion HP-Z3025-10 - 775kV - 1150W
ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite
Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer
Prop: 12X5N - Igor Burger
Lines: 0.018 X 64"
Battery: Hyperion HV 2800mA - 30C/60C - 5S
Lap time: 5.15 sec.
Flight Time 5.10 min.
Battery use: 2000mAH
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Glad to finally be able to post here.
Brodak Cardinal ARC assembled in 2006, originally had a ST46 on it. Converted to electric Feb 2016.
Weight: 49oz
Wing area: 579 sq in
Motor: Emax GT2820 985kv
ESC: Turnigy Trust 55A
Timer: KR2 Governor Timer
Prop: Hobbyking 11.5x5.5 pusher (APC copy)
Lines: 63ft .015
Battery: Rhino 4S 3000mah 30c (AliExpress)
Lap time: About 5 seconds
Flight time: 5 minutes
Battery used: 2000mah
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Type: Symmetria II
Design: Based on Bob Hunts Crossfire, modified.
Built: Peter Germann
Specifications, updated November 3 2016
Span: 57.9 in.
Area (wing incl. flaps): 683 sq.in.
Wing airfoil: NACA 0019 d max 2.48 in. Nose radius 5/16.
Flaps: Flat plate 5/16 square TE
Empennage airfoil : NACA 0012 d max 0.7 in. Stabilizer nose radius 0.018
Elevator: TE radius 1/16
Spinner backplate to wing LE: 10.6 in
Hingeline to hingeline: 19
Stabilizer AoA: 0°
Motor thrust axis: 0°
Motor thrust axis above wing CL: 0
Empennage CL above wing CL : 0
Bellcrank installation: up line rear
Motor: Hacker A40-14SV2 610 RPM/Volt
Rotation: Reverse
Battery:Thunder Power Magna 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark supressing: Jeti 4 mm
Landing gear: Fuselage installed, retractable
Gear servos (2): e-flite EFLG 101
Timer: Hubin FM-9 LG
Programmer: Hubin FM-9 LG
Speed Controller: Phoenix Edge lite 75 A Firmw. V 4.22 & C. Link V3.63.00
Mode: Governor high
Gain: Normal (25)
T/O weight: 1'854 Gr./ 65.4 oz
Flaps / elevator ratio and max. deflection: 1 : 1 45° / 45°
Elevator trim: 0
C.G.: 7.63 in from hingeline fwd. (18% MAC)
Leadout center: 1.2 in rear of C.G.
Tip weight: 0.8 oz
Lines: 0.015" x 64 ft (0.4 mm x 19.5 m)
Propeller: APC 12 x 6 EP
RPM set: 9'570
RPM logged: 9'300
Speed: 5.2 sec/lap
Max. Power out: 88 %
Min. in flight voltage:17.7 V
t max. ESC: 40°C
Re-charge 1'850 mAh
June 10 2016:
Crash due to loss of prop blade in corner, followed by immediate disintegration of nose section.
November 3 2016:
Nose rebuilt, gained 44 Grams. RPM/Volt changed to 610 (was 510). Flies fine, no e-hunt tendency, very quiet. Above specs adjusted
September 26 2017:
Flying in dead, calm air and insufficient stepping back out of wake turbulence; airplane destroyed.
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Type Symmetria
Design Based on Bob Hunts Crossfire, modified.
Built Peter Germann
Specifications
Span 57.9 in.
Area (wing incl. flaps) 683 sq.in.
Wing airfoil NACA 0019 d max 2.48 in. Nose radius 5/16.
Flaps Flat plate 5/16 square TE
Empennage airfoil NACA 0012 d max 0.7 in. Stabilizer nose radius 1/64
Elevator TE radius 1/16
Spinner backplate to wing LE 10.3 in
Hingeline to hingeline 19
Stabilizer AoA +/- 0°
Motor thrust axis +/- 0°
Motor thrust axis above wing CL 0
Empennage CL above wing CL 0
Motor Hacker A40-14SV2 520 RPM/Volt
Battery Thunder Power G8 Pro Force 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark supressing Jeti 4 mm
Landing gear Monowheel, retractable
Gear servo e-flite EFLG 101
Timer Hubin FM-9 Retract
Programmer Hubin FM-9 LG
Speed Controller Phoenix Edge lite 75 A Firmw. V 4.20 (Beta) & C. Link V3.57.01
T/O weight 60.9 oz
Bench Trim Setup February 25 2016
Flaps / elevator rati0 and max. deflection 0.85 : 1 32° / 37.5°
C.G. 7.32 in from hingeline fwd. (approx. 18% MAC)
Tip weight 1 Ό oz
Propeller AeroNaut CAM carbon light 13 x 6 L (Pusher)
Cool!
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This Max Bee, Igor Burger kit
Weigth: 59.5oz.
Motor: Hyperion HP-Z3025-10 - 775kV - 1150W
ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite
Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer
Nose up 4-2-4 = 5
Sensitivity = 12
Max RPM Limit = 40%
Min RPM Limit = 90%
Prop: 12X5N - Igor Burger
Lines: 0.018 X 64"
Battery: Hyperion HV 2800mA - 30C - 5S
Lap time: 5.15 sec.
Flight Time 5.10 min.
Battery use: 1980mAH
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Murcielago from Christoph Holtermann, Germany
Trim and settings at WC 2016 in Perth:
Weight: 1718g or 60.2 oz
Span: 154 cm or 60.6"
Wing area: approx. 41 dm2 or 635sq."
Motor: Kontronik Kora 15-16: 690 rpm/V; 151g or 5.3 oz; diam. 41mm or 1.65" integrated fan, supplemental from bearing
Prop: Mejzlik 11 x 5.5, carbon 3 blade
flight rpm estimated 10,500 1/min
Timer: currently Active timer from Igor Burger
ESC: Jeti Spin 66
Lines: 0.015", 19,5m or 64' (eyelet-eyelet)
Battery: 6s 2200 mAh 45C, weight 350g or 12.27oz
Lap time: 5.2 sec/lap
Battery consumption approx. 1850 mAh per 5:10 min motor run time
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I have one baby ringer with the following:
Scorpion 2205/1585KV motor
APC 6 x 4 pusher prop
Rhino 610 mAh 3s
Arrowind 12A ESC nongoverning
Hubin FM-0c timer factory preset to a 7 second delay before the system starts, full throttle, and 3 min flight
7.9 oz AUW
This gives me a 3.3 second lap on 35 ft lines. It goes through wingovers wonderfully and loops well but in lazy eights it does slow down a bit.
I am about to finish another baby ringer. This one will have a 2205/1900KV motor for more speed and thrust. The same type of ESC and timer will be used.
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This CHUPIM 60 KIT - by OSNI LEME - SERITEC
Builder OSNI LEME
Motor: Cobra 3520/14 - 700 kV
ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite
Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer
Prop: APC 13X4,5 P
Lines: 0.018 x 18,5 m
Battery: Zippy Compact 2700mA - 25C- 5S
Lap time: 5.2 sec.
Flight Time 5.10 min.
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Airframe:
Jr. Flite Streak (Brodak)
Span 31"
Area 230sq.in
Weight 19.9oz RTF with battery
Wing loading 12.5oz/sq.ft
Silk/Dope finish
Power plant:
Motor: Turnigy SK3-2836-1500; 1500rpm/V; 0.65A no-load; 0.026 Ohms.
Battery: Turnigy NanoTech (45C); 3 cells; 1800mAh
Speed Control: Castle Creations Talon 35
Prop: APC 8x6E
Timer: Hubin FM-9
Settings:
RPM set at 11660 to get actual 10440
Current: 22.7A peak
Watts: 243.5W
Power Loading: 205 W/lb
Flight time: 4 min leaves battery at 3.75 v/cell (23%).
Lap time: 4.1 sec on 52' lines (good for Flite Streak style of flying; any slower and it's loose overhead).
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Ultra Hobby Gieseke Nobler Component Kit converted to electric.
Arrowind 2820/07 motor
Arrowind 40A ESC
FM-Oc Rem Hubin Timer
4 Cell 3300 mAh battery
Graphics by Avaiojet
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Here is the result of my attempt to build a fixed gear airplane specificly laid out for pusher prop use. Reason was that I have repeatedly experienced difficulties (e-hunting) trimming conventionally laid out airplanes for stable tracking in level- and inverted flight while being flown with pusher props. "Conventionally" meaning motor and empennage 1 or 1 1/2 in above the wing centerline. Wishing to maintain the very noticeably positive effect on line tension of the pusher propeller in outside turns and in the upper segment of the hourglass manoeuvre, switching back to tractor props was not really an option...
In an attempt to compensate level/inverted flight disturbance forces resulting from the propeller/spinner/rotor assy. rotating clockwise (Pusher) and affecting tracking stability in level and inverted flight, I have adjusted the vertical positions of the drive train components and the empennage accordingly. In order to do so it was first neccessary to quantify disturbance forces and compensating measures. This could not have been done without Wolfgang Nieukamp's much appreciated calculations quantifying in-flight propeller gyroscopic forces and resulting moments. From Wolfgangs findings, I have arranged those components accordingly:
- Motor vertical thrust axis angle (2.5° up)
- Motor vertical thrust axis distance from wing centerline (below 10 mm / 3/8")
- Stabilizer angle of attack (1° down)
- Rabe rudder functionality (out with elevator up)
While the dimensions of wing, empennage and the arms are borrowed from Igor's Max Bee, the fuselage was respectfully shaped in memory of the Italian Fiat C.29 1000 hp racing floatplane from the 1929's.
Findings:
The airplane tracks equally nice in horizontal and inverted flight without any e-huntig tendency. Corners and exits are solid with stable exits. Turning rates are equal. Hourglass overhead line tension is good.
Spec. sheet update:
June 2nd 2018: Flaps / Elevators set to 36° / 45°. Prop Fiala E3 Electric Pusher, Wood. 2-blade 13 x 6 at 9'240RPM and 5:20 min run time. C.G. at 183 mm / 7.2 in. Leadout centre 32 mm (1 1/4 in) rear of C.G. Handle spacing 102 mm (4in). Governor Gain set to Medium 25, timing to Castle "Low 0" and PWM rate to "Castle Outrunner". Lines 19.5 m / 65 ft) (0.4 mm / 0.015) Yatsenko brass coated,. Laptime: 5.2. Re-charge 2'300 mAh (calm)
Rgds, Peter Germann
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April 3rd: 20° C calm. No e-hunting and very noticable line-pull build up in upper loop of vert. 8 and first inside loop in clover. Sharp corner with clean exit.
June 4th 2018 26°C, calm: Fiala wood 13 x 6 E3 pusher 9'645 RPM set, 5.15 sec/lap Tighter corner with clean exit when compared to APC 13 x 5.5 EP. 2'100 mAh recharge after 5:20 flight run time on 0.015 x 64 ft. Yatsenko lines.
July 17th 2018 28°C, very light wind: 52nd from 85 at 2'018 W/C in Landres, France.
August 28th 2018 26°C, calm: APC 13 x 6.5 EP pusher at 8'400 RPM constant speed, logged, 5.2 sec/lap. Sharp corner with clean exit. Lower RPM reduces energy consumption to 1'900 mAh recharge (79%) after 5:20 flight on 0.015 x 64 ft. Yatsenko lines.
62°C ESC temp.
I have a full set of detail and assembly (metric) drawings. All are .pdf and available on request for free.
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Imitation profile from Mike Griffin and Eric Rule at RSM.
Power: Cobra 2826/12 760 kv
Battery: Thunder Power 5S 2800 Pro Lite
ESC: Castle Creations Talon 60
Timer: FM-9 profile timer from Will Hubin
Prop: APC 11 X 5.5
Flying weight: 49 ounces
Lines: .015 X 61' eyelet to eyelet w/Fancher handle
Finish: Ultrakote and Krylon paint
Still in trimming and very early flight stages, will provide more information about flight characteristics when available.
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Zero Profile based off Bill Bischoff design
49" wingspan 453 Square inches
Hobbyking film covering
naca 0016 airfoil
Cobra C-2826-EF1-SS
APC 8x8e prop
4cell 2200 battery
Cobra 80A ESC
60' .018" lines from handle to center of model
Hubin Fm-9
Throttle mode 100%
2' 15" run time
3.4 sec. lap
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REVOLUTIONS
Wing area 710 sq inches
Flying weight 58-59oz
Motor JOKER 4250-8 V3 510 KV 210g 1150W
Battery TP 6S 2800mAh
Timer IGOR ACTIVE
Prop XOAR 12X6 2B
Line length (eye to center) 68ft
Flight time 5min 30sec
Lap speed 5.4sec
mAh used 1450mAh max.
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Top Flite ARF Nobler converted from OS.35 to electric:
500 square inches area
Weight 52 oz ready to fly
60 ft center to center lines, diameter.015 in
5 min 20 seconds flight time
4.625 seconds per lap time
Motor Rimfire.32 800 kv
Battery 4 cell 2200 mAh Lipo
ESC Brodak/Hubin F2B Hornet 60 A
Timer Brodak/Hubin FM Hornet
Prop APC 11x5.5 E tractor
9660 RPM
25 Amp draw
352 Watts
Used/charged back 2000 mAh
Jerry
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Top Flite ARF Nobler, same model, as in previous post.
52 oz ready to fly
60 ft handle center to model center
5 minutes 20 seconds flight time
5 seconds per lap time
Motor Rimfire.32. 800 Kv
Battery 4 cell 2200 mah lipo
ESC Jeti Spin 66 , preset in 3D helicopter mode
Timer by Igor Burger. Thank you, Igor, instructions are very clear and user friendly!
Prop APC 11x5.5 E tractor
9750 rpm
Used/ charged back 1778 mAh.
Igors system is more efficient than Hubin/Brodak system.
Jerry
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S1 Ringmaster built from Tom Morris design kit
Cobra 2221/10. (3.2 oz.)
Cobra 33 amp esc (1.75 oz.)
Fm9 timer
Hyperion 3S 1800 mah (4.2 oz.)
ASP 9x6 EP
Total Weight ready to fly-25 oz.
0.12x56 ft. Lines
Great flying RM at this weight- ( Thanks Tom!)
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PointsFinder EP
Based on a Pathfinder wing and stab, Starfinder wing and stab tips, and a Resolve EP fuse profile.
620 sq in wing area
54.0 oz ready to launch
Cobra 3515 Kv740 motor
Talon 35 ESC set to "insensitive"
Hubin FM-9 timer
Zippy Compact 5S 3000 Lipo
APC thin electric pusher 13x5.5 cut down to 11.5.
5.2 second lap time
.015x60' eye to eye.
2,000 mah used (estimated at this time)
"zero zero" with +1/2* upthrust, 2 1/2* right thrust, about 3/32 right rudder initial setup.
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Like those control horns!
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Primary force (Mikey Pratt design/kit)
502 sq. in. wing
Brodak RM conversion Battery box
Arrowind 2809/15 motor, APC 11x5.5 cut down to 10 3/4"
Castle Talon 35 ESC
ThunderPower 4S 2200 mah lipo
Hubin FM-9 Timer (5min. 25 sec. flight time) 25% battery cap. left
ready to fly weight trimed out=38 oz.
58 ft. 0.012 lines, 5.3 lap
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Otto the Giro from Dick Mathis plans
32 1/2oz
Cobra 2820/14 840Kv
Generic eBay 40A ESC
Zippy Compact 4S 2200 lipo
APC 10/6 electric pusher
Open source CL timer
Rustoleum rattle can finish
Yet unflown due to weather
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I am behind in listing my setup. Currently, my setup is:
Somewhat modified Impact (Predator in sheep's clothing) with Igor nonlinear flap mechanism
Plettenberg 20-16 motor
Thunder Power Prolitex 6s 2800 mAhr battery
Jeti Spin 66 controller
Igor active timer
Tim's Universal Timer (TUT) to provide supplementary modes
Battery Indicating and Crew Alerting System (BICAS)
Igor 12" prop, traditional rotation direction
Homemade carbon battery rails
Homemade motor mount
Homemade spinner
Homemade carbon landing gear
Homemade handle
Zigzag boundary layer trip strips
Cage-free artisanal vortex generators
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Modified Eratix 3D Plane
This plane was originally posted with a different setup, but since I snapped the outboard wing off. I will list the changes that made it work this time.
Weight: 66oz
Motor: Rimfire 42-50-800kv
ESC: Castle Creations Ice 50
Timer: Hubin FM-2A
Prop: APC e-prop 12.75 x 4.5
Lines: .015 x 63.5 Eye 2 Eye
What battery are you using? I have a motor the same size and KV by HobbyStar. I am probably going to run 5 cells.
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S1 Sterling Ringmaster
33oz with a BadAss 2320 820kV motor on a Thunder Power 5S - 1350mah ProLite pack. ESC is a Castle Creation 35A Talon, timer ZTron. I run an APCE P - 8 1/2x6 3/4 prop (cut down and pitched up APCE P 9x6) at 9650 rpm, on 60' FINS 40G 45LB Test (C to C) Spectra lines, 4.75 sec lap time. This setup save about 1 3/4oz over the commonly use 1800 - 2200 packs. The FINS 40G Spectra lines are very low drag and saved 4% battery capacity compared to 0.012" stainless steel cable that would be used with this size/wt ship
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S1 Sterling Ringmaster
33oz with a BadAss 2320 820kV motor on a Thunder Power 5S - 1350mah ProLite pack. I run an APCE P - 8 1/2x6 3/4 prop (cut down and pitched up APCE P 9x6) at 9650 rpm, on 60' FINS 40G 45LB Test (C to C) Spectra lines, 4.75 sec lap time. This setup save about 1 3/4oz over the commonly use 1800 - 2200 packs. The FINS 40G Spectra lines are very low drag and saved 4% battery capacity compared to 0.012" stainless steel cable that would be used with this size/wt ship
Den,
ESC? Timer?
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Circulas 46 IIe Profile by Dennis Nunes
Motor: BadAss 3515-710 Kv Front Mounted
ESC: Castle Creations Talon 60
Brake:
Brake Strength 100% (Hard)
Brake Delay .6 sec (Delayed) (Default)
Brake Ramp Very Fast
Cutoffs:
Cutoff Voltage Auto Li-Po (Default)
Auto-Lipo Volts/Cell 3.2 Volts/Cell (Default)
Voltage Cutoff Type Hard Cutoff
Current Limiting Normal (Default)
Current Cutoff Type Soft Cutoff (Default)
Motor:
Motor Start Power High (100)
Motor Timing Custom (4)
Direction Forward (Default)
PWM Rate 8 Khz
Other:
Power-On Beep Enabled (Default)
Link Live Enable Disabled (Default)
BEC Voltage 6.0V (Default)
Software:
Device Name Talon 60 (F541)
Current Firmware V 4.25
Timer: Hubin FM-9 w/Onboard On/Off Switch
Start Delay: 30 Seconds
RPM: 9,996
Flight Time: 5'30"
Battery: Thunder Power 6S 2800 mAh, XT connector
Plane Specifications:
Wingspan: 56.25"
Wing Area: 580 sq. in.
Nose Length: 11"
Flap to Elevator Hinge Line: 18"
Weight w/Battery: 67.5 oz.
Full Length 1/2" High Elevator Wedges
Full Length 0.010" Thick Trip Strips on Wing and Stabilizer
Other Information:
Prop: Igor 12x5N 3-Blade Carbon Fiber
Lines: .018" x 63' 7-Strand Stainless Steel
Handle: Cox/Resinger Carbon Fiber
For further information on the construction and design of Circulas 46 IIe go to the Flying Lines website: http://flyinglines.org/nunes.circulas46lle.html (http://flyinglines.org/nunes.circulas46lle.html)
Dennis
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Model Top Flite ARF Nobler
Engine Cobra 2826/12
ESC ZTW Mantis 40A
Timer KR Governor
Battery Hyperion Graphene G8 4S 2800mA (with HvLi charge)
Battery weight 242 (8.5oz)
lines 18Mts (60ft)
Prop APC 11x5.5 E
Flight Weight 1400 gr (49.3)
lap time 5.1 segs
flight time 5:10 mins (310 secs) 23% charge remains on Battery
The model flight beatiful F2B complete pattern. There are about 5 to 6 remaining laps after the 4-leaf clover