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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #150 on: April 20, 2014, 09:04:07 PM »
Brodak Tomahawk
Exceed Rocket 3015 motor
Gens Ace 4S 1800 Lipo
Castle Creations Phoenix Ice Lite 50 ESC
Hubin FM9 Timer


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« Reply #151 on: May 01, 2014, 07:40:33 PM »
57" wingspan
63 oz.
Eflite 25 motor
11.5x6 APCEP f2b prop
Thunder Power ProLite 3300 mah battery
Castle Ice 50 ESC
Hubin FM retract timer
Eflite 15-25 size retracts
64'/ .015 lines
9830 rpm (hi gov. setting)
Governor gain @ 42
5.1/5.2 sec. lap
27% left in battery after 5.25 min. flight
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« Reply #152 on: May 01, 2014, 07:53:11 PM »
54" wingspan
46 oz.
60' lines
APCEP 11.25*6 f2b prop(cut down 12*6)
Eflite 25
Thunder Power 2700 mah battery
Castle 45 ESC
Hubin FM9 timer
8470 rpm
5.3 sec. Lap(wind 10-15 mph)
using 1663 mah avg.
5.30 min. flight time
« Last Edit: May 31, 2014, 05:47:46 PM by Bob Hudak »
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #153 on: May 21, 2014, 01:33:56 PM »
Be Bop Delux - My own design converted to electric.
Wing area - 430 sq in.
Weight - 37 oz. with battery
Prop - APC  E 9x4.5

Brodak Electric Super Clown system

Motor - Arrowind 2815/09   1300kv
ESC - Arrowind 35a
Battery - Arrowind 3300mAH, 11.1 V 3s1p
Timer - Hubin FM-Oc

Set at max time & max power for now

Lines - 60 ‘eye to eye .015
Lap time – 5  to 5.1 sec

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #154 on: August 17, 2014, 05:54:05 AM »
Guys with ECL Orientals with built up fuse; could you please post or send photos of the setup?
I am converting and it is my FIRST.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #155 on: August 17, 2014, 12:32:48 PM »
Guys with ECL Orientals with built up fuse; could you please post or send photos of the setup?
I am converting and it is my FIRST.
Thanks in advance.

David,
This thread is for those who already have their set up working.  Please post your questions in the Electric Forum.  Thanks.
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« Reply #156 on: November 30, 2014, 08:46:44 AM »
49" - Wing Span

510 sq in - Wing Area

Weight - 48 oz with Battery

Battery - 3300 mah, 30C, 4S, 14.8V

Motor - Arrowind 2832/05 Outrunner

ESC- Arrowind 40A

Timer - Huber FM-0C

Prop - 10/7

Brodack bolt on electric motor mount



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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #157 on: December 18, 2014, 05:07:18 AM »
Airplane   Crossfire (by Bob Hunt)             
T/O weight:   62.8 oz or 1’779 Grams
Area (Wing & flaps):    694 sq.in or 44.7 dm2   
Span: 1’540 mm (60.6 in)
Wing airfoil:    NACA 0018 max.thickness 2.32 in or 59 mm. &  flatplate flaps  8 mm or 0.3 in
Flaps hingeline sweep: none, straight
Hingeline-hingeline: 485 mm or 19.1 in
Empennage airfoil: NACA 0012  max. thickness 0.75 in or 19 mm. Elevators integrated
Stabilizer A.o.A.:   +/- 0°
Motor thrust angle: +/- 0°
Motor side thrust: 1° out
Nose length: 275 mm or 10.8 in  Backplate – leading edge (at wing centre)
Motor axis above wing c.l.: 0.8 in or 20 mm
Stabilizer c.l. above wing c.l.:   1.8 in. or  45 mm
Rudder: Neutral, not adjuststable
Graphics design: Claus Maikis
   
Power Train   
Motor: AXI 2826/12  760 Kv & cooling fan COOL1
ESC:   Castle Creations Phoenix Edge lite 75 A  Firmware V 4.22 final
Mode    Control Line / high governing mode, auto-lipo off. Cutoff set to 15.0V
Timer:    Hubin FM-9
Battery LiPo: Thunder Power Magna 2’700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark protection:   Jeti 4 mm female on + of batteries.
Propeller: APC 12 x 6 EP (Pusher)
   
Trim July 11th 2016 28°C calm
C.G.:   7.32 in or 186 mm from hingeline fwd.
Leadout Center:    1.57 in or 36 mm. rear of C.G.
Tip weight:    Outer tip 0.95 oz or 27 Grams heavier
Elevators / Flaps throw: 35° / 35°
Hinge seal:    none
Nose trim weight: 0
Tail trim weight:    0
Lines: 0.015” x 64 ft or 0.4 mm x 19.5 m (eye-eye)
Brake: 100%, 0.6 sec delay, slow ramp
RPM set: 9'795
RPM logged: 9'558
Speed: 5.1 sec / Lap
Motor run time: 5'20"
Max. Watts: 582
Peak Current: 32 A
Max. Power out: 88%
Re-charge: 1'950 mAh
Min. Voltage under load after clover: 18.0 V or 3.6 V/cell

November 9th 2017 Update:
In its July 2016 configuration the airplane, while being a competitive flyer, kept making it difficult for me to accurately maintain 5 ft altitude in inverted flight. Aerodynamic modifications, such as sanding the stabilizer leading edge really sharp and/or installing turbulators at various positions, did not help. From meanwhile experience made with my Fiat C.29 (list your setup, reply 179, update from Nov. 9 2017) I suspected the inverted flight instability having something to do with the combination of conventional  (motor & empennage above wing centerline and 0° thrust axis) fuselage layout and (pusher) propeller sense of rotation.
Without any further change to the trimmed airplane I then changed the APC 12 x 6 EP prop to its tractor version 12 x 6 E, running at the same RPM. While slightly reducing line tension at unassisted take-off from hard surface and in outside loops/corners, the change has eliminated the altitude holding problem in inverted flight.

June 14th 2018 Update
For to furter improve corner and overhead linepull I have sealed the flaps and I now use a lightweight wooden 2-blade 13 x 6 tractor prop.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2018, 10:01:03 AM by Peter Germann »
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #158 on: December 19, 2014, 08:26:26 AM »
I love the looks of the paint scheme and the colors.  Also the reversed canopy is different.   You left out the wheel sizes and weight thought(just kidding).  A lot of info for one airplane.   Hope it flies as well as it looks. H^^
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Coroplast Cox PT-19 replica
« Reply #159 on: March 06, 2015, 10:58:42 PM »
Coroplast Cox PT-19 replica:

99 sq.in
11 ounces
EMAX 28-22
GForce 3S 800mAh
HobbyWing SkyWalker 20A esc
APC 7x4E
Generic 6 channel DSM2 RX driven by a surplus eFlight Blade micro heli Tx
37’ Spectra 20# lines (because that’s the handle that was on the table at the time)
Speed: varied during flight from full to 1/3 throttle
7 min averaged 440 mAh discharged


Flies just like the Cox PT-19 it was designed by Keith Morgan to emulate, smooth and docile.  Great beginner’s plane.





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Legacy 40
« Reply #160 on: April 03, 2015, 01:39:48 PM »
Wingspan    53.75"
Wing Area   565 sq.in.
Weight       51 oz.
Lines          62'/.015
Battery      Thunder Power G8 Pro Lite 4s 2700mah 25C
Motor         Cobra 2820/14 840 kv
ESC           Castle Creations Phoenix 45(set in hi gov. mode)
Timer         Hubin FM9
Prop           APC EP 11.5x6(cutdown 12x6)f2b
RPM           9260 rpm@timer
Gov gain   38
Lap Time     5.25 sec
Flight Time   5.20 min. w/ 6 laps to spare
Battery use  1900 mah avg.use to full recharge

 
 Lotsa pics! Here are a few shots of the top mount battery install. Nylon 1/4 28 bolts used to hold a 1/8" ply plate on top of the battery. The top hatch uses 2 neodeum magnets at the rear and a 1/8" music wire at the front. A piece of brass tube is cemented to the front of the plane where the 1/8" music wire inserts. I like using Anderson Power pole connectors they come apart easier than Dean connectors  and are accessable from the bottom of the plane for quick service.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2019, 10:03:04 AM by Bob Hudak »
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #161 on: April 04, 2015, 12:35:43 PM »
Thanks Bob.
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #162 on: April 26, 2015, 11:01:06 AM »
This original design called "COLIBRI" (Hummingbird).

Span:        56"

Weight:     52 oz. RTF

Motor:      Hacker A30-XL

Control:    Hacker X-55-SB  (55 Amp)

Battery:    Zippy Compact 5S- 2700 mAh

Prop:        APC electric 12-6  (cut to 11.5")

Timer:      Hubin

Lines:      65" X 0.015

For ease of building, using a set of Brodak Cardinal wing ribs, spaced equally.  Finish is Polyspan and Brodak dope.  Red dye mixed into clear dope for wings, etc.

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #163 on: May 05, 2015, 12:34:26 PM »
This P-40 stunter was built from plans by Pat Johnston, with a few changes for electric conversion.

Span:                     59"

weight RTF              57 oz.

Motor:                    Black Tiger 700W. set to 9000 RPM (from RSM Dist.)

Controller:               ZTW  65Amp.       (from RSM Dist.)

Timer:                    KR V.2

Prop:                     12-6 E-prop cut to 11.25"

Lines:                     0.015 X 65'

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #164 on: October 23, 2015, 05:44:40 PM »
This Blue Max Eternal, RSM kit

Span: 60"

Weigth: 61oz.

Wing Area: 679 sq. in.

Motor: Hyperion HP-Z3025-10 - 775kV - 1150W

ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite

Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer

Prop: 12X5N - Igor Burger

Lines: 0.018 X 64"

Battery: Thunder Power Lite 2700mA - 25C - 5S

Lap time: 5.2 sec.

Flight Time   5.10 min.

Battery use: 2100mAH



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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #165 on: November 12, 2015, 12:36:10 AM »
Magician RTF

This is the plane that is offered by the RSM Distribution Company; it comes ready to fly with all electric components installed and is the take apart version.

Wingspan: 48.5 inches
Wing area: 488 square inches
Weight RTF: 40 ounces


Motor: RSM Black Tiger 3536C, 1400 kV
45A ESC, provided by RSM
KR Compact Governor Manager version 2P This device manages flight time, RPM, governor gain, and motor start delay. The included programming enables me to change all these parameters.
3300 mAh 3S 30C DBY battery
APC 10 x 5 pusher prop

.015 x 60 ft lines eyelet to eyelet
10150 RPM (as I got it from RSM, it was about 9750 RPM but I wanted to make it fly faster).
Lap time: 5.1 seconds

With this setup, it is possible to fly for 6 minutes with about 20 percent battery capacity left (as measured with my battery checker).

Below is a link to a video showing the plane performing basic maneuvers.



Here are some photos of the electric system installation

« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 07:24:05 PM by aba183210 »

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #166 on: November 12, 2015, 11:25:40 AM »
2015 Brodak Legacy Modified ARF: (updated Sept 26, 2021)

Electric conversion:
- Bob Hunt’s hard nose mount
- Dual support struts 
- 1.75 degree out thrust offset

Specs:
- Wing Span: 59 3/8”
- Wing Area:  687 sq in
- Weight:  50.55 oz  (no batt)  61.5 oz (with batt)
- CG:  3.5"  from LE

Power Package:
- Motor:  Bad-Ass BA 3515-710KV
- ESC:    Jeti 66
- Timer: Igors iAcc version: 2.3
- Battery: Thunder Power / Pro-Lite+ 5S 2700 25C (10.85 oz)

Jeti 66 ESC settings:
- Min rpm: 7000
- Max rpm: 10,900 (Temp: 26C-28C degree / Humidity: Approx 80%)
- Target : 152
- Sensitivity: 20 - 70 

Prop:
- Igor's CF 12x5N (hollow) 3-blade 

Control system:
- Tom Morris bellcrank (Brett Buck style) with down line forward
- CF push rods / HD rocket city ball links
- Custom flaps & adjustable elev horn

Aerodynamics Tweaks:
- Vortex Generators  4 pcs.
- Custom zig-zag turbulator strips on Wing & Stab

Lines:
- 68' C>C .016" 4 strand /Carbon Steel brass type

Handle:
- ARK mfg. custom CF hard point
- Line spacing  4.33"
- Overhang  1.18" (equal up/dn)

Lap Speed:  5.35
Flight Time: 5:15
Delay:  .30 sec










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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #167 on: November 14, 2015, 10:46:00 PM »
Joe,

What RPM are you turning with the 11x5 3 blade?

Thanks,
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #168 on: November 15, 2015, 10:30:57 AM »
Joe,

What RPM are you turning with the 11x5 3 blade?

Thanks,
Jason

Hi Jason,

The rpm is 9624 on the FM-9 programmer for 5.35.  But it's not the actual rpm from the prop. I believe it’s about 650-700rpm or so higher,  close to around 10.300.

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #169 on: November 25, 2015, 03:49:43 PM »
This Thunder Gazer -  by David Fitzgerald - RSM kit
Builder – Fred Cesquim
Span: 60-3/4"

Weigth: 63,1oz.

Wing Area: 630 sq. in.

Motor: Hyperion HP-Z3025-10 - 775kV - 1150W

ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite

Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer

Prop: 12X5N - Igor Burger

Lines: 0.018 X 64"

Battery: Hyperion HV 2800mA - 30C/60C - 5S

Lap time: 5.15 sec.

Flight Time   5.10 min.

Battery use: 2000mAH


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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #170 on: February 10, 2016, 10:41:56 PM »
Glad to finally be able to post here.

Brodak Cardinal ARC assembled in 2006, originally had a ST46 on it. Converted to electric Feb 2016.

Weight: 49oz

Wing area: 579 sq in

Motor: Emax GT2820 985kv

ESC: Turnigy Trust 55A

Timer: KR2 Governor Timer

Prop: Hobbyking 11.5x5.5 pusher (APC copy)

Lines: 63ft .015

Battery: Rhino 4S 3000mah 30c (AliExpress)

Lap time: About 5 seconds

Flight time: 5 minutes

Battery used: 2000mah
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Symmetria
« Reply #171 on: February 25, 2016, 05:16:11 AM »
Type:    Symmetria II
Design: Based on Bob Hunt’s Crossfire, modified.
Built: Peter Germann
   
Specifications, updated November 3 2016   
Span: 57.9 in.
Area (wing incl. flaps):    683 sq.in.
Wing airfoil:  NACA 0019   d max 2.48 in. Nose radius 5/16”.
Flaps: Flat plate 5/16“ square TE
Empennage airfoil   : NACA 0012  d max  0.7 in.  Stabilizer nose radius 0.018“
Elevator: TE radius 1/16“
Spinner backplate to wing LE:    10.6 in
Hingeline to hingeline: 19“
Stabilizer AoA:   0°
Motor thrust axis: 0°
Motor thrust axis above wing CL: 0
Empennage CL above wing CL   : 0
Bellcrank installation:  up line rear
Motor: Hacker A40-14SV2 610 RPM/Volt
Rotation: Reverse
Battery:Thunder Power Magna 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark supressing: Jeti 4 mm
Landing gear: Fuselage installed, retractable
Gear servos (2):  e-flite EFLG 101 
Timer: Hubin FM-9 LG
Programmer: Hubin FM-9 LG
Speed Controller: Phoenix Edge lite 75 A Firmw. V 4.22  & C. Link V3.63.00
Mode: Governor high
Gain: Normal (25)
T/O weight: 1'854 Gr./ 65.4 oz
Flaps / elevator ratio and max. deflection: 1 : 1  45° / 45°
Elevator trim: 0
C.G.: 7.63 in from hingeline fwd. (18% MAC)
Leadout center: 1.2 in rear of C.G.
Tip weight:   0.8 oz
Lines: 0.015" x 64 ft (0.4 mm x 19.5 m)
Propeller: APC 12 x 6 EP
RPM set: 9'570
RPM logged: 9'300
Speed: 5.2 sec/lap
Max. Power out: 88 %
Min. in flight voltage:17.7 V
t max. ESC: 40°C
Re-charge  1'850 mAh

June 10 2016:
Crash due to loss of prop blade in corner, followed by immediate disintegration of nose section.

November 3 2016:
Nose rebuilt, gained 44 Grams. RPM/Volt changed to 610 (was 510). Flies fine, no e-hunt tendency, very quiet. Above specs adjusted

September 26 2017:
Flying in dead, calm air and insufficient stepping back out of wake turbulence; airplane destroyed.

« Last Edit: September 30, 2017, 03:45:34 AM by Peter Germann »
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Re: Symmetria
« Reply #172 on: February 25, 2016, 09:35:24 AM »
Type           Symmetria
Design   Based on Bob Hunt’s Crossfire, modified.
Built           Peter Germann
   
Specifications   
Span            57.9 in.
Area (wing incl. flaps)    683 sq.in.
Wing airfoil     NACA 0019   d max 2.48 in. Nose radius 5/16”.
Flaps             Flat plate 5/16“ square TE
Empennage airfoil      NACA 0012  d max  0.7 in.  Stabilizer nose radius 1/64“
Elevator              TE radius 1/16“
Spinner backplate to wing LE    10.3 in
Hingeline to hingeline              19“
Stabilizer AoA   +/- 0°
Motor thrust axis   +/- 0°
Motor thrust axis above wing CL    0
Empennage CL above wing CL            0
Motor    Hacker A40-14SV2 520 RPM/Volt
Battery   Thunder Power G8 Pro Force 2700 mAh 5S 70C
Spark supressing   Jeti 4 mm
Landing gear   Monowheel, retractable
Gear servo           e-flite EFLG 101 
Timer   Hubin         FM-9 Retract
Programmer   Hubin FM-9 LG
Speed Controller   Phoenix Edge lite 75 A Firmw. V 4.20 (Beta)  & C. Link V3.57.01
T/O weight           60.9 oz
   
Bench Trim Setup   February 25 2016
Flaps / elevator rati0 and max. deflection       0.85 : 1  32° / 37.5°
C.G.                                           7.32 in from hingeline fwd. (approx. 18% MAC)
Tip weight      1 Ľ oz
Propeller      AeroNaut CAM carbon light 13 x 6 L (Pusher)


Cool!
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #173 on: May 20, 2016, 10:16:18 PM »
This Max Bee, Igor Burger kit


Weigth: 59.5oz.

Motor: Hyperion HP-Z3025-10 - 775kV - 1150W

ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite

Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer

            Nose up 4-2-4 = 5        
            Sensitivity = 12
            Max RPM Limit = 40%
            Min RPM Limit = 90%

Prop: 12X5N - Igor Burger

Lines: 0.018 X 64"

Battery: Hyperion HV 2800mA - 30C - 5S

Lap time: 5.15 sec.

Flight Time   5.10 min.

Battery use: 1980mAH
« Last Edit: May 21, 2016, 10:27:51 AM by Rogerio Fiorotti »

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #174 on: June 09, 2016, 06:36:00 AM »
Murcielago from Christoph Holtermann, Germany

Trim and settings at WC 2016 in Perth:

Weight: 1718g or 60.2 oz

Span: 154 cm or 60.6"

Wing area: approx. 41 dm2 or 635sq."

Motor: Kontronik Kora 15-16: 690 rpm/V; 151g or 5.3 oz; diam. 41mm or 1.65" integrated fan, supplemental from bearing

Prop: Mejzlik 11 x 5.5, carbon 3 blade

flight rpm estimated 10,500 1/min

Timer: currently Active timer from Igor Burger

ESC: Jeti Spin 66

Lines: 0.015",  19,5m or 64' (eyelet-eyelet)

Battery: 6s 2200 mAh 45C, weight 350g or 12.27oz

Lap time: 5.2 sec/lap

Battery consumption approx. 1850 mAh per 5:10 min motor run time

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« Reply #175 on: August 05, 2016, 07:41:12 PM »
I have one baby ringer with the following:

Scorpion 2205/1585KV motor
APC 6 x 4 pusher prop
Rhino 610 mAh 3s
Arrowind 12A ESC nongoverning
Hubin FM-0c timer factory preset to a 7 second delay before the system starts, full throttle, and 3 min flight

7.9 oz AUW

This gives me a 3.3 second lap on 35 ft lines. It goes through wingovers wonderfully and loops well but in lazy eights it does slow down a bit.

I am about to finish another baby ringer. This one will have a 2205/1900KV motor for more speed and thrust. The same type of ESC and timer will be used.




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« Reply #176 on: January 10, 2017, 04:25:47 PM »
This CHUPIM 60 KIT  -  by OSNI LEME - SERITEC
Builder – OSNI LEME

Motor: Cobra 3520/14 - 700 kV

ESC: Castle Creation 50 Edge Lite

Timer: C/L Timer by Fiorotti - Active acceleromer

Prop: APC 13X4,5 P

Lines: 0.018 x 18,5 m

Battery: Zippy Compact 2700mA - 25C- 5S

Lap time: 5.2 sec.

Flight Time   5.10 min.


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Jr. Flite Streak
« Reply #177 on: May 20, 2017, 06:28:49 PM »
Airframe:
Jr. Flite Streak (Brodak)
Span 31"
Area 230sq.in
Weight 19.9oz RTF with battery
Wing loading 12.5oz/sq.ft
Silk/Dope finish

Power plant:
Motor: Turnigy SK3-2836-1500; 1500rpm/V; 0.65A no-load; 0.026 Ohms.
Battery: Turnigy NanoTech (45C); 3 cells; 1800mAh
Speed Control: Castle Creations Talon 35
Prop: APC 8x6E
Timer: Hubin FM-9

Settings:
RPM set at 11660 to get actual 10440
Current: 22.7A peak
Watts: 243.5W
Power Loading: 205 W/lb
Flight time: 4 min leaves battery at 3.75 v/cell (23%).
Lap time: 4.1 sec on 52' lines (good for Flite Streak style of flying; any slower and it's loose overhead).



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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #178 on: May 23, 2017, 03:57:02 AM »
Ultra Hobby Gieseke Nobler Component Kit converted to electric.
Arrowind 2820/07 motor
Arrowind 40A ESC
FM-Oc Rem Hubin Timer
4 Cell 3300 mAh battery
Graphics by Avaiojet

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #179 on: May 25, 2017, 04:18:53 AM »
Here is the result of my attempt to build a fixed gear airplane specificly laid out for pusher prop use. Reason was that I have repeatedly experienced difficulties (e-hunting) trimming conventionally laid out airplanes for stable tracking in level- and inverted flight while being flown with pusher props. "Conventionally" meaning motor and empennage 1 or 1 1/2 in above the wing centerline. Wishing to maintain the very noticeably positive effect on line tension of the pusher propeller in outside turns and in the upper segment of the hourglass manoeuvre, switching back to tractor props was not really an option...

In an attempt to compensate level/inverted flight disturbance forces resulting from the propeller/spinner/rotor assy. rotating clockwise (Pusher) and affecting tracking stability in level and inverted flight, I have adjusted the vertical positions of the drive train components and the empennage accordingly. In order to do so it was first neccessary to quantify disturbance forces and compensating measures. This could not have been done without Wolfgang Nieukamp's much appreciated calculations quantifying in-flight propeller gyroscopic forces and resulting moments. From Wolfgangs findings, I have arranged those components accordingly:

- Motor vertical thrust axis angle (2.5° up)
- Motor vertical thrust axis distance from wing centerline (below 10 mm / 3/8")
- Stabilizer angle of attack (1° down)
- Rabe rudder functionality (out with elevator up)
 
While the dimensions of wing, empennage and the arms are borrowed from Igor's Max Bee, the fuselage was respectfully shaped in memory of the Italian Fiat C.29 1000 hp racing floatplane from the 1929's.

Findings:
The airplane tracks equally nice in horizontal and inverted flight without any e-huntig tendency. Corners and exits are solid with stable exits. Turning rates are equal. Hourglass overhead line tension is good.

Spec. sheet update:
June 2nd 2018:  Flaps / Elevators set to 36° / 45°. Prop Fiala E3 Electric Pusher, Wood. 2-blade 13 x 6 at 9'240RPM and 5:20 min run time.  C.G. at 183 mm / 7.2 in. Leadout centre 32 mm (1 1/4 in) rear of C.G. Handle spacing 102 mm (4in). Governor Gain set to Medium 25, timing to Castle "Low 0" and PWM rate to "Castle Outrunner". Lines 19.5 m / 65 ft)  (0.4 mm / 0.015”) Yatsenko brass coated,. Laptime: 5.2.  Re-charge 2'300 mAh (calm)

Rgds, Peter Germann 
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« Reply #180 on: March 30, 2018, 08:42:36 AM »
April 3rd: 20° C calm. No e-hunting and very noticable line-pull build up in upper loop of vert. 8 and first inside loop in clover. Sharp corner with clean exit.

June 4th 2018 26°C, calm: Fiala wood 13 x 6 E3 pusher  9'645 RPM set, 5.15 sec/lap Tighter corner with clean exit when compared to APC 13 x 5.5 EP. 2'100 mAh recharge after 5:20 flight run time on 0.015 x 64 ft. Yatsenko lines.

July 17th 2018 28°C, very light wind: 52nd from 85 at 2'018 W/C in Landres, France.

August 28th 2018 26°C, calm: APC 13 x 6.5 EP pusher at 8'400 RPM constant speed, logged, 5.2 sec/lap. Sharp corner with clean exit. Lower RPM reduces energy consumption to 1'900 mAh recharge (79%) after 5:20 flight on 0.015 x 64 ft. Yatsenko lines.
62°C ESC temp.

I have a full set of detail and assembly (metric) drawings. All are .pdf and available on request for free.
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #181 on: May 05, 2018, 06:50:30 PM »
Imitation profile from Mike Griffin and Eric Rule at RSM. 

Power:  Cobra 2826/12  760 kv

Battery:  Thunder Power 5S 2800 Pro Lite

ESC:  Castle Creations Talon 60

Timer:  FM-9 profile timer from Will Hubin

Prop:  APC 11 X 5.5

Flying weight:  49 ounces

Lines:  .015 X 61' eyelet to eyelet w/Fancher handle

Finish:  Ultrakote and Krylon paint

Still in trimming and very early flight stages, will provide more information about flight characteristics when available.

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Zero Profile
« Reply #182 on: April 26, 2020, 05:49:03 PM »
Zero Profile based off Bill Bischoff design
49" wingspan 453 Square inches
Hobbyking film covering
naca 0016 airfoil
Cobra C-2826-EF1-SS
APC 8x8e prop
4cell 2200 battery
Cobra 80A ESC
60' .018" lines from handle to center of model
Hubin  Fm-9
Throttle mode 100%
2' 15" run time
3.4 sec. lap
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #183 on: May 23, 2020, 01:27:20 PM »
REVOLUTIONS
Wing area 710 sq inches
Flying weight 58-59oz
Motor JOKER 4250-8 V3 510 KV   210g  1150W
Battery TP 6S 2800mAh
Timer IGOR ACTIVE
Prop XOAR 12X6 2B
Line length (eye to center) 68ft
Flight time 5min 30sec
Lap speed 5.4sec
mAh used 1450mAh max.

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #184 on: May 31, 2020, 07:22:57 PM »
Top Flite ARF Nobler converted from OS.35 to electric:
500 square inches area
Weight 52 oz ready to fly
60 ft center to center lines, diameter.015 in
5 min 20 seconds flight time
4.625 seconds per lap time
Motor Rimfire.32 800 kv
Battery 4 cell 2200 mAh Lipo
ESC Brodak/Hubin F2B Hornet 60 A
Timer Brodak/Hubin FM Hornet
Prop APC 11x5.5 E tractor
9660 RPM
25 Amp draw
352 Watts
Used/charged back 2000 mAh

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #185 on: July 05, 2020, 11:52:20 AM »
Top Flite ARF Nobler, same model, as in previous post.
52 oz ready to fly
60 ft handle center to model center
5 minutes 20 seconds flight time
5 seconds per lap time
Motor Rimfire.32. 800 Kv
Battery 4 cell 2200 mah lipo
ESC Jeti Spin 66 , preset in 3D helicopter mode
Timer by Igor Burger. Thank you, Igor, instructions are very clear and user friendly!
Prop APC 11x5.5 E tractor
9750 rpm
Used/ charged back 1778 mAh.
Igor’s system is more efficient than Hubin/Brodak system.

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2020, 05:39:56 PM »
S1 Ringmaster built from Tom Morris design kit

Cobra 2221/10.  (3.2 oz.)
Cobra 33 amp esc (1.75 oz.)
Fm9 timer
Hyperion 3S 1800 mah (4.2 oz.)
ASP 9x6 EP
Total Weight ready to fly-25 oz.
0.12x56 ft. Lines
Great flying RM at this weight- ( Thanks Tom!)

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #187 on: January 14, 2021, 10:45:05 AM »
PointsFinder EP
Based on a Pathfinder wing and stab, Starfinder wing and stab tips, and a Resolve EP fuse profile.
620 sq in wing area
54.0 oz ready to launch
Cobra 3515 Kv740 motor
Talon 35 ESC set to "insensitive"
Hubin FM-9 timer
Zippy Compact 5S 3000 Lipo
APC thin electric pusher 13x5.5 cut down to 11.5.
5.2 second lap time
.015x60' eye to eye.
2,000 mah used (estimated at this time)
"zero zero" with +1/2* upthrust, 2 1/2* right thrust, about 3/32 right rudder initial setup.
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« Reply #188 on: January 14, 2021, 11:46:39 AM »
Like those control horns!
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #189 on: February 05, 2021, 04:01:46 PM »
Primary force (Mikey Pratt design/kit)

502 sq. in. wing
Brodak RM conversion Battery box
Arrowind 2809/15 motor, APC 11x5.5 cut down to 10 3/4"
Castle Talon 35 ESC
ThunderPower 4S 2200 mah lipo
Hubin FM-9 Timer (5min. 25 sec. flight time) 25% battery cap. left
ready to fly weight trimed out=38 oz.
58 ft. 0.012 lines,  5.3 lap


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« Reply #190 on: February 11, 2021, 04:04:47 PM »
Otto the Giro from Dick Mathis plans

32 1/2oz
Cobra 2820/14 840Kv
Generic eBay 40A ESC
Zippy Compact 4S 2200 lipo
APC 10/6 electric pusher
Open source CL timer
Rustoleum rattle can finish

Yet unflown due to weather
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #191 on: December 18, 2021, 02:11:18 AM »
I am behind in listing my setup.  Currently, my setup is:

Somewhat modified Impact (Predator in sheep's clothing) with Igor nonlinear flap mechanism
Plettenberg 20-16 motor
Thunder Power Prolitex 6s 2800 mAhr battery
Jeti Spin 66 controller
Igor active timer
Tim's Universal Timer (TUT) to provide supplementary modes
Battery Indicating and Crew Alerting System (BICAS)
Igor 12" prop, traditional rotation direction
Homemade carbon battery rails
Homemade motor mount
Homemade spinner
Homemade carbon landing gear
Homemade handle
Zigzag boundary layer trip strips
Cage-free artisanal vortex generators
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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #192 on: January 19, 2022, 07:27:56 PM »
Modified Eratix 3D Plane
This plane was originally posted with a different setup, but since I snapped the outboard wing off. I will list the changes that made it work this time.
Weight: 66oz
Motor: Rimfire 42-50-800kv
ESC: Castle Creations Ice 50
Timer: Hubin FM-2A
Prop: APC e-prop 12.75 x 4.5
Lines: .015 x 63.5 Eye 2 Eye

What battery are you using? I have a motor the same size and KV by HobbyStar. I am probably going to run 5 cells.

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Re: List Your Set Up...E S1 Ringmaster
« Reply #193 on: March 26, 2022, 07:39:00 AM »
 S1 Sterling Ringmaster

33oz with a BadAss 2320  820kV motor on a Thunder Power 5S - 1350mah ProLite pack. ESC is a Castle Creation 35A Talon, timer ZTron. I run an APCE P - 8 1/2x6 3/4 prop (cut down and pitched up APCE P 9x6) at 9650 rpm, on 60' FINS 40G 45LB Test (C to C) Spectra lines, 4.75 sec lap time. This setup save about 1 3/4oz over the commonly use 1800 - 2200 packs. The FINS 40G Spectra lines are very low drag and saved 4% battery capacity compared to 0.012" stainless steel cable that would be used with this size/wt ship
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Re: List Your Set Up...E S1 Ringmaster
« Reply #194 on: March 26, 2022, 09:12:45 AM »
S1 Sterling Ringmaster

33oz with a BadAss 2320  820kV motor on a Thunder Power 5S - 1350mah ProLite pack. I run an APCE P - 8 1/2x6 3/4 prop (cut down and pitched up APCE P 9x6) at 9650 rpm, on 60' FINS 40G 45LB Test (C to C) Spectra lines, 4.75 sec lap time. This setup save about 1 3/4oz over the commonly use 1800 - 2200 packs. The FINS 40G Spectra lines are very low drag and saved 4% battery capacity compared to 0.012" stainless steel cable that would be used with this size/wt ship

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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #195 on: March 26, 2022, 09:56:59 AM »
Circulas 46 IIe Profile by Dennis Nunes

Motor: BadAss 3515-710 Kv Front Mounted
ESC: Castle Creations Talon 60
   Brake:
      Brake Strength 100% (Hard)
      Brake Delay .6 sec (Delayed) (Default)
      Brake Ramp Very Fast
   Cutoffs:
      Cutoff Voltage Auto Li-Po (Default)
      Auto-Lipo Volts/Cell 3.2 Volts/Cell (Default)
      Voltage Cutoff Type Hard Cutoff
      Current Limiting Normal (Default)
      Current Cutoff Type Soft Cutoff (Default)
   Motor:
      Motor Start Power High (100)
      Motor Timing Custom (4)
      Direction Forward (Default)
      PWM Rate 8 Khz
   Other:
      Power-On Beep Enabled (Default)
      Link Live Enable Disabled (Default)
      BEC Voltage 6.0V (Default)
   Software:
      Device Name Talon 60 (F541)
      Current Firmware V 4.25
Timer: Hubin FM-9 w/Onboard On/Off Switch
   Start Delay: 30 Seconds
   RPM: 9,996
   Flight Time: 5'30"
Battery: Thunder Power 6S 2800 mAh, XT connector

Plane Specifications:
   Wingspan: 56.25"
   Wing Area: 580 sq. in.
   Nose Length: 11"
   Flap to Elevator Hinge Line: 18"
   Weight w/Battery: 67.5 oz.
   Full Length 1/2" High Elevator Wedges
   Full Length 0.010" Thick Trip Strips on Wing and Stabilizer

Other Information:
   Prop: Igor 12x5N 3-Blade Carbon Fiber
   Lines: .018" x 63' 7-Strand Stainless Steel
   Handle: Cox/Resinger Carbon Fiber

For further information on the construction and design of Circulas 46 IIe go to the Flying Lines website: http://flyinglines.org/nunes.circulas46lle.html


Dennis


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Re: List Your Set Up...
« Reply #196 on: July 10, 2023, 02:29:52 PM »
Model                Top Flite ARF Nobler
Engine               Cobra 2826/12
ESC                   ZTW Mantis 40A
Timer                KR Governor
Battery              Hyperion Graphene G8  4S 2800mA (with HvLi charge)
Battery weight   242 (8.5oz)
lines                  18Mts (60ft)
Prop                  APC  11x5.5  E
Flight Weight     1400 gr (49.3)
lap time            5.1 segs
flight time         5:10 mins (310 secs)  23% charge remains on Battery

The model flight beatiful F2B complete pattern. There are about 5 to 6 remaining laps after the 4-leaf clover   
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