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Title: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Mike Alimov on July 23, 2019, 04:07:33 PM: Those of you who have used the Hubin FM timers with Castle Phoenix ESCs (not ICE, not EDGE, but simply Phoenix 35, 45, etc) or Castle Talon ESCs (Talon 35, Talon 60, etc) know that the Phoenix ICE/EDGE High RPM mode settings result in different actual RPM. For example, I found that my Phoenix 35 ESC produced about 300 less actual RPMs than was set in the programmer; the Talons are different by almost 1,000 RPM between actual and programmed. Only the Castle ICE or Edge ESCs will match the set RPM between programmed and actual.

I've worked with Will Hubin to add support for the Phoenix and Talon ESCs, and it has been done. He gave me a new chip for the FM-9 Programmer (requires you to take the programmer board out of the case and swap the chip in the socket - make sure to watch for the chip key orientation!!). The new chip adds two more modes: Phoenix High RPM and Talon High RPM. With the ESC set to Governor High RPM in the Castle Link software, these two new modes will allow you to achieve actual RPM that are within 30-50 RPM of the programmed value, as I determined with my Fromeco tach. My son Luca flew his airplanes (SV-11 and Initiation) with Phoenix 35 ESC and FM-9 set to Phoenix High RPM all week at the NATS, and everything worked flawlessly.

You can order upgrade chips from Will Hubin directly; $7 each, shipping included.
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Bob Hudak on July 24, 2019, 05:45:23 AM: Mike,
Does Will's replacement chip do the fm9r(retracts)timer with the added ESC's?
Thanks, Bob
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Mike Alimov on July 24, 2019, 09:09:50 AM: Hmmm. Not sure. Call him.
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Dave Rigotti on July 29, 2019, 02:08:48 PM: Contact info for Will Hubin would be appreciated please.
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Rick_Huff on July 29, 2019, 02:43:39 PM: I ordered two of Will's timers with the Talon mode (one with the retract feature). I received and installed them and now find that the rpm setpoint is right-on with the actual rpm. I measured 10,600 to 10,620 rpm with my Fromeco tach and the setpoint was 10,620 rpm. Thanks to Mike and Will for initialing and making this change.
Rick
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Brent Williams on July 29, 2019, 04:32:22 PM: Do the timers also need to be updated to work properly with the Talon ESC, or is this update only needed on the programmer box?
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Crist Rigotti on July 29, 2019, 06:59:07 PM: Quote from: Dave_Rigotti on July 29, 2019, 02:08:48 PM
Contact info for Will Hubin would be appreciated please.

Hubin Timers

Will Hubin
719 Cuyahoga St.
Kent, OH. 44240
330-678-9319
whubin@kent.edu
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Rick_Huff on July 30, 2019, 04:37:56 AM: Brent,
No, only the programmer needs to be updated,
Rick
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Dave Rigotti on July 30, 2019, 05:52:56 AM: Thanks

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on July 29, 2019, 06:59:07 PM

Hubin Timers

Will Hubin
719 Cuyahoga St.
Kent, OH. 44240
330-678-9319
whubin@kent.edu
Title: Re: Hubin FM-9 Programmer upgrade now supports Castle Phoenix and Talon ESCs
Post by: Mike Alimov on August 06, 2019, 06:17:11 PM: Clarification: per Will Hubin, any of his timers that can be programmed using FM-9 programmer will support the new Talon and Phoenix modes.