I am starting a Brodak P-51B profile (470sq/in rated for .28-.40 glow) and contemplating going electric.  I have some experience with RC electric and have soem NIB components.  I have an AXI 2826-8 motor and a Castle ICE 50 ESC.  I also have FMA 4-S charger.  I will need a 4-S battery and timer.  The questions I have is the motor to "hot" for CL stunt?  Will the controller handle it for CL?  What would be a good recomendation for a charger?  What size battery?  4S-3000MaH a good place to start?
Am I on the right track or just get a glow engine?
Thanks in advance.
Dave B.

Hi Dave,
 The 2826-14 is a bit large. I agree with Wynn. The Axi 2820-14 or similar (Scorpion 3020-890) would work perfect with 4S 3000 mah batteries on that. The Turnigy Nano series may be your best bet at the budget end.There are many lower cost "budget" type motors that will work well also. For the timer use the Will Hubin FM-9 setup. It is by far the easiest to use!!! Your charger is fine. Ice 50 is fine. For your prop use the APC thin electric 11x5.5 pusher at around 9500 rpm to start. I believe Dennis Adimisin has a bunch of these for sale. I'm sure others will chime in with very good suggestions too.
William

Hi,
I ran the numbers using Castle link demo mode and with the 2820-12 which is a 990 kv motor you are good in the RPM range of 9300-12600 rpm on a 4 cell battery so if you run the 11x5.5 pusher or even one of the 11x4.5 pushers(not sure if they are still being made, Dennis Adimisin would know) you will be fine. The 4.5 would probably be slightly more efficient as it would run more into the "sweet spot" of the throttle curve. So bottom line,you have that motor already, use it. Don't use a fusible link as the castle controllers are already designed to shut down on a voltage spike and you don't need to introduce another possible point of failure into the system. As far as setting the RPM, if you run in Governor mode the RPM is set on the timer. If you run in "set rpm mode" its set on the speed control. Buy the FM-9 set up from Will Hubin and you are covered eather way. I run in Gov. Many others run in "set RPM". Both work very well.

Allen,
Gov mode and set rpm are kind of the same thing. In gov mode the Rpm is controlled off the timer in set rpm we set the program on the speedcontrol and we only have a choice of 3 preset settings off the timer. I am not an engineer or technician of any sort so I don't really understand why it work the way it does. I am just pretty good at taking what they give me and making it work well. I'm sure there are others out here that can explain the differences allot better than me. When I first started in this I used Set Rpm because I could set it on my computer and it was easily repeatable and always steady. Now with the programming box on the FM9 i can easily program my RPMs so flying in Gov mode has become totally simplified and I no longer need a laptop on the field if I want to change RPM.
William

Hi David,

If I was a new guy to ECL, I'd follow the excellent advice from Wynn and William. You will be a happy ECL flyer if you do. 

RE: the nose over issue. If you are using the very good Phoenix ICE ESC from Castle Creations, then go to the ESC set up mode called "Current Limiting" change the factory setting of "Normal" to the setting of "sensitive" or "very sensitive". This will shut off the ESC almost immediately in a nose over or other mishap. Like you said, without an RC TH control in the pilots hands, the "Normal" setting is not fast enough to turn off the ESC in ECL (Electric Control Line) before damage is done to the system. (please don't ask how I know this! ;-)  ..... Your ESC instructions should explain the above for any ESC you use.

BTW: you may want to use the "search" function (please see below). There are many informative threads on this forum. The "Setup" sticky thread on the 1st page of this E forum may prove very helpful too. Your ERC knowledge will be a big help to you! .... Welcome to the wonderful world of ECL. 

Hi Allan P.,

This forum has an excellent "search" function located in the far upper right corner of the page. You will find many threads explaining ESC use for our CL models. Here is another link that may help everyone looking for some basic info on ESCs for models:

              http://www.rcmdirect.co.uk/eshop/index.php?main_page=document_general_info&cPath=63&products_id=585   

There are many info links for ESCs, the Castle Creations web site has a lot of info too.

Hi John,

Please see "search" function above. There are threads covering your insulated line idea. :-) BTW: in CLPA you CAN use TH control, as long as this control is done through the lines, and/or it is done ONBOARD the plane. This has always been true, there was never an AMA CL rule against it. ..... It's just that the thicker lines make it difficult to be competitive in CLPA.       

Regards,