Author Topic: Electron foaming (Read 2416 times)

Larry Renger · « **on:** July 09, 2010, 10:00:47 PM »

I noticed the thread on raising and lowering the battery to get consistent speed upright and inverted, but nobody has talked about countering the dreaded electron foaming. You can't use Armorall on a battery, they are sealed!

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2010, 10:39:58 PM »

True, but I'm willing to stake my reputation as an electrical engineer on the following advice:

Rub Armor All on the outside of the battery and you will never have trouble with electron foaming.

bob branch · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2010, 06:25:21 PM »

Will the armorall make it easier to clean off those slimy electrons from the plane after a day's flying?

bob branch

Lionel Smith · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2010, 10:15:06 PM »

Also don't forget to check the ESC for air leaks, its something a lot of people overlook when having foaming problems with the electrons

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2010, 10:58:41 PM »

please also note that in order for your univolt vent to function properly, the heat shrink on the vent wire should be 3/8 to 5/16" shorter than the supply wire,, or it will vary the run through the battery usage

bob branch · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2010, 11:34:52 PM »

But here is the real problem. If we are going to be taken seriously by the serious members of the community we just have to keep our models clean of those greasy electrons. I mean look at this pic Rick Sawicki took today at the Midwest Electric Fly In ... what a mess. This guy has electrons all over his motor! Tell me this would not drive a bunch of serious folks nuts to see our motors and planes look like this!

bob

Larry Renger · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2010, 12:28:17 PM »

My wife makes me strip in front of the washer and immediately wash my flying clothes, but the electron stains just won't come out! What to do?

bob branch · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2010, 01:32:37 PM »

20% nitro fuel folloewd by WD-40 will do it. Thne a little Arm & Hammer to buffer it all.

bob branch

Larry Wong · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2010, 01:46:55 PM »

How do you get the electrons off? My cloth just move's it around because of the static! should I ground it to the water pipe?

bfrog · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:23:15 PM »

The only way I know of to really clean off the electrons is with anti-matter. Hard to get and very expensive.

Larry Wong · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2010, 11:20:53 PM »

What's a Matter! must be like don't matter!

Leester · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2010, 03:22:33 AM »

You makin fun of my Alma Mater wattsamatterU

Dennis Toth · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:08:14 AM »

Guys,
The real answer is the new "tuned electron pipe"! This is a magnetic tube with expansion section that will not only direct the messy electrons out the back and away from the ship but also provides superior wind performance by maintaining constant negative electron flow pressure on the motor subatomic magnetic flux structure. Another benefit, being a magnetic structure it is virtually invisible and can be mounted anyplace on the fuse without disrupting the look of the plane. The only negative is for anyone holding the ship if they are directly in back of the exit focus cone they could start glowing a slight shade of cobalt Blue. This is usually temporary but you may need to be defluxed or start a Las Vegas night club act.

This is going to change the way stunt is flown forever, no one will ever use anything else!!

Best, DennisT

Dave Adamisin · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2010, 09:00:48 PM »

Quote from: Larry Renger on July 11, 2010, 12:28:17 PM

My wife makes me strip in front of the washer and immediately wash my flying clothes, but the electron stains just won't come out! What to do?

Uhhhh..... take advantage of the moment........

Larry Renger · « **Reply #14 on:** July 13, 2010, 11:25:23 PM »

This is a family forum, let's not go there!

bob branch · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2010, 05:29:25 AM »

Actually, several of the electric fliers in our area have talked about putting a carbon tuned pipe (I for one had one laying around) into an electric stunter just to drive the greasers nuts.

bob branch.

even better might be a combat motor short pipe, take up less room in the model.

Dennis Adamisin · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2010, 08:50:54 PM »

Quote from: bob branch on July 14, 2010, 05:29:25 AM

Actually, several of the electric fliers in our area have talked about putting a carbon tuned pipe (I for one had one laying around) into an electric stunter just to drive the greasers nuts.

bob branch.

even better might be a combat motor short pipe, take up less room in the model.

I'm using a CF flux capacitor

bob branch · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2010, 05:28:12 AM »

I knew it! I just knew it! Someone was going to get into that damned thing!. Flux Capacitors must be outlawed from stunt. I am preparing a rule change propopsal for this year that will do just that. If these devices are allowed to be used they will turn stunt back 150 years. They will provide an unfair advantage for the priveledged few. Not only that they do not follow the builder of the model rule. And they allow for external control not allowed by the AMA rules. Flux capacitors are just NOT in the spirit of Stunt. The will force a different pattern to be flown that we will see in the future. BEWARE the flux Capacitor. It is not a sacred cow, it is spoiled meet!

bob branch

Roger Anderson · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2010, 02:13:26 PM »

We experienced some of that electron foaming today. Must have developed a leak in the tank covering or maybe at the silicone fuel line wire connection. Maybe it is just a pin hole in the overflow wire. What ever the cause, we used a bit more electrons for flights today at higher temperatures.

Roger Anderson

Dennis Toth · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2010, 09:33:04 PM »

Roger,
You probably didn't hook in the electron unipolar recapture loop that will collect the free radical anti electrons and recharge the core field flux. Now this is not the evil Flux Capacitor but part of the ether gravitational force that provides extended power cell capacity. You can easily construct one by adding a simple loop of #12 platinum wire rapped with #22 gold wire that runs from the front of the firewall through the inside of the fuse and back the other side. In the area of the battery compartment on the positive side attach a strip of gold foil about 1/2" high by the length of the battery. On the negatives side a matching strip of platinum foil. Make sure the shine side of the gold foil is facing the battery and the platinum foil dull side facing the battery.

CAUTION: if you reverse the foil shine and dull sides the battery can over-enerization which bypasses the controller and drives the motor directly though field flux cycling discharge resulting in nonstop flights that can only be ended by crashing the ship!!! Good luck.

Best, DennisT

Roger Anderson · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2010, 10:16:43 PM »

I guess the only real fix is to order one of those CF flux Capacitors from Dennis before he runs out of stock.

Roger

bob branch · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2010, 05:33:31 AM »

Hey, if we all get them now we can granfather them in the new rule proposal!

bob branch

Robert-Jan · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2010, 06:31:58 AM »

Has someone tried to charge the battery upside down?

Greetings Robert-Jan

Dean Pappas · « **Reply #23 on:** July 16, 2010, 11:48:22 AM »

All the Australians do ...
Dean

TDM · « **Reply #24 on:** July 16, 2010, 12:12:05 PM »

LOL

bob branch · « **Reply #25 on:** July 16, 2010, 02:16:30 PM »

Haven't you noticed they do inverted flight first also?

bob branch

Larry Renger · « **Reply #26 on:** July 16, 2010, 11:10:31 PM »

My God, I've created a Frankenfurter of a thread. Will it never die?

pat king · « **Reply #27 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:21:15 AM »

What I want to know is who is going to invent the Nitro and Castor smell for the electric airplanes. It is bad enough that they are so quiet, but no Nitro or Castor smell is really a bummer.

Pat

bob branch · « **Reply #28 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:29:46 AM »

Ok, I'll sell converted incense burners for CL pilots. They will consume 6 oz of 10% nitro fuel in 6 minutes. Gives you a chance to get them going then go and push the button to start your flight. Recommended location is 14 ft 6 inches upwind of the judges. Includes push button ignition (electric, what else!) and will waft fuel smell over judges and pilot during flight. Note, if you buy 3 you can position additional ones at 90 degrees to the judges on each side of the circle and cover the entire fan base observing the flight as well AND guard against wind shifts uncovering either the pilot or the Judges (most important part). $29.95 plus shipping. Paypal accepted. Caution do not use over 20% nitro (former 4 strokers are accomodated) due to explosion risk of higher nitro fuels... but not a lot of electic combat pilots yet anyway so who cares? . I'll arrange for a Big Art version but there will be an extra charge for his custom tuning... but of course it will be worth it!

Now, onto the sound system.....

#^bob branch

Dennis Toth · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2010, 11:36:17 AM »

OK, we could add a smoke system to burn old glow fuel and blow it out the tail!

Best, DennisT

Dave Adamisin · « **Reply #30 on:** July 17, 2010, 08:26:56 PM »

Quote from: pat king on July 17, 2010, 11:21:15 AM

What I want to know is who is going to invent the Nitro and Castor smell for the electric airplanes. It is bad enough that they are so quiet, but no Nitro or Castor smell is really a bummer.

Pat

I'm working on a line of inhalers........

bob branch · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2010, 05:29:00 AM »

Dave

I know the Powermaster inhaler will probably be the biggest seller in your line but I'd encourage you to go ahead and bring out the Rich's Brew as well. Its been gaining a good following as well. I thought I'd let you know thought that I heard the FDA was likely to made an ozone inhaler illegal... for obvious reasons.

bob branch

Dave Adamisin · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2010, 02:07:09 PM »

Quote from: bob branch on July 18, 2010, 05:29:00 AM

Dave

I know the Powermaster inhaler will probably be the biggest seller in your line but I'd encourage you to go ahead and bring out the Rich's Brew as well. Its been gaining a good following as well. I thought I'd let you know thought that I heard the FDA was likely to made an ozone inhaler illegal... for obvious reasons.

bob branch

Absolutely, I was thinking of: Ucon, Castor, 50/50, Klotz and a Classic line that would include: Powermist, Blue Blazer, and a general homebrew with just a wisper of Nitro Benzene....

Larry Renger · « **Reply #33 on:** July 19, 2010, 09:44:24 AM »

OOOH! I loved the smell of Powermist in the morning!

Author Topic: Electron foaming (Read 2416 times)

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