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Offline Keith Renecle

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My new take-apart electric profile
« on: September 30, 2010, 12:59:46 AM »
I started this project last year, and although it sounds like a pointless exercise, let me explain the motivation behind it. Travelling these days using cheap air flights is way cheaper than travelling long distances by car. To take your model on the airlines requires a small packing box. Profile models are a pretty easy way to make nice compact stunters quickly, so I thought about making it all bolt together. About half way through, it started looking like it was going to come out too heavy, but the final weight is 43.7 oz. (1240 grams)........with the 2200 mAh 4-cell Lipo.

It's a .40 size stunter, and I use an E-Max 2820 motor (same as Arrowind 2820) with a Hobbywing 40 amp esc, plus my own governor timer. The bellcrank is in the inner wing and there is a short stub joiner going to the outer wing that is held on with 2 short M3 bolts with counter-sunk heads. The fuselage joint is staggered as you can see from the photos below, and has normal M3 bolts top and bottom. I suppose that 440 bolts would be fine over there. The wings are cored out foam wings with 1/16" balsa leading and trailing edges and cap strips between them. I use 3 x 10 mm wood spars under the balsa sheeting for the aluminium joiners. The covering is poly tissue, like Polyspan, and then I sprayed it with a quick drying enamel. This is "sort-of" fuel-proof, although it does not have to be fuel-proof for obvious reasons. I could have just used laquer spray with rattle cans, but the enamel is a lot more glossy and tougher. The quick dry enamels also have around 50% less solids than normal enamel. What sometimes happens is that you get someone with fuel on their hands that picks up your precious new model, and then the lacquer pain will be damaged. This is why I wanted a "sort-of" fuel proof finish.

It flies well and I believe it is rather nice to take with you even in you car if you like taking a model with you on holiday. I have not yet made a simple box for it, but last week-end we had a competition down in Durban (South Africa) and this is a 600 km. drive. There were 4 of us in my Nissan Almera and I stuck the profile parts in sections of bubble wrap into gaps in the boot. This worked very well.

I've called it "Protron" and it is based on my full-bodied Electron, so it's like a Profile Electron. The cheek cowl works nicely to cover the electronics, and the ESC power cable goes through to the battery side as you can see. The Velcro straps work well to hold everything in place, and connecting the battery is quick and easy. I use a slide switch on my timer to start it all up and this is neatly tucked away in the cheek cowl. There is a gap underneath the cheek cowl for air to flow out, so the switch just sticks out enough to get to. My governor timer is programmed by means of a simple plug-in 3-button card, that is used in place of the slide switch when you want to change settings. When I want to do a lot of fiddling with the settings, then I leave the cheek cowl off. It's held on with just one M3 bolt and 2 dowel pins at the rear.

The motor and esc hardly gets warm, so I believe that this is a nice power package. I use the popular APC 11 x 5.5 E-prop. Anyway, if you have any questions, then fire away.

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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 05:39:07 AM »
Hi Keith! Congratulations! This is a wonderful model! Do you have the plans for it? IŽd like to have a model with me when going to a trip....

Thanks a lot!

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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 05:49:28 AM »
Nice I wish now that perhaps I should have attempted to brake my fuse in two pieces too. it makes for a much more compact carrying case but the complexity of mt plane would have gone up so much. Make a box for it. I will have so much spare room in my box that i can fit the flight box inside it in the spear empty places charger PC props.
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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 06:50:42 AM »
Hi Keith! Congratulations! This is a wonderful model! Do you have the plans for it? IŽd like to have a model with me when going to a trip....

Thanks a lot!

Rodrigo Mansano
Brazil

Hi Rodrigo,
I did make a basic plan, and then sort of ......just built it! I will make a plan soon in pdf format and then I'll post it on the forum. Thanks for the nice comments.

Dorin commented that he should have made his fuse in 2 pieces. This is a good idea, because then the length of the box is just a little more than one of the wing panels. If you see how small the box is for the Yatsenko models, then you can understand why the fuselage must be split.

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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 09:56:36 AM »
I'll tell you a secret.....I'm a stinky motor fan! LL~  But this is one very slick plane you got here....and a real beauty as well.  Congrats. H^^
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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 10:50:00 AM »
I'll tell you a secret.....I'm a stinky motor fan! LL~  But this is one very slick plane you got here....and a real beauty as well.  Congrats. H^^

Thanks. I still enjoy stinky engines myself.......especially diesels! With some hardwood bearers in the nose and ply doublers, this model will work fine with the smelly stuff!

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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 01:30:59 PM »
Keith,(you make some really nice planes by the way) what would be the equivalent I.C. motor for you plane.
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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 02:09:15 PM »
I would love to get ahold of the plan for this one......unfortunately I would convert to stinky power!  Sorry bout that. n~ H^^
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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 04:54:05 PM »
Me too! IŽd like to have the plans!!!

Thanks a lot Keith!!!

Rodrigo

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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 05:13:46 PM »
Good looking bird Keith, and suitcase sized too.  E-power assures you won't get oil on your knickers while its packed up, but I's sure it will fly great with "stinky power" too!
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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 08:52:14 PM »
Yes, Keith ...
nice packaging job.
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Re: My new take-apart electric profile
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 01:00:11 AM »
Thanks again for all the nice comments. It's really a .40 size stunter, and for stinky power (you've started something here!!) you can use any of the lightweight 40's like the FP, Brodak 40 etc. Up at our altitude the OS LA 40 would not work well, but if you like the LA's then the 46 would work. The wing area is about 570 sq.inches and the span is 50.5 inches. I cut the foam cores the same length and just made the inner wingtip thicker.

The 2820 motor runs very well and uses just around 1600 mAh for a 5 minute flight up here at high altitude. Down at sea level, it takes 1800 mAh, so the 2200 4-cell pack is fine.....and light at around 230 grams. This is running in governor mode, so the current usage is quite economical.

I will have to produce the plans now...........thanks for the pressure!! In the meantime, here below is a 3-view at 1/10 scale. I used to draw my plans on Turbo Cad, but then I started using Corel Draw so that I can export to PDF files. These days with large format printing, it's a lot easier than before, to get plans printed full size. Since last year, I've been using Inkscape and it's an open source program that also uses vector graphics. This works great, and can even import a PDF plan that you can work on and modify.

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