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Offline Will Hubin

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Igor Burger’s timer is now available to U.S. flyers
« on: December 15, 2007, 08:01:23 AM »
     Igor Burger has touted the simplicity and low cost of his timer, and rightly so. It is a marvel of compact, low-cost, lightweight design. However, he cannot cost-effectively provide it for U.S. flyers from the Slovak Republic where he lives—but he has made available, through the Internet, the binary code for his microcontroller and visual instructions for making the soldering connections to the 3-pin connector (four of the eight pins are clipped off, the remaining four pins are bent around and soldered to the 3-pin connector).
     The timer can be programmed by switching off the power lead after about one second. The next time the timer is turned on, the pulse width gradually increases from the “off” throttle setting; when the RPM or power reaches the desired level, the power must be switched off and this power level is stored in non-volatile memory. The next time the timer is switched on, it must be left on for as long as the desired flight time. From then on, until re-programmed, the timer will use these power and flight time parameters. Igor has also noted that one can use the Jeti Spin programming box.
     I have built a couple of these timers, and they perform as promised. For example, I programmed one for a pulse width of about 1.32 milliseconds and a flight time of five and a half minutes. Looking at the output on an oscilloscope, the pulse width varied between about 1.32 and 1.35 milliseconds at a frequency of 76 Hz (higher than the nominal value of 50 Hz) and then went to an off throttle setting of 0.90 milliseconds after the programmed flight time.
     The microcontroller and connector cost $2.31 plus postage/handling charges, in single quantities. I can provide a programmed microcontroller and the connector for $4, postpaid in the U.S.—if you want to solder it together, following Igor’s instructions. Alternately, I have a printed circuit board that allows me to make the connections in a more conventional manner. I am making this available to U.S. flyers for $10 postpaid. I’ll pre-program it for the power/RPM and the flight time, if you wish. (I still prefer my own timer for most applications, but this timer works as advertised and is certainly the low-cost champ. It also weighs less than 0.2 ounce!)
     The following picture shows a timer constructed using Igor’s method, the printed circuit board version, and (for size comparison) a dime.
             Will Hubin, 719 Cuyahoga St., Kent, OH 44240. whubin@kent.edu



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Re: Igor Burger’s timer is now available to U.S. flyers
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 04:12:53 PM »
Will,

I fly Electric Control Line Speed  Here is what I'm trying to accomplish.: The motor is an Aveox BDC wit the Halls unconnected.  My ECU is a Castle 80A

Start at switch closure or button push.

Motor ramps up to 100% over about two seconds

Motor runs at 100% (max battery input) for 36-38 seconds

Motor stops.

At present one of my ships (present AMA Class B Open record holder) is set up with a Zigas timer and BEC.  There are two other ships now being put together.  Can your timer control a Castle 80A?  Is a BEC input required- the ECU cannot provide this at the 18-20 cell input (one other ship, a Class A, is seven cells) I am using.

Please advise.

Will Stewart
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Re: Igor Burger’s timer is now available to U.S. flyers
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 04:26:20 PM »
Yes that timer needs 5V power supply on red line. But its consumption is very low and you can make very simple unit making 5V from one 7805 chip directly from power battery. Or even one resistor on 5V zener diode will work as well.

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Re: Igor Burger’s timer is now available to U.S. flyers
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2007, 02:25:40 PM »
Yes, I can supply a 7805 or a zener/resistor combination, so you can power the timer from the battery. I measure the current as about 0.8 mA.


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Updated software
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2007, 02:27:56 PM »
Igor has kindly provided updated software, with two important improvements: 1. There is now a 30 second delay after the button is pushed (to enable the flyer to get to the circle in a contest environment) and 2. the pulse width is now very stable during the flight time (within a few microseconds, anyway).

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Re: Igor Burger’s timer is now available to U.S. flyers
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 11:12:35 PM »
I've been using an Igor Burger timer obtained from Will Hubin on an electric foamy Baby Ringmaster with good results.  Initially, the flight time was too long, and the plane seemed a tad too fast.  I corrected that with the help of Will's "poor man's oscilloscope" or the PM-1 (as he calls it), a kitchen timer, and carefully following the programming instructions. I had no problems reprogramming the IB timer.  The plane now starts off at 91% power and is set for 2 minutes of powered flight.

Another thing I did was to use a kitchen timer clipped onto my belt to alert me 10 seconds before of power cutoff, letting me be ready for landing.  This setup works well for me.
 


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