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Electric Stunt => Gettin all AMP'ed up! => Topic started by: Randy Powell on February 24, 2013, 12:45:25 PM

Title: ESC comparisons
Post by: Randy Powell on February 24, 2013, 12:45:25 PM

OK, here's where I show my complete ignorance of this stuff. I have read that the Castle Creations Phoenix ICE2 HV60 is a replacement for the old Phoenix 60 ESC. What's the difference? I've read the specs, but I don't really understand the difference.

OK, I'm ready to be educated and informed.

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Tim Wescott on February 24, 2013, 12:55:40 PM

Just looking at the specifications, the new one will withstand twice the voltage.  Hopefully it has better data logging.

And it definitely has a nicer looking heat sink.

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Robert-Jan on February 24, 2013, 01:25:15 PM

no BEC ?

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Dean Pappas on February 24, 2013, 01:32:34 PM

Hi Randy,
The "HV" series are intended for higher voltage systems like 8S ~ 12S batteries. They have opto-isolated inputs and no BEC.
I don't think you want one for Stunt.

Regards,
  Dean P.

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on February 24, 2013, 05:52:52 PM

Dean is correct, these types of ESCs are intended for very large scale R/C plane where they have several batteries tied in series.  The reason they don't have a BEC is because for safety they put the receiver and servos on a separate battery, with a battery backup system on the primary battery, at least that was how I did it back in the day.  I really can't see any application for these ESCs in control line. 
Andy

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Randy Powell on February 25, 2013, 09:17:50 AM

Thanks, guys. I suspect I'll just go with the ICE75 but am still scanning around. I had a Phoenix 60, but it turned out to be defective and they are no longer available (apparently).

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Dean Pappas on February 25, 2013, 09:56:07 AM

There is a whole new series coming to replace the Phoenixes.
Dean P.

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Randy Powell on February 25, 2013, 12:51:45 PM

That would be nice. I'm still learning all this stuff. Guess I should have paid more attention in electronics classes.   LL~

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Tim Wescott on February 25, 2013, 01:17:27 PM

Just remember the basics Randy:  Electronic components are made of smoke which can, through various expensive processes, be made into solid matter.  This smoke is packed inside of little plastic packages, which are then soldered to a board.

If you let the smoke out, things don't work any more.

What else do you need to know?

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Randy Powell on February 25, 2013, 02:49:40 PM

Gee, thanks, Tim.

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Mark Scarborough on February 25, 2013, 03:32:47 PM

Quote from: Tim Wescott on February 25, 2013, 01:17:27 PM

Just remember the basics Randy:  Electronic components are made of smoke which can, through various expensive processes, be made into solid matter.  This smoke is packed inside of little plastic packages, which are then soldered to a board.

If you let the smoke out, things don't work any more.

What else do you need to know?

He probably wants to know how to keep that expensive smoke catpured inside the plastic thingies,, duh!!

Title: Re: ESC comparisons
Post by: Bob Hudak on February 25, 2013, 07:15:12 PM

Fire is a good troubleshooting tool And smoke is a visible indicator of trouble.