Author Topic: Electrics sweep team trials (Read 3548 times)

jose modesto · « **on:** September 01, 2013, 02:39:09 PM »

Electric power ships placed 1-2 and 3rd at the US Team trials.
Congrats to ORESTES,Kenny Stevens and Howard Rush
Jose Modesto

John Cralley · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2013, 04:01:21 PM »

Although I am an electric fan (no pun intended

), I feel that I should point out that 4th and 5th places were within about 12 points of third and both were IC models (2074.48 for 3rd and 2062.26 for 5th place). This was a very close finish (for 3rd member of the team) and one maneuver could easily have made all the difference.

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2013, 04:51:58 PM »

Jose,We missed ya,Hope the back gets better.Orestes and that Shark were on fire

f~Trax

Keith Renecle · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2013, 11:58:01 PM »

Electric power sure did very well at the team trials. It would be nice to know what systems each one of the top 3 models were using......motor, prop, timer, esc etc. The prop on Orestes' Shark look interesting and I like that way he covered up the hole that the Retro usually sticks out of.

Keith R

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #4 on:** September 02, 2013, 08:16:20 AM »

Quote from: Keith Renecle on September 01, 2013, 11:58:01 PM

Electric power sure did very well at the team trials. It would be nice to know what systems each one of the top 3 models were using......motor, prop, timer, esc etc. The prop on Orestes' Shark look interesting and I like that way he covered up the hole that the Retro usually sticks out of.

Keith R

I was just going to ask for the same information on our e tam members set up!

jose modesto · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2013, 06:02:39 AM »

Jeff T. Did you see Orestes prop.The props are from the quad copters,just like the one's you showed me at the NATS.
Health is getting better.I'm doing some water therapy in the caribian as replacement for the Team Trials.
Orestes set up
Motor: E-Flite 32
Controller:castle ice lite 50
Timer:Hubin FM9
Disconnect switch:maxx product
Batteries:TP 5S 2700
Prop: the props are carbon fiber 13x6.5 matching set one pusher one tractor.
Jeff T can you post a source for these.
These props are a great way to test a pusher and a tractor setnups.
Jose Modesto

Howard Rush · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2013, 07:18:41 AM »

My setup: Plettenberg 20-16, Castle ICE-Lite 75 (settings posted here somewhere), Hubin FM-9 timer, Thunder Power G8 2700 mAh, 5-cell batteries with more C's than I need (45 and 70), APC 13-4.5 prop buzzed off to about 12.7.

kenny stevens · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2013, 10:48:55 AM »

My setup is plett. 25-14, light ice 50, hobby king 6s 2200 mah battery, old apc 13/4.5 pusher prop,Hubbin fm-9 timer. The quad copter props come from hobby king

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2013, 11:44:38 AM »

Some IC guy needs to experiment with using governors on slime powered engines, in self-defense if nothing else.

Keith's timer may even be able to work off of the pulse from a hall-effect switch, if it'll pay attention to voltage swings as low as 5V and feedback as slow as once per revolution.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2013, 12:35:11 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on September 03, 2013, 11:44:38 AM

Some IC guy needs to experiment with using governors on slime powered engines, in self-defense if nothing else.

Keith's timer may even be able to work off of the pulse from a hall-effect switch, if it'll pay attention to voltage swings as low as 5V and feedback as slow as once per revolution.

I think it's called using a tuned pipe.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2013, 01:05:29 PM »

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on September 03, 2013, 12:35:11 PM

I think it's called using a tuned pipe.

Bingo Crist.

Derek

Derek Barry · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2013, 01:08:44 PM »

I talked to Orestes quite a bit before, during, and after the contest. I was very happy to see him win and he said that he really likes the electric. Having flown one of the Sharks with the stock motor I assume that electric is a big improvement. Great, just what Orestes needed, a better plane.

Congrats to the Team, I hear the food is good in Poland. Have fun!

Derek

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2013, 01:22:36 PM »

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on September 03, 2013, 12:35:11 PM

I think it's called using a tuned pipe.

Where does Igor's accelerometer thingie plug into a tuned pipe?

Derek Barry · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2013, 01:34:06 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on September 03, 2013, 01:22:36 PM

Where does Igor's accelerometer thingie plug into a tuned pipe?

I would love to have this discussion with you Tim but this is not the place.

Derek

Dean Pappas · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2013, 02:37:31 PM »

So true! Though I appreciate the kind stuff said about piped setups.

Dean P.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2013, 04:33:30 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on September 03, 2013, 01:22:36 PM

Where does Igor's accelerometer thingie plug into a tuned pipe?

In your previous post you only mentioned governors.

Accelerometers in slimers whould need a servo and an R/C carb and there in lies the problem. Carbs don't react fast enough. Maybe if the IC guys went to fuel injection that might help. Maybe the servo could slide the pipe in or out depending on what the accelerometer says? You could be on to something.

Brett Buck · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2013, 04:35:09 PM »

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on September 03, 2013, 04:33:30 PM

In your previous post you only mentioned governors.

Accelerometers in slimers whould need a servo and an R/C carb and there in lies the problem. Carbs don't react fast enough. Maybe if the IC guys went to fuel injection that might help. Maybe the servo could slide the pipe in or out depending on what the accelerometer says? You could be on to something.

Exhaust Throttle.

Brett

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:33:21 PM »

Quote from: Brett Buck on September 03, 2013, 04:35:09 PM

Exhaust Throttle.

Brett

Whoa, great idea. Still need that pesky servo, no?

RC Storick · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2013, 05:38:04 PM »

Quote from: jose modesto on September 03, 2013, 06:02:39 AM

Jeff T. Did you see Orestes prop.The props are from the quad copters,just like the one's you showed me at the NATS.
Health is getting better.I'm doing some water therapy in the caribian as replacement for the Team Trials.
Orestes set up
Motor: E-Flite 32
Controller:castle ice lite 50
Timer:Hubin FM9
Disconnect switch:maxx product
Batteries:TP 5S 2700
Prop: the props are carbon fiber 13x6.5 matching set one pusher one tractor.
Jeff T can you post a source for these.
These props are a great way to test a pusher and a tractor setnups.
Jose Modesto

I have bought many

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111149511116?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140740776625?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

best part is the price

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2013, 07:10:51 PM »

Quote from: jose modesto on September 03, 2013, 06:02:39 AM

Jeff T. Did you see Orestes prop.The props are from the quad copters,just like the one's you showed me at the NATS.
Health is getting better.I'm doing some water therapy in the caribian as replacement for the Team Trials.
Orestes set up
Motor: E-Flite 32
Controller:castle ice lite 50
Timer:Hubin FM9
Disconnect switch:maxx product
Batteries:TP 5S 2700
Prop: the props are carbon fiber 13x6.5 matching set one pusher one tractor.
Jeff T can you post a source for these.
These props are a great way to test a pusher and a tractor setnups.
Jose Modesto

Jose,The Ebay vendor I purchased mine from on Ebay is: Happychoice2009.They have carbon fiber everything.Props,Spinners,Landing gear,Flat sheets,tubing.I still have'nt figured out how to copy a link so you just have to go on Ebay and find them.I have some of the 13x6.5's on the way and I just got my 11x5's.Trax

jose modesto · « **Reply #20 on:** September 03, 2013, 07:11:49 PM »

Robert thanks. Have you found the 13x6.5 carbon fiber matching set??
Jose Modesto

David Hoover · « **Reply #21 on:** September 03, 2013, 07:27:35 PM »

Happychoice 2009

http://www.ebay.com/sch/happychoice2009/m.html?item=221268979966&pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item3384a8b0fe&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

A real treasure trove of stuff. Sort of like the guys on 'American Pickers' finding a barn full of old oil company signs.

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #22 on:** September 03, 2013, 08:37:02 PM »

David,Thanx for posting the link.You can click on any item and scroll down and on the left is the "Golden Menu of Goodies".Trax

Howard Rush · « **Reply #23 on:** September 03, 2013, 10:56:25 PM »

Thanks for the links. Robert mentioned them to us at the contest.

Keith Renecle · « **Reply #24 on:** September 04, 2013, 12:00:42 AM »

Hi All, Thanks for posting the equipment setups, and good luck to the team for Poland.

Keith R

RC Storick · « **Reply #25 on:** September 04, 2013, 12:25:09 AM »

Quote from: jose modesto on September 03, 2013, 07:11:49 PM

Robert thanks. Have you found the 13x6.5 carbon fiber matching set??
Jose Modesto

http://www.ebay.com/itm/13X6-5-Real-Carbon-Fiber-Clockwise-counterclockwise-propeller-1365R-1365-prop/130620427421?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D1043226633640792262%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D130620427421%26#ht_2414wt_927

Jeff Traxler · « **Reply #26 on:** September 04, 2013, 12:49:50 AM »

Hey Spark,Happychoice2009 has those 13x6.5s for $19.99 shipped free.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #27 on:** September 04, 2013, 01:26:32 AM »

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on September 03, 2013, 04:33:30 PM

In your previous post you only mentioned governors.

Accelerometers in slimers whould need a servo and an R/C carb and there in lies the problem. Carbs don't react fast enough. Maybe if the IC guys went to fuel injection that might help. Maybe the servo could slide the pipe in or out depending on what the accelerometer says? You could be on to something.

My accelerometer timer almost identically copy function of pipe on the 2C motor, so there no need to doble the function :- ))))

Look, my settings are:

"Target throttle" ... this is something like pipe length
"sensitivity" ... something like ventury size - means how much it jump on when nose up
"max and min" ... it si like baffles configuration in pipe

even som people with too strong motors found the same like guys with large engines, and that is that they do not want acceleration, only braking

the real advantage is, that you can easily specify parameters and you can easily repeat them regarding conditions :- )))